Problems with No5 Marrickville bookings

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Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy

If you don't like the thread, then don't read it 555

All I'm saying is, this should not be complicated. It should not matter who the girl likes. But these girls complicate it by getting their feelings involved

There should not be any feelings here. It is a business. We just pay, f*ck then leave. These girls ain't my GF/wife. These are hookers were talkng about. It should be as easy as booking, arriving. Then wham, baam, thank you maam

You think people care if Apple staff like you when they sell you the new iPhones. Its Business

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ahahahahaha it sounds like u got more feelings invested into this than the girl who simply said "yea nope" not seeing him baam wham done wait for my next booking LOL

This thread got started on 31 Jan with ur alias account and almost a month later u still cant get over it

U wanna use ur apple example? -- its like a poorly dressed bad hygiene person walks into an apple store

they wont refuse to sell u the iphone but u might be wondering around the shop for a long long time and go hmmmm why are people avoiding me and no one wants to come serve me?

Or oh that guy or that chick seems hot let me go chat them up and have them explain to me the specs of the iphone.... they (APPLE) WILL NOT refuse to sell u an iphone but even the working staff have the right to walk away or pretend they dont see u cos they dont wont to serve u

same goes for an arrogant prick whos condescending, arrogant and belittling.... they might be decked out in designer brands and hold platinum cards but doesnt mean all staff will want to serve them

again its the staffs choice to say sorry im helping this customer let me get someone else to help you - APPLE is NOT refusing to sell u the iphone but just gotta wait around until another staff is willing to serve u

U get the point? Its ur money so walk with ur wallet be that the shop or the girl they dont want ur business then move on and pick or go somewhere else

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Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy

If you don't like the thread, then don't read it 555

All I'm saying is, this should not be complicated. It should not matter who the girl likes. But these girls complicate it by getting their feelings involved

There should not be any feelings here. It is a business. We just pay, f*ck then leave. These girls ain't my GF/wife. These are hookers were talkng about. It should be as easy as booking, arriving. Then wham, baam, thank you maam

You think people care if Apple staff like you when they sell you the new iPhones. Its Business

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http://www.aus99forum.com/showthread...=1#post3336211

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Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy

You guys got cancelled on as well I see.

I thought it was just me getting singled out, getting played and cancelled on by these shops & girls

I should stop being Menace. I'll just take it on the chin and move on. And just see my regulars who will see me and won't cancel

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Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy

I did self reflect. I honestly don't know. If I knew, I would not be ranting on here. I'm never rough and always ask the girl for permission for everything. All I can think of is maybe racial or a size thing as someone mentioned before. As these beautiful Asian girls are all very tiny and petite. And maybe I made her sore after by accident because of the size difference.

I wish the shops and the girls would tell the reason why. As first time I seen the girl, she seems like everything is going well, she's happy. Even at the end, says hope to see you again next time with a big hug & kiss. Then 2nd time I try to book her, BOOM, I get hit with a "she cancelled" text.

I don't know if its "Asian culture" where the girl doesn't want to say to my face if theres a problem. Then just decides not to see me anymore behind my back. As a Westerner, I just prefer if I get told directly to my face if theres a problem.

At least I know if its a problem I can't do anyhing about, like size or race.
Or if its something I can fix and work on.

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Mate, you were so close, but you keep falling back into these bad habits of lashing out (at the girls, the shops, and even people here).

So let's get down to the reason: you don't know why you got cancelled on.
The point is, you'll never know the reason.
Like I've said, I've been cancelled on too. Most of the time I got a reason ('she's sick', 'she cancelled for the whole day', etc), other times no reason, just that my booking was cancelled.
Like I've said, some of the girls have told me the reasons too (they were sick, life things happened, etc). Others haven't or just basics (I only tend to ask if they're alright, especially if they cancelled before because they were sick). And some I never ended up seeing.

For the ones who have shared, I'm very appreciative they trusted me.
The shops have told me someone cancelled the whole day, and I can see she's not on the roster anymore.
I've seen quite a few comments here about how WLs have told them about horrible customers they've had.
For the ones who haven't told me anything, I totally understand, knowing there are scumbags out there.

And you know what - it could also be that at any point, someone could be lying or not telling the whole truth.
Which makes sense, right? These WLs can be put in very vulnerable positions - they can be seriously hurt.
So I don't begrudge them anything if they don't tell me anything, or don't want to see me - they are trying to protect themselves.
And the same for if they have customers they don't want to see again.

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Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy

All I'm saying is, this should not be complicated. It should not matter who the girl likes. But these girls complicate it by getting their feelings involved

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You're right, it's not at all complicated: the girls get to see whoever they want. That's the business. That's their right.
If they lose money, that's their right.
It's not about whether they 'like' someone. It's whether or not they'll get hurt. Whether because the guy's dick is too big, or he's rough, or she thinks he might be rough, or because ...she doesn't like the way he dresses?
They are service providers, and they have the right to refuse service. Why are you trying to get around their rights?
Yes, they are probably losing out on money. But that's their choice.

