Keep us up to date with prices of ST/ST/BF's.Originally Posted by Elbortomorton
The problem with ThaiFriendly. Most the girls pics are heavily photoshopped and edited. Never know what will turn up at your Hotel
All good I don’t meet at my hotel just incase , always meet at a shopping centre or sumthing
Price last year in May when I was there looking at about $200 - $250 for 2 hour nuru that includes FS BBBJ and 2 shots
Fantastic really considering how much it costs here
Plus u get a spa with the lady.
I remember one lady done this amazing position during the nuru and it was so odd the only way I can explain it is a reverse sideways crab scissors 😅😂 unreal feeling
Punting in SE Asia is still good fun and good value.
You just have to lose that whole fucken stupid racist sexist "i am a foreign male and so i am God" bullshit attitude.
Even at the peak of when this attitude was Ok, you still got economy class sex, but these days it gets you "Indian Class" sex.
Damn the shitty Aussie dollar, makes SE Asia so much more expensive. There' must've been an explosion of Nuru shops in BKK. All along the sois on Sukhumvit, from Nana to Phrom Phong. Shame I couldn't try as I already had a girl with me the entire trip, but I got to check out the front of the shops when my mates went in and a glimpse of the girls waiting around.
I liked the look of some girls at Wonder Massage, Butterfly, one on Soi 22. Forgot the name on 22 but my mate tried the doctors chair.
What if I am a White, Caucasian guy with blonde hair and striking blue eyes.
Young and tall.
Fit
And looks like a Greek God.
Good advice for us newbies though.
Wonder massage was great 👍🏻 the girl I saw there told me for the next two hours I am ur girlfriend and oh yes she definitely delivered
Now, now don't be too hasty. Everywhere, that entitled attitude serves to:
- 1. Lower the standards of service
2. Decreases the time those lowered standards are delivered, aka LT becomes ST
3. Increases the status of the common punter who arrives with an easing going attitude
IME, anyway.
LT is non-existent now. Its all just ST's now
So, I just got back from my trip and thought I'd report back on my experience.
TL;DR: We actually have it pretty good here in Australia, overall, as far as quality of girls versus costs of services and services provided.
THAILAND
Go-Go Bars at Nana Plaza and Walking Street - Don't Bother:
I went to few of them and struck out trying to pick up the 10/10 girls. I was 0 for 3 for these girls and--while I'm no Henry Cavill--I don't think I'm too terrible looking. While I am in my forties, I'm super fit and take care of my body, and went in there with the friendliest of demeanors. (Some of the other tourists I saw in Thailand were straight up dickheads that acted like they owned the place. There was one particular group that was very punchable that I saw at the beginning of one night. At the end of the night, one of the dudes was drunk as hell by himself walking the streets of Pattaya--I guess his friends ditched him. His wasted ass was stumbling through the streets at 2am and with no one around was just throwing his money into the air. Fucking dumbass. I grabbed everything he let loose which was a decent amount--like 7000THB.) Still though, no luck with the really hot ones. The hot ones got me to buy them some lady drinks but when I asked how much a ST or LT would be they'd either say "Sorry, I'm on my period" or "Sorry, someone's already booked me for today. Come see me tomorrow at 10pm" or other excuses.
Avoid the Galaxy Club Russian Go-Go Bar completely on Walking Street. They had a couple of strippers on the stage that were 4/10, at best, and probably weighed about 100kg of fat. I'm the type of guy to not leave a venue straight away--just have one drink as a courtesy, then leave. I should've left this place though. Moby Dick on stage was shaking her ass at me for a tip but I wanted to vomit instead. When I didn't tip her, the mamasan scolded me like, "It's generally polite to give a tip when a girl asks for one". Yeah, I'll give a tip if I enjoy the service. Just so I don't get blacklisted, I gave her a small tip then asked to pay my bill. I didn't even get through half my beer before I left cos fuck that place.
