Sugarbabes - Sydney, Melbourne and Gold Coast markets

[Rookiestones]

You will come across scammers and time wasters on Seeking, just as you do amongst the professional WL / ML class. Knowing how to avoid them is just one benefit of having a group of SDs sharing intel on scammers and we could easily do it on here.

The upside of Sugarbabes is that it is much harder to get sucked into a bait and switch.

Would you be willing to provide some guidance, tips or notes to identify the scammers Benny?

I'm browsing on seeking and boy there's some decent eye candy. Some are IG model types.

From your observations and experience, what percentage of the pictures are genuine and is actually the girl? Maybe per city basis perhaps ?

[Rookiestones]

I’ve had a number of PMs in the past week from members here asking for feedback on the kind of pricing that is in the Sydney market.

Guys shelling out $700 - $800 a meet. And often putting out 2-300 for a pre-meet.

My encouragement is that, if you are reading this and you are on SA talking to these girls, that you gently and politely push back on this. It’s complete bullshit that the girl next door (no matter how much make up and cosmetic surgery she has had) should think that she can charge the same for a meet as a European porn star does. I know this because I’ve fucked a European porn star when I was last there and they advertise widely.

$500 should be the upper range of what you are prepared to part with. And that should be for a very high quality experience. $500 should also be what you are prepared to pay for a one off - if she wants ongoing (there’s a lot less hassle for her) then I would be ratcheting that down to $400 PPM very quickly.

Anything more than that is just girls putting their hands out to take you for whatever they can. The more you keep handing those kind of numbers over, the more you distort the market for yourselves and your mates on here.

It’s hard to say no and keep your cash in your wallet. But it’s necessary to restore some order to the supply - demand equation.

Nice firm advice about the upper range. But which European porn star did you fucked? Lol did she give you the GFE or PSE? Just asking. Cheers

[Rookiestones]

Not sure why there is so much doubt about the value in the Sydney market.

I got asked on PM what the going rate is for Sugarbabes. My response, as always, is that there is none and don't let anyone quote a "going rate" to you.

Last night I enjoyed a lovely European lass from out Potts Point way. 24, slim, shaved, easygoing and a lot of fun for the grand high sum of $300 + ubereats dinner for four hours. Two rounds of sex and a lot of chill time in-between. She's on the regular roster now. We'll get tested and go BB next time around.

Wish I had a FIFO job to visit in between cities. It'll make it easier to play and with some freedom. How often do you have pre-meets and especially sex meets within your city? Because at $300-$500+ (not including dinner and accommodation) over four hours would be VFM if I could sneak away for those hours. However I don't. How do you do it? Going MIA from the missus for extended hours and coming home at night without her suspecting anything? (Can't always return in your gym gear.. right?) What if ur missus wants sex? Does your dick recover that quickly?

[F0x]

Not really anything directly related to SB, but im in Surfers for a bit, and FML, the caucs are hot down here even the MILFy ones.

Id happily bang more than 80% of the caucs around here and im not really "into" then.

Wont have time to indulge or look around tor any RnT unfortunately!

Tbf though id assume any shops here wont have the kind of talent walking the streets though.

[yuikara3]

I've given SA a check but there's not much that really catches my eye in comparison with some young escorts. Maybe my account is limited to very few women so I'm not entirely sure.

[Rookiestones]

Hi Essy

Good questions. And ones I fortunately worked out when I was still punting in brothels and with Privates.

A few things on this

1. The Minister for War is as tight as. So I never battle her head on. It’s a losing proposition.

2. A few years ago I set up separate online accounts on my banking app. You can do this without needing any paper work and without getting any paperwork in the mail.

3. I get part of my salary and my bonuses sent to that account. I use those for punting. I always have reasonable increases going through the main account, so that it is not suspicious, but the sleeper account in my name only is also set to private mode and so not shown on the Home Screen of my banking app.