Why do you keep saying they should be forced to see customers when they don't want to? That's their right.
Why do you keep saying that they have poor work ethic and the shops should fire them, when it seems they are not seeing certain customers to protect themselves, and the shops haven't fired them, so they're fine with it anyway? Why do you get to dictate what happens to them, when it seems everyone else is fine with them exercising their freedoms and rights?
Why do you keep disrespecting these 'beautiful and exotic women' constantly?

It seems you keep getting your feelings involved?
You know, there was a post late last year about a guy who fell in love with a WL. To the point he came here asking for advice, because the WL went out of her way to tell him directly, that she didn't want to see him anymore or for him to visit the shop, because she could tell how he felt.
He told the forum this, and asked what he should do.
For the ones who took it seriously (because there's the obvious chance it was a troll/fake post), they told him, she already told him what to do: leave her the fuck alone. She said it as nicely as possible, but he couldn't get it in his head that he should leave her alone.
Imagine if he kept going to that shop to try and see her. The stress she would be put under. The possibility of him actually physically lashing out at the shop staff, the girl herself, and others there. What if he had brought a weapon?
That's the possible reality some of these people have to deal with.
Because there are actual psychos out there.
Sure, it could just be 'Asian culture' as you say (don't know why you would bring race into this - pretty sure avoidance of unpleasant things is universal), but it could also be that a girl doesn't want to be physically attacked by some unhinged lunatic.

If a WL - hell if anyone did anything in their power to stop something like that happening to them, I wouldn't begrudge them at all if they ghosted, or lied, or changed names or locations.

But do you see where you kind of fit into all this?
You're the one attacking the girls and the shops.
That's just not on.

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Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy

Its not about me though...
Were just talking about some Hooker here working at a FS shop
Every customer the girl refuses and cancels is a loss of income for the shop. Its all about cash flow for these businesses. They don't give a shit if a girl likes a customer or not. They just want the girl to work and make money for them.
From the business/shop's point of view, its a loss of income. For the girl its personal. But the shop don't give a shit. Its business for them. For me, I don't give a shit if the girl likes me either. I'm just there to pay, f*ck then leave. Its not supposed to be personal. Its Business. This IS Business

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You don't know why they cancelled on you.
Sure, you've lost out on time and petrol, but not money, as they can refuse anyone's service.
Everyone else here has said they've also had cancellations. They either stop going, or keep going. Also their choice.
If you have a complaint about the shop, any shop: take it up with them. Report them to the ACCC or whatever. That's a business matter. Maybe make an itemised list on toll charges and petrol so they can check it against an invoice. Who knows - you might have a case for partial reimbursement for travel?
But everyone else here has said their piece, just as you have.
Everyone has made their choice about the shop on whether they'll ever go back or not.
No need to bring it up ever again.
Make your choice: either keep going, or never give them your business again. We don't need to know. Let your money do the talking.

When it comes to the girls - you keep saying you 'have the utmost respect' for them, but also have no issues denigrating them, making fun and light of them suffering mentally and physically, and also tend to insinuate they've provided services to you that they have been listed as not providing at all (and that others have also vouched that they don't provide).
That sounds personal.
I don't know why you have been targeting specific girls.
Whether they have been the ones to cancel on you, whether you've actually ever met them or not, or you pick them at random.
None of that really matters: just fucking stop. Stop mentioning them. Stop targeting them.
If you have seen them, and want to share an AR... don't. The ones you have written seem to be the summaries/amalgamations of all other ARs of them. You add nothing new or updated or any details.
If you have seen them, just keep it to yourself. Have yourself a hidden gem. It's okay, we understand.
No need to PM others either, as it seems the information you have is already on the open forum.
Just don't go spreading lies and hate on your little personal vendetta, when you should just move on and walk away.
Because you could be responsible (directly or indirectly) for getting people actually hurt.
And that'd be fucked up.

There really is no need for you to comment.
You make the same points over and over again.
Whether people agree or disagree with you, you still reiterate the same things, so there's no need for you to comment.
You should just move on.
Other things you say are either nonsense, self-contradictory, or things other people have already said, so there's no need for you to comment.
You should just move on.
If you do get cancelled on again, or never go back to a certain shop, that's between you and the shop, so there's no need for you to comment.
You've said it's business, so treat it as business.
You should just move on.

Do a little bit more self-reflecting, as you've said you've done.
Realise you are the menace.
So stop, and just move on.

That's a good reply and he needs to read and digest every word of it. But I suspect he's too far gone the way he keeps it up. Have to wonder how he treats all the women in his life, not just WLs.