Sunk Cost Fallacy and everything I didn't want to go home empty handed for any of my go-go bar experiences, so one night I ended up picking up a 7/10 MILF which cost me quite a bit (from memory I think it was 5000THB for ST, plus the lady drinks I bought her beforehand, and I think the bar fine was 2000THB). The sex was probably a 6 or 7/10. We had a bit of time to spare for the ST so I bought her dinner and she explained to me that she's a single mother trying to make money to take care of her son and parents. I took her to a nice seafood restaurant and she was very grateful. It's always nice eating food that a local would recommend, and the dishes she ordered were outstanding (and the total bill was only like 400THB, from memory)
Girl Bars in Pattaya - Give it a go
Like the go-go bars, the 10/10 girls are hard to pick up. One girl said she didn't know what I was talking about when I asked her about ST/LT after I bought her a few lady drinks. Another said she was on her period (I've heard that before), but also said "She's sad that I'll probably leave now to go find another girl". I think her hustle was just to get someone to buy her lady drinks all night so the bar makes money, without actually having to go home with the bloke. She was actually really fun to talk to though, so I didn't mind just chilling with her for a bit and playing some drinking games. She even bought me drinks when she'd lose the games. (And she lost a lot of the time.) After a while she whispered in my ear "I can't go home with you now, but come back at 2am when we close and I'll meet you at the end of the street". I don't know what her play was here. I stupidly got ridiculously wasted that night though, so when 2am came around I was stumbling around Soi 6 trying to remember which bar she worked at. I was seeing everything in double so decided to call it a night and headed back to my hotel. When I got there she messaged me that she was finished, but she was really really drunk. Shit, so was I so I asked her to meet me at my hotel, but she said she was too drunk to do anything. Honestly, so was I. I never would have been able to get it up.
The 6 or 7/10 girls on Soi 6 are super aggressive though and would straight up walk up to me and grab my cock, trying to get me to go to the bar. This happened dozens of times there, so picking up a 7/10 from these bars shouldn't be an issue. I did that a few times and paid 4000THB for ST with a 1000THB bar fine. Sex was completely safe--I wouldn't have it any other way in Thailand--which means CBJ, no DATY, no DFK and unlimited shots for two hours.
Honey 2 Massage - Avoid
This was honestly the biggest waste of my money in Thailand. This place got rave reviews so I had decent expectations of it. When I got there, the girls were mostly 4/10 or 5/10. Again, stupid Sunk Cost Fallacy I wanted to try the experience at least once so I picked the only girl in the S-Tier, who was a 6.5/10, at best. It cost 6000THB for a soapy massage (meh) plus one round for as above sex: CBJ, no DATY, no DFK. The worst part is this service isn't time-based, it's shot-based. So after I shot my load, she washed me up, we got dressed and that was that. No after sex chill and talk, after sex massage or any of that. Never again.
Thermae Cafe - If you're gonna do any punting in Thailand, this is a must do
I stupidly only visited this place on my last night in Thailand, and this should've been my go-to instead. Next time I'm in Thailand (and there will be a next time) for a punt, I'm not gonna fuck around with anything else and just go straight here if I want sex. This place is full of maybe 200 freelancers and is purely transactional. No bullshit of trying to chat them up with Lady drinks, etc. (Though, admittedly, chatting up some of the girls at the girl bars is kinda fun sometimes, even if there's no sex at the end.) Granted, most of the girls there are also 6/10, you will come across at least one or two 10/10s there. When you walk up to them, it's pretty much straight to business. After introducing themselves they'll just say "x THB for ST, and y THB for LT".
I picked up a flat out 10/10 (shit, she may have even been a 15/10 as far as looks go... She looked like a young Asian Kate Beckinsale) for 8000THB for LT (the whole night). This girl was smoking hot, but the same services applied for all Thai girls: CBJ, no DATY, no DFK--though in Round 2 when I was making her cum she was DFKing me while she was cumming. I grabbed her details on Line and I'll for sure see her again next time I'm in town.
JAPAN
I caught up with a couple of girls that used to be some of the more popular WLs at the Ginzas here in Sydney (I won't name names, just for their privacy). One of them now works at Ask Tokyo, which is a VIP escorting agency. Minimum cost is 200,000JPY for two hours, and that doesn't even include optional extras. Quite steep so I gave this a pass and just had a friendly "casual/off work" dinner with her instead. That place has an interesting service though. She explained that all clients are first interviewed and asked what kind of girl they like. If the business finds you acceptable, they'll select a girl for you, based on your preference and you go from there. Most girls there are around 300,000 JPY for two hours, plus extra options. (Again, I won't explain these to you here to protect the business and to protect the girls.) Kind of cool because it weeds out the dickhead clients who may mistreat the girls. I'm happy this girl works in such a shop now, seeing as she had a rough time in one of the cities here in Australia, so I'm glad she's being treated well now.