4. I don’t keep a card for that account - I do cardless cash withdrawals.

5. I will, with my regulars, use PayID as it is easier and also out of the private account

6. Tax time - is all done by my tax accountant. As I’m the finance guy in the house, I do all the paperwork - the MoW is not interested in the slightest. She tried it once and got sick of it after a week of it. So now it’s my “chore” to do :-)

7. Subs to SA - I don’t actually pay these through my sleeper account, I pay these through an Australia Post card (Cash Passport) that I set up years ago. It functions like a debit card.

Hope this helps answer the questions, but let me know if not.

Thanks Benny, this is gold. So is the Australia Post card the secret weapon that enables you to pay for everything without leaving any tracks on your bank statements? From paying for lunches, dining and accommodations?

[Rookiestones]

My first meet up
I’m not good at writing reviews but here I go. Had my first meet last Friday. I can say that’s it’s completely different compared to going to brothels. We meet up in the hotel room the afternoon I was quite nervous at this stage as I’ve never done this sort of things before. But at the same time I was excited at meeting this South American girl. Once in the room she also told me that she was nervous and only meet one other time for dinner and nothing else. Seems genuine but who bloody knows.

Anyway we started chatting about what she does for work and what are her hobbies. Told me she was studying to become a psychologist and working as a nanny at the same time She ask me what I do and if I have a partner/married which I replied yes to the latter. She even mentioned that we should organize to meet up early to get away from the misses. Lol. So she seems keen to meet this old man.

At this stage I was feeling hungry too so I ask her if she wanted to have lunch in the room which she replied sure if you want too. Damn.. I was thinking is this how all meet ups end up. It was so relaxing without the rush that you get in brothels.

After we had our lunch that’s when the play time started. I won’t go to too much details but damn… that body of hers is hot. Just think of those South American body curvy and a nice ass type.

We probably spend about 3.5 hrs together and not once she mentioned about money to me. She said that it’s up to me how much I want to give her and would never ask for more of gifts at all. So I paid her $700 that’s with me paying for her Uber ride as well,even thought she didn’t want to take it.
She mentioned that 2 weeks ago prior to our meet up btw.

All in all it was nice to see a lady that you can converse/click with. She was just down to earth/understanding about everything we talk about. Damn… have to be careful not to fall in love with her.

Thanks to Bennyb n Riff888 for guiding me along on this SA journey.

Btw I’m meeting up with her again this Friday this time will be for about 5-6 hrs, will update again how this plays out.

Bro Benny/Riff888 how much you reckon I should give her this time round.

Cheers guys hope it was too long to read

Btw I posted in the other thread as well thought I share it here as well.

Thanks for sharing Shiba. Great read.

[Rookiestones]

I use what the girl is comfortable with. I usually suggest text / WhatsApp and let her pick kik if that is what she wants to use.

I leave it in her court so she feels in control and I suggest normally messaging protocols so I don't come across as someone who is used to hookers and expects her to be one too.

Do you have a separate business phone Benny where all your SB engagements, communications and scouting activities are disguise under the cover of work whilst at home? Otherwise how do keep it discreet and under wraps.

[Rookiestones]

Some feedback from a recent trip to Melbourne:

- $400 is still very much achievable in the market
- I had one girl come over for 4 hours one evening and the following evening she stayed over and I gave her $500. She works in a government agency in a management role and just loves the idea of being paid to fuck. Slim, brunette, petite and a lot of fun.
- She had never used many toys before and is in an open relationship with a guy who is living interstate. So we went down to a sex shop in the CBD and I got her some anal beads and a bullet vibrator which could both fit in her handbag. Both were well used on the two nights I was in town
- Sex was bareback - we had talked enough about sexual history, she is in her late 20's and seems switched on, so I felt comfortable with it - she is on the pill and loves cum in her mouth and in her pussy

So for those of you thinking of sugaring interstate, Melbourne still has an excellent selection of SBs and very reasonable pricing. Of course there are the daydreamers who want $600 or $700 or more, but you just have to sift through those.

Great read. Thanks for sharing this experience. The SB sounded like fun.

Having BB sex feels good and finishing off with creampie is awesome. I know you said she was on the pills but ain't you abit scared it might backfire??