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Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy

If you don't like the thread, then don't read it 555

All I'm saying is, this should not be complicated. It should not matter who the girl likes. But these girls complicate it by getting their feelings involved

There should not be any feelings here. It is a business. We just pay, f*ck then leave. These girls ain't my GF/wife. These are hookers were talkng about. It should be as easy as booking, arriving. Then wham, baam, thank you maam

You think people care if Apple staff like you when they sell you the new iPhones. Its Business

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Gee so much respect for these girls. And you wonder why they don't wanna see you.

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Originally Posted by ricki

It's like an Indian guy booking a No Indian WL and then ranting about how the girl rejected him because he was Indian. He keeps saying it's business and the goes and cry about how some Hooker working at FS shop as he mentioned refused to see him.

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Like if you get rejected to get FS even with money that's probably mean there something wrong about you.
You have to think why she accept everyone and you get rejected.

So if you can't even hook with WL what about your life outside this fantasy punting world?
I believe some people complain about things like this to just feel bteer.
If you get rejected don't embarrass yourself here on the forum and cry no one give a fuck about you here it's fucking sex forum.

Sometimes I visit random girls with no booking treat them will with respect and I get very good service and one of them give me CIM with no extra:).
when I was shitty guy with no manners they don't even let me kiss lol.

So if you get rejected it's because you are not good don't blame the girl just work on your self.
Be gentleman be respected be nice and you won't get rejected.

I've seen some Indian visit some shops and seriously they look like shit I feel disgusted when I see them.

Iam not talking about you mate talking in general about the guys crying about rejected.

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Originally Posted by Thedogboy

Like if you get rejected to get FS even with money that's probably mean there something wrong about you.
You have to think why she accept everyone and you get rejected.

So if you can't even hook with WL what about your life outside this fantasy punting world?
I believe some people complain about things like this to just feel bteer.
If you get rejected don't embarrass yourself here on the forum and cry no one give a fuck about you here it's fucking sex forum.

Sometimes I visit random girls with no booking treat them will with respect and I get very good service and one of them give me CIM with no extra:).
when I was shitty guy with no manners they don't even let me kiss lol.

So if you get rejected it's because you are not good don't blame the girl just work on your self.
Be gentleman be respected be nice and you won't get rejected.

I've seen some Indian visit some shops and seriously they look like shit I feel disgusted when I see them.

Iam not talking about you mate talking in general about the guys crying about rejected.

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Yup that's the thing about these type of people. One rejection and they feel like the whole world has turned against them. Like c'mon we ain't no saint we are paying to have sex if the ladies don't like you choose a different one and if none of the ladies in that shop like you choose another shop that's supposed to be the beauty of it when you are paying.

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Originally Posted by Jack-Jack

so now ur resorting to shaming her and name calling with derogatory terms like a hooker?

True as that may be but dont sound like ur a gentleman or respectful customer if ur gonna turn around and go calling her a hooker cos she wont see "you" ...

and again whether its the loss of income for girl or shop - thats up to them ...

as many others have pointed out above - they do give a shit thats why they have the cameras and girls can see the waiting room? -- or you are so blinded by the hate and spite you have forgotten or missed the memo?

judgin from this thread u started and ur posts that go on and on it certainly does seem like it is about u... LOL

as for ur comment on pay fuck leave -- doesnt seem like ur able to just leave and let this go....

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Lets take personal things out of this and talk purely numbers.

It may not seem like much if you isolate me as a single customer being cancelled on. 1 customer may not seem like much

But say in a week, a girl may cancel on 5 potential customers as she is picky and may not like all of her customers.
Thats 5 × $300 = $1500 loss for the shop in a week

In a year, thats $78,000 gross income loss for the shop

If say, they have 5 girls doing this, thats $390,000 gross income loss for the shop in a year

The 2 parties that loses out when a girl does this is the customer and the shop/business. You have an unhappy customer and a shop losing money.
Thats ALOT of money being lost for the shop/business just because of a girls ego with cancelling on customers. If I was the owner I would be pissed. Thats why I urge shops to take more control over their girls and encourage them to be more "liberal" and open-minded when cancelling bookings just because they don't "like" to see a customer.

“Thats 5 × $300 = $1500 loss for the shop in a week”

The shop doesn’t lose that amount. Around 60% goes to the lady. Your maths is way out.

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Originally Posted by Keeping Up

“Thats 5 × $300 = $1500 loss for the shop in a week”

The shop doesn’t lose that amount. Around 60% goes to the lady. Your maths is way out.

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If you read it properly, I wrote "gross" income. Not "net" income.

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Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy

Lets take personal things out of this and talk purely numbers.