Tokyo Hentai Club
I visited the Shinjuku store twice while I was there. It was definitely expensive. Gaijin tax is real, but when in Rome... And I found the female receptionist to be quite rude. For my second visit, I was literally the only person in the shop. I was going through the girls on offer on the screen (there were dozens of girls there) and she kept trying to hurry me up. I was only there for maybe two minutes when she was like, "Have you chosen someone yet?" Me: "No, I'm still looking. You have so many cute girls!" A minute or two later she was like, "Sir, I'm giving you three more minutes. If you don't choose someone by then I'm going to have to ask you to leave." Dafuq? There was no one in the shop. I can understand if there was a line of people waiting behind me, but what the fuck was up with the rush when I'm literally the only customer there.
Then when it came time to pay (website says credit card payment is acceptable), I took out my CC and she was like, "Sir, we're only accepting cash at this time". Me: "But your website says you accept credit card, and I paid by credit card last time I was here". Her: "Oh. Well our machine is down. If you don't have cash now then please bring it with you when you come back for your booking"
The first girl I saw was hot as hell. I won't name her for anonymity, but she's one of the few girls that show her face on the website, and her pics on there are accurate (i.e. she's quite hot) though definitely have the advantage of professional makeup and lighting for the pics. I chose the filming with face, and CIMWS options for her. Though when I checked the footage, she definitely doesn't swallow... During CIM, she spits the load into the towel she's holding then lifts her head up afterwards to show that there's nothing in her mouth. Also, I chose a two hour session with her and at minimum, thirty minutes of those two hours were spent just talking and her trying to work out my personality and our chemistry. Not sure if this is a time-wasting strategy or is just customary with punts there (more on that in a sec). The service itself was a bit mediocre. Probably a 6/10. She wasn't receptive to DATY and her BBBJ was a bit too hard and toothy. Most of the Japanese girls at the Ginzas in Sydney provide far better services, but having her face filmed was a nice novelty. Round 2 was pretty much the same meh service as Round 1. This whole experience was expensive: 69,000 JPY to the shop, plus 80,000 JPY tip to the girl. (I won't explain the tip, but if you visit the place perhaps some of the girls you book will ask for this tip and the explanation behind it.)
Second girl I saw was cute as hell. I chose the film with face option, denma, take home panties (I wanted a souvenir and she autographed them, which was nice), and CIMWS for two hours. Like the first girl, at least the first thirty minutes was spent talking. She was a bit odd in that she simultaneously liked to be cuddled/hugged but sometimes didn't like you touching her at all. No DATY with this girl because she said she was ticklish. She came hard with the denma, but didn't let me go near her for about 10 minutes while she rested. She gave a very good BBBJ with lots of saliva and perfect suction. Onto the main event, she was wet and creamy as fuck which was nice, and she actually did swallow my load when I finished. I'd say the service itself was probably a 6.5 or maybe 7/10. We had less than ten minutes left and she didn't let me do a Round 2 because of a lack of time (I couldn't cum again from her BBBJ). Again, Japanese girls in Sydney for the most part provide much better services. And again, this experience was expensive: 68,000 JPY to the shop; 60,000 JPY tip to the girl.
Overall, I'd say we're lucky with the punting scene here in Sydney. Yes, it's more expensive than Thailand, but the girls here are generally hotter than the ones there and provide more services. The girls in Japan might be hotter (and that's a questionable 'might'... I've definitely punted with some really hot girls here), but the girls in Sydney provide better services at more competitive costs.
As always, YMMV and always treat the girls with respect.
Happy punting.
Edit: One super interesting (from a cultural perspective, and not necessarily a punting perspective) area I visited was the old red light district in Osaka called Tobita Shinchi. For a bit of background/context, I grew up in America and in my younger, dumber years, I was into some super shady shit. As such, I've been to a few ill-reputed areas in America. Is Tobita Shinchi as bad as an East St Louis, West Baltimore, or Washington Park in Chicago? Of course not. But Tobita Shinchi definitely had the same 'feel' to those areas. I haven't done any research at all of this place, so I could be completely wrong, but it felt about as 'hood' as I've ever experienced anywhere in Japan.
It had that feeling of despair that you can only experience in a hood. There were cops every 50m or so--though these cops looked like they were in their 60s and were quite small statured... No way they'd be able to catch a younger guy running away. Which leads me to believe that the real enforcers there are the yakuza which you don't openly see. Though I'm certain I did see a Sergeant or Lieutenant of the local gang slowly driving through in his really nice Landcruiser (completely out of place in that neighbourhood) wearing sunglasses (this was around 9pm, mind you), and looking around to make sure things are in order.