[rooter]

I had a chat with a WL and somewhere snuck in between a blowjob, cunnilingus, and fucking and she said she did some sugarbabying (is that even a verb?) and she said she was charging $500 for a date and her friends were charging around the same. A "date" was catching up in a hotel room or sometimes the daddy's place if he was single. She said the unicorn sugardaddy most potential "babies" were looking for was a real old school one who set his baby up in an apartment, paid her an allowance, expensive gifts and fancy restaurants, but she said these guys were super rare, but she said she had a girlfriend whom had found one.

[DrBean]

In Sydney the rumour is that the Lebanese guys who are also running shady powder businesses are the most prominent for setting girls up with allowances and apartments.

Agree it is very rare - most guys with that kind of money are into something else besides legit business.

[Rookiestones]

Hmm is there a SB code? Like whats to stop the WL from finding out, seducing and leaching off her friends unicorn SD?

[F0x]

You're missing out. Half of them are probably on Seeking.com

Thats the worst part, have to abstain.

Want to give one of my regulars a milk bath when i get back!

[dotcumdotinyou]

Must be interesting for you Benny, asking questions (and patting yourself on the back) with one login then answering those questions with another login.

[dotcumdotinyou]

And you're the expert at being a fuckwit Benny.

Sad news for you Benny better sit down, it won't be painful or difficult for others when you die.

[rooter]

Still can't understand this hostility toward Benny
He is sharing his opinions and experiences.
What's the problem?
Surely this Forum is big enough to share different views and opinions and experiences.
FFS we have threads on sport and and MAFS, and covid and all sorts of stuff totally not related to punting, surely a thread on sugardaddy/baby is OK. At least its in the same ball park as punting.

[dotcumdotinyou]

You'd have to pull your head out of your own arse first Benny

[dotcumdotinyou]

What's the matter Benny...am I bad for business. Are you loosing money on commissions and book sales?

[dotcumdotinyou]

Your looking the wrong way Benny...try looking forward to see how far ahead I am.

[dotcumdotinyou]

By we you of course mean all your different logins

[dotcumdotinyou]

Why don't you come see me sometime soon

[dotcumdotinyou]

Don't worry I still have a couple of 1 cent coins.

[DrBean]

This is really starting to get out of hand. I wish the admins of the site would step in here and deal with this.
I’ve been reading this thread for some time and have enjoyed the lesson that are in here. I don’t understand why one or two idiots have to spoil it for everyone.
If you don’t want to be a part of this thread please go and read something else.

[Sydboy65]

Spot on. Why do we have to listen to this numbskull? Can we block him or get him off this thread? I want to hear about sugaring

[Rookiestones]

Benny, do as I did and ignore. There's no point nor value in sparring with trolls. Back to topic, thank you for your time addressing my curiosity. I enjoy reading your SB reviews/report sessions. Please keep them coming.

[DrBean]

How much are you spending on Sugarbabes a month - and is it all on a per meet or is anyone on an allowance type arrangement?

[Shiba]

Some feed back on my SB meet.

So IV bn seeing this same SB 3x now, out of the blue I got a text from another SB that I texted 2 weeks ago that I haven't heard from. From that text she was keen on meeting up. This happened last Monday. The allowance she ask for was $500 for 4hrs which I agreed too. She was a mixed Asian X Poish I think n grew up in Aus. So it was perfect.

So I organise that day n told her we can meet at 12 which she agreed on, upon waiting for her I received a texted saying that she's held up from work and won't make it till 2 now to which I agreed to wait. Come 2 o'clock she still haven't turned up n texted her wether or not she's still coming. Didn't get a message from her til close to 3:30 told me that she's still coming and she was stuck in a meeting n will be here by 4:15.she apologies to me n said that she'll make it up to me by giving me the best dtbbbj Ive ever had n that she wants me to come on her tits/mouth,to which I replied sure I will do that lol.

4:30 comes i still haven't heard from her, By this time I said to myself that she's ghosted me n won't come, so I decided to ring Ginza up and see who was working on that day as I had to relieved my blue balls,from popping that magic blue pill
lol. I was going to wait for her for another half hr n if she didn't come by thn,fuck it I'll booked someone from Ginza. While I was trying to make a booking to Ginza I received a msg saying that she's 10mins away, I was suprise.

Anyway I meet her downstairs n told her that I've got the booking only until 6 she asked me if we can extend but told her we can't,hotel is booked out. Well we only had 1:15mins to see each other and upon meeting her we rush to the lift.while we were in the lift she whispered to me n said I'm so horny n I'm going to fuck ur brains out n started to play with my cock. Told Gerber to settle down as the cameras in her. I couldn't believe it once we were in the room she strip naked straightway n help me take my clothes off n started giving me dtbbbj.we fair every position she wanted n I wanted n when I was I about to come she told me to come in her mouth. Wtf fark I said to myself this girl is insane. Lol.
It was PSE Ive never experienced b4.

Anyway she was that good that I end up busting my nuts 3xin 1:15 mins. Told her I haven't done that since I was back in my 20s n she just laugh.

This was an experience that I never had from my other SB Ive bn seeing. So I ask if she wanted to see me again on Friday to which she replied YES too n said that I'll meet you at 11-5, to make it up for bn every late today.

Sorry for the long review. Will review the Friday session later on as I have another meet now with a mixed Irish X Ukranian.

Btw she is Bi as well n showed me her X on her phone, farked me she's pretty as well,told me that she'll suprise me with her friend when she comes down from melb to join us. Told her sure thing I can't wait.

[Shiba]

How much are you spending on Sugarbabes a month - and is it all on a per meet or is anyone on an allowance type arrangement?

Hi mate, well my first one the Brazilian, we just meet twice a month during the day. Thats our arrangement. But after seeing the mixed Asian one I will be seeing her twice a month instead as she is unbelievable.

[Rookiestones]

Great read on your feedback with your SB and thanks for sharing. I got say, 4.5hrs is a hell of a time to be late and a long wait. Sounds like she was worth the wait in the end and making up for it as well. Bonus.

[Shiba]

Great read on your feedback with your SB and thanks for sharing. I got say, 4.5hrs is a hell of a time to be late and a long wait. Sounds like she was worth the wait in the end and making up for it as well. Bonus.

Thanks mate. Yeah 4.5 hrs is a long wait but was worth the wait at the end.

Now I'm still waiting for my other SB to come as well. She's 3 hrs late this one. Fark me what's wrong with people not bn on time.

[Rookiestones]

Good luck. As long as she makes up for it, the it'll be worth it right? But geezzz 7.5hrs of your time...how annoying

[Shiba]

Well I might as well review my second meet with the Asian mix last Friday. Since my meet today is delayed as well. Fark me..

Here it goes. So this time she was 1/2 hr late which is good. As soon as we meet up again she undress me n gave me dtbbbj, what I sight to see. She suggested we have a fuck in the bath which we did and moved back to bed after 20mins. We continued the session until I blew my first load in her mouth and she just keep going squeezing every drop of my come in her mouth.

We ordered lunch n while we were eating she started to play with my cock again n started to blow me. She even put tartare sauce on my cock so she can lick it off. Fark me this is porn style shit happening here. Started the second session and while I was doing her doggy she asked me to insert my fingers up her ass which I oblige n she loved it n I blew. Fark me she's out of this world.

We talked about her friend again joining us next time so I said sure let's lock in a date when she arrives here from melb. Showed me her friends naked photos as well n she looks bloody hot as well n she's also mixed. Damn... Live this mixed girls. She told me her friends is horny as fuck and that I probably won't be able to handle her as well. I said we'll see lol.

Anyway this second session was better than the first time as we spend 6hrs together. I told her I will take her lingerie shopping next time we meet,to her reply sure I would love that but as long as we shop quickly because I rather fuck thn do shopping. Hahaha

Ooo also she said she was going to bring toys the next time we meet. 🥺🥺🥺

Loving this SA. Jus need to slow down now as I'm running out of excuses to tell my boss why I'm taking so many days off. 🤣🤣🤣

[Rookiestones]

Lol good stuff. How much did the second meet cost ya?

[bradpitt]

Anyway I meet her downstairs n told her that I've got the booking only until 6 she asked me if we can extend but told her we can't,hotel is booked out. Well we only had 1:15mins to see each other and upon meeting her we rush to the lift.while we were in the lift she whispered to me n said I'm so horny n I'm going to fuck ur brains out n started to play with my cock. Told Gerber to settle down as the cameras in her. I couldn't believe it once we were in the room she strip naked straightway n help me take my clothes off n started giving me dtbbbj.we fair every position she wanted n I wanted n when I was I about to come she told me to come in her mouth. Wtf fark I said to myself this girl is insane. Lol.
It was PSE Ive never experienced b4.

so you waited 4 hours for 1 hour of sex. Did she still expect the full agreed fee?

[apokalypse]

@ Shiba..how much for her? i don't know but she's up there..one of rare commodity and congrats.

[Kiwi Punter]

If they are young, don't be surprised. Punctuality generally is not their strongpoint.

Anyone know why young people these days are so laissez-faire about being on time? It drives me nuts. Why do they think people will be cool about waiting around for them?

[Shiba]

Lol good stuff. How much did the second meet cost ya?

$500, but she was worth it. She was happy to stay longer with me but I couldn’t extend the hotel.

[Shiba]

$500 mate. Yeah definitely,I guess she’s one of those unicorn u find.

[Shiba]

Thanks Benny, no I didn’t mate,I was going to settle for a smaller amount but she promised me that she’ll make it up to me on our next meet. So I wasn’t that fussy about since we had a very good connection with each other. She made it up on our second meet,4days later.

Yeah it’s a bloody roller coaster ride for sure,but it last longer than the ride. Lol.

This SA meets are so addictive especially when u have someone that u connect with. It’s so completely diff from going to brothels. In brothels you booked 1-2 hrs,it’s shower,sex,massage,small chit chat n sex again. That will also cost u at least $600-$650. Where with SA for that price you’ll be spending 4 hrs worth and no rush as well. Well in my case it was 6hrs.

So all in all I prefer SA than going to brothels now.

Shit sry Bennyb, didn’t want to write a big reply but couldn’t help it. Lol

[Shiba]

True that. She told me that she was waiting for her TV to be delivered. It was meant to be by 9am. Anyway that meet I had to cancel due to her still waiting for the delivery. First meet that I had to pay the hotel room n not use it.

[Shiba]

If they are young, don't be surprised. Punctuality generally is not their strongpoint.


True that. She told me that she was waiting for her TV to be delivered. It was meant to be by 9am. Anyway that meet I had to cancel due to her still waiting for the delivery. First meet that I had to pay the hotel room n not use it.

[Rookiestones]

True that. She told me that she was waiting for her TV to be delivered. It was meant to be by 9am. Anyway that meet I had to cancel due to her still waiting for the delivery. First meet that I had to pay the hotel room n not use it.

Hey Shiba, how did you pay for the hotel room? If not by cash, how are you covering your tracks by not having the transaction appear in your bank statement? Cheers

[Shiba]

Hey Shiba, how did you pay for the hotel room? If not by cash, how are you covering your tracks by not having the transaction appear in your bank statement? Cheers

Hey Rook, I pay by cash mate. I use dayuse and look for hotels that you don’t need to give them ur CC for deposit. Buy most hotel u jus tell them that u don’t have CC and they ask for cash deposit. Which I do that. To risky handing over ur CC to even for deposit. I don’t want anything tracing back to me.

[Shiba]

Damn Shiba you are so patient man! Lots of work but having fun is so true of this site

Yeah bro I think I’m more patient now that I’m older. Lol. At least I got served handsomely by her. So it was worth bn patient with her.

[Shiba]

It's good to hear that you are having fun out there Shiba and hopefully this thread helped you on your way.

If we all pay it forward, we all get a bit better at the game.

Thanks for your kind words mate. Yeah definitely it has help me a lot from reading ur reviews n help. Much appreciated bro. Even Riff888 has help me a lot so thank u too Riff888.

I have more experience now thn b4 so will always pay it forward.

Btw I’m seeing that mixed Irish n Ukrainian tomorrow, the one that cancels on yesterday will let u know how it went. In the expensive side though. But Fark it I’ll try it once.

Also Im off all this week told my boss that my daughter is sick n have to look after her all week. On top of that the mixed Asian girl jus text me n wanting to see me on Thursday. Don’t know if I can cope with heron the day. As I would be doing back to back meet. Lol.

[heianth]

Takes you five minutes with your internet banking to sign up for a separate account and card that your partner cannot see and then you just funnel money through there.I've got separate accounts and cards. But what that doesn't stop is potentially the SB going to reception to try and find out who you are (if you are going by an alias).

Maybe I am too cautious.

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[Rookiestones]

Takes you five minutes with your internet banking to sign up for a separate account and card that your partner cannot see and then you just funnel money through there.

Thanks Benny, I acknowledge this tip from an earlier comment. I was curious to know what approach and method Shiba had incase it was different. All was helpful.

[Rookiestones]

On top of that the mixed Asian girl jus text me n wanting to see me on Thursday. Don’t know if I can cope with heron the day. As I would be doing back to back meet. Lol.

These regular SB meets gonna send you broke mate 🤣

[Riff888]

Thanks for your kind words mate. Yeah definitely it has help me a lot from reading ur reviews n help. Much appreciated bro. Even Riff888 has help me a lot so thank u too Riff888.

I have more experience now thn b4 so will always pay it forward.

Btw I’m seeing that mixed Irish n Ukrainian tomorrow, the one that cancels on yesterday will let u know how it went. In the expensive side though. But Fark it I’ll try it once.

Also Im off all this week told my boss that my daughter is sick n have to look after her all week. On top of that the mixed Asian girl jus text me n wanting to see me on Thursday. Don’t know if I can cope with heron the day. As I would be doing back to back meet. Lol.Thanks Shiba, I think it's normal going crazy until you find a girl you can see ongoing.

Thanks for your info on Indonesia.

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[heianth]

I usually tell all of my SBs my real name after a couple of meets.

The key here is to select well. Pre meets and a couple of sex meets with a normal girl who has her own career and life usually helps you eliminate the crazies.

I've been doing this for many years and it creates a deeper sense of trust. I've never regretted it.Good idea! I just need to get even 1x sex meet first lol

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[apokalypse]

$500, but she was worth it. She was happy to stay longer with me but I couldn’t extend the hotel.

$500 for 2nd meeting with great sex..worth it.

go thought profiles..saw girls along the line of want to be spoil and taking care off or "provide luxury lifestyles", stay away from these girl? that's the thing i don't get, why they want luxury lifestyle? i can understand need help with debt and stuff but SB who's poor living in luxury lifestyle seems wrong...instead of LV bag ask to by groceries/paying bills...ect.

while some girls just need financial help like one i saw needed money for mortgage or uni which happen alot with SB in US. few profiles that i like is they looking for mentor in investment...

congrats to those found a good one...just hated those asking for more for average service.

[Rookiestones]

Hi BennyB and others, I just created a new thread located in the NSW - 141 After Report section titled 'SugarBaby ONLY' as a spin off to this thread. Would be good to consolidate all the SB stories into the one thread collection.

[Rookiestones]

Oh umm yeah, I'm not sure either. Admins, sorry. Please delete if it broke any rules.

[Shiba]

Stay hydrated and make sure you are getting enough sleep. Although that sounds like it is not easy at the moment with the amount of fucking you are doing! :-)

Yeah I have being drinking a lot of water. Lol

[Shiba]

I've got separate accounts and cards. But what that doesn't stop is potentially the SB going to reception to try and find out who you are (if you are going by an alias).

Maybe I am too cautious.

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You’ll be safe bro. Receptions won’t disclose who you are I don’t think. If ur worried so much, jus like me, use cash for everything. Even for in room dinning

[Shiba]

Thanks Benny, I acknowledge this tip from an earlier comment. I was curious to know what approach and method Shiba had incase it was different. All was helpful.

I just used cash for everything Rook even for in room dining.

[Shiba]

These regular SB meets gonna send you broke mate 🤣

Yeah probably, but u only live once so f..k it. Did well for myself with stocks.

I’m actually seeing her tomorrow now instead of the Irish mixed. Lol.

[Shiba]

$500 for 2nd meeting with great sex..worth it.

go thought profiles..saw girls along the line of want to be spoil and taking care off or "provide luxury lifestyles", stay away from these girl? that's the thing i don't get, why they want luxury lifestyle? i can understand need help with debt and stuff but SB who's poor living in luxury lifestyle seems wrong...instead of LV bag ask to by groceries/paying bills...ect.

while some girls just need financial help like one i saw needed money for mortgage or uni which happen alot with SB in US. few profiles that i like is they looking for mentor in investment...

congrats to those found a good one...just hated those asking for more for average service.


Yeah come across with a few like that. Straight away I ignore it. But some they jus put it up the to see if ur willing to buy all that stuff for them. If they ask while chatting to them I straight away say good bye. F..k that buying all that stuff for them.

Luckily this Asian mixed one is not like that. She’s completely different to the others I’ve seen. She’s no where as materialistic as some of the SA. Hence I m going to take her lingerie shopping next week.

[Shiba]

I’ve decided to see the Asian mixed tomorrow instead of the Irish mixed. She’s to good to pass on for tomorrow. She was texting me today saying that she was so horny n wanted to see now. Told her I couldn’t but I’ll try to see her tomorrow. Which I’m going to do, so I cancelled the other one.

Meeting her really early as well tomorrow and she told me that she’s going to hv a full balls in her mouth for breakfast. Geez…how can I resist that

[Shiba]

Thanks Shiba, I think it's normal going crazy until you find a girl you can see ongoing.

Thanks for your info on Indonesia.

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Yeah true that Riff888. I think I found one anyway lol. I can’t wait till her friend joins us for a 3some. Lol.

My pleasure bro. Let us all know how it went over thr with her.

Btw ask her to take u to jimbaran, Thrs a nice seafood restaurant if u like seafood

[Rookiestones]

I’ve decided to see the Asian mixed tomorrow instead of the Irish mixed. She’s to good to pass on for tomorrow. She was texting me today saying that she was so horny n wanted to see now. Told her I couldn’t but I’ll try to see her tomorrow. Which I’m going to do, so I cancelled the other one.

Meeting her really early as well tomorrow and she told me that she’s going to hv a full balls in her mouth for breakfast. Geez…how can I resist that

How many hours late did she make you wait for this meet up Shiba? I'm gonna nominate 2hrs

[Shiba]

How many hours late did she make you wait for this meet up Shiba? I'm gonna nominate 2hrs

Hahaha. Your wrong,She was actually on time this morning.

Shame that she had to leave for work at 1 if not she would of stayed till 5. But thank god she did leave at 1 coz I was so exhausted in that 4 hrs. F..k me,jus gets better n better every time we meet.

Told her I won’t be able to meet up next week coz I’m going to Melbourne on the weekend. Unbeknown to me she said that she’s also flying down to Melbourne on Monday n that she’s staying with her ex bi friend. The funny thing is that her friend lives not far away from Whr I’m staying only 5-10 mins walk. She told me to meet up with her n her friends. I said I can’t, I can’t get away from the misses. So I said will see.

[Rookiestones]

Lol mate... That's a big carrot she's dangling. How awesome and how bloody tempting. What was the damage for today's meet for the 4 hours?

[apokalypse]

Hahaha. Your wrong,She was actually on time this morning.

Shame that she had to leave for work at 1 if not she would of stayed till 5. But thank god she did leave at 1 coz I was so exhausted in that 4 hrs. F..k me,jus gets better n better every time we meet.

Told her I won’t be able to meet up next week coz I’m going to Melbourne on the weekend. Unbeknown to me she said that she’s also flying down to Melbourne on Monday n that she’s staying with her ex bi friend. The funny thing is that her friend lives not far away from Whr I’m staying only 5-10 mins walk. She told me to meet up with her n her friends. I said I can’t, I can’t get away from the misses. So I said will see.

oh man..alot of people jealous for your amazing experience. not many people get that experience. I don't know bro but careful not get emotional attracted to her.

[Rogeryou]

I was working from home today and did a double SB day. Lunch time did my regular 