It may not seem like much if you isolate me as a single customer being cancelled on. 1 customer may not seem like much

But say in a week, a girl may cancel on 5 potential customers as she is picky and may not like all of her customers.
Thats 5 × $300 = $1500 loss for the shop in a week

In a year, thats $78,000 gross income loss for the shop

If say, they have 5 girls doing this, thats $390,000 gross income loss for the shop in a year

The 2 parties that loses out when a girl does this is the customer and the shop/business. You have an unhappy customer and a shop losing money.
Thats ALOT of money being lost for the shop/business just because of a girls ego with cancelling on customers. If I was the owner I would be pissed. Thats why I urge shops to take more control over their girls and encourage them to be more "liberal" and open-minded when cancelling bookings just because they don't "like" to see a customer.

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The assumption here just cause the girl "cancels" a booking, its a loss to the shop. I don't think that's the case, the girls pay the owners to use their shop Eg $300-$500 for the day or whatever agreement with the owner, the owners get a cut regardless if the girl see customers or not.
So if girls cancel or no one books to see them, its a lost for the girl. You often see Owners pushing you to see certain girls, its to help them make money aswell.

The girl will have another customer anyway. Its not like she will be sitting around doing nothing.

The shop won't lose a cent.

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Originally Posted by carmen farquis

The girl will have another customer anyway. Its not like she will be sitting around doing nothing.

The shop won't lose a cent.

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What are you talking about. If they have 2 customer bookings, they earn $600

If they cancel 1, they lose $300

Thats a loss by definition 555

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Originally Posted by 1inchguy

The assumption here just cause the girl "cancels" a booking, its a loss to the shop. I don't think that's the case, the girls pay the owners to use their shop Eg $300-$500 for the day or whatever agreement with the owner, the owners get a cut regardless if the girl see customers or not.
So if girls cancel or no one books to see them, its a lost for the girl. You often see Owners pushing you to see certain girls, its to help them make money aswell.

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Yes true. 99.9% of J girls are with an agency so realistically, it wouldn't make a difference if a customer cancels. Everyone gets paid at the end of the day.

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Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy

What are you talking about. If they have 2 customer bookings, they earn $600

If they cancel 1, they lose $300

Thats a loss by definition 555

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this is gonna be the last time i posted on this thread cause its gone too far and we already know where your mind set is
Anyway, just cause one cancels doesn't mean a lost, it was never gained?
Its more like a missed opportunity however as @carmen farquis mention, another opportunity "customer" would come around anyways..

If i found $50 on the street yesterday but not today. I'm not losing $50 today—I just didn’t get extra money again.

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Originally Posted by carmen farquis

The girl will have another customer anyway. Its not like she will be sitting around doing nothing.

The shop won't lose a cent.

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Exactly. He assume that the girl would sit out the time he vacated !

Unless it’s an outcall agency, a popular shop can fill the time of a popular girl quite easily, no money lost except the trouble he might have caused if she let him stay.

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Originally Posted by 1inchguy

The assumption here just cause the girl "cancels" a booking, its a loss to the shop. I don't think that's the case, the girls pay the owners to use their shop Eg $300-$500 for the day or whatever agreement with the owner, the owners get a cut regardless if the girl see customers or not.
So if girls cancel or no one books to see them, its a lost for the girl. You often see Owners pushing you to see certain girls, its to help them make money aswell.

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This is not how it works at all. The girls do not pay the shop $300/$500 to use a room. The shop only gets paid if the girl has customers and we take a split from that. So for expample a 60 min diamond booking is $300 the girl will usually take $220 and the shop will take $80. The reason girls get pushed is because they do good service or we think the customer will enjoy her. The girls that do so/so service are not getting pushed.

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Originally Posted by Niceguy11

Yes true. 99.9% of J girls are with an agency so realistically, it wouldn't make a difference if a customer cancels. Everyone gets paid at the end of the day.

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The agent only gets paid if the girl gets paid. If she has no customers for the day then the agent gets $0 from that girl

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Originally Posted by Abs90

The agent only gets paid if the girl gets paid. If she has no customers for the day then the agent gets $0 from that girl

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Thanks Abs90, I was told exactly the same by a manager / owner.

After reading this whole thread, I'm pretty sure the owners of ginza, n5m and other popular shops are doing just fine without that one customer being refused service out of the double digit number of men walking into that shop each day.

And those girls are doing fine without that one customer they have refused service to.

Yes the girl is charging for a service but like any business owner or contractor, if you have a customer who is pissing you off, being difficult demanding etc, you can always give them their money back and tell them to fuck off and go somewhere else.

Lmao I've been blacklisted by one WL for reasons only me and her know the real truth too but despite what she told management i just moved the fuck on and book other girls now as there is no point in arguing about it regardless of the truth or your expectations of being a paying customer.

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Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy

If you read it properly, I wrote "gross" income. Not "net" income.

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They are different income streams. Anyway if the girl has a modicum of self value and has her own no dickheads policy more strength to her. She’d be busy in any case even after cancelling any undesirables.