Anyway, lined along the streets of this area were dozens, perhaps hundreds, of little shops. At the shop entrance was always a mamasan yelling out and inviting customers in--as is typical for basically every store in Japan whether it be a restaurant or a clothing shop. These little shops were no different. And always sitting with the mamasan was a hot, younger girl (though these girls were certainly 'older' than those you find at shops like Ginza or even THC noted above... I'd say most of the girls were in the early-late thirties) smiling at you, batting her eyes, sometimes shaking her tits, or spreading her thighs. A lot of these girls were very hot: most were a 7/10 and I saw at least four or five that were easily 10/10.
Unfortunately, I was short on time that night so didn't bother checking out the services. No photos were allowed whatsoever so I couldn't take pics of the prices, but from memory the services cost 47,000 JPY for an hour--which is a much higher rate than the already expensive Tokyo Hentai Club I mentioned earlier. I've read that these places are officially tea houses or restaurants so they don't advertise any of the services provided. "What consenting adults do behind closed doors after enjoying tea together is up to them" is basically the attitude there. I've also read that there are no showers in these tea houses so you (and the girl) only get rubbed with an alcohol wipe if two consenting adults decide to share some love. I can only imagine how stank some of that pussy would smell at the end of the night if there are no showers available.
Considering this, and the high cost I didn't really consider having tea at one of these places. (But seeing the straight up smoke shows that some of these girls were made it tempting, for sure.)
If anyone goes to Osaka and partakes in these tea shops, please report back.
That is damn expensive in Tokyo, Hentai club cost ¥128,000 so over 1k Aussie!
Yep. As a comparison, I figure that girls at Ginza that look like the ones I booked at THC would probably be $330/hr. So, two hours at $660. Plus filming (if offered) at $200, so $880.
I always wonder how the hell those Japanese salaryman can afford to go to prostitutes with their shitty wage.
The cost of punting is above us here in Oz yet their salary is only a tiny fraction of ours.
This is why I don't want to punt in Japan again. It's a waste of money. I would rather just enjoy the country and use my money for something else such as food.
Last time in Tokyo I paid $450 in total and she was asking more for FS because it's not included by law. Some girls don't even offer FS depending on you.
Yeah, I hear ya.
Granted, punting in both Thailand and Japan were at the bottom of my lists of things to do there--I was in Thailand for an event, and seeing Japan and experiencing its food and culture for a second time (I was there in 2019) were my main objectives there. Still, I wanted to also experience what the punting cultures are like there.
Oh, I was definitely paying the Gaijin costs there. Tokyo Hentai Club only accepts foreign clients. I'm sure Japanese clients pay a bit less, but it would still be expensive there nonetheless. Ask any WL that comes here from Japan and they'll tell you the unit cost is higher in Japan, but they usually don't get as much business. (Likely due to these high costs.)
Thanks for sharing your experiences. I think what you highlighted is why I never bother to punt overseas. I've been to Japan for business, to Tokyo and Fukuoka. Being a Gaijin and the inconvenience of the whole ordeal just puts me right off. Just doing the normal things is stress free, enjoy the culture and food whilst you are there....
I agree, Sydney is just easier.
Yeah, maybe a massage or two after walking 15km+ day would be nice, but not having sex IMO.
Makes sense, that explains why they're still coming here to Sydney, considering they have to do more (FS, CIM, etc) for the same rate for foreigners. In total, they will end up with more money.
The sentiment towards foreigners is actually getting a lot worse, especially in Kyoto and Osaka. I'm surprised they still service foreigners lol. I guess money talks.
My suggestion in both these places is try looking for non proffesional girls. Specially in Thailand. If you have to find escorts or massage girls to drain your balls you can get this done in Sydney. Use Thai friendly or another site to find office worker who will meet you so your experience is different and you don’t have to watch the clock.
In Japan there are other things to try. The internationalsexguide.nl has useful information. Something g different would be Oppai bars where young girls will take turns to come and sit with you. You can kiss and play with their boobs. You get 45 min in total and usually 3 girls will come around where you spend 10-15 minutes with each. You don’t have to buy them drinks but can of you want to. If you like a girl you can ask her to stay and you skip the next girl . There is hand job or blow job as far as I understand. But you can go to soapies for those.
Not sure if I am allowed to post about other forums they can delete this if it conflicts with their policy.
TravelerX has written couple of posts with great info for Japan.
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I created a new user blog to make it easier to find my guides:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...966012Traveler X guides
Cheers and enjoy the trip. Give us you your reviews so we can all learn.
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I saw a Pornhub film once of a long bar n Thailand where a negro sat amongst bald fat farangs and had his cock sucked under the bar in full view by a sweet young thing while drinking beers. Is that the norm or just a porno beat-up?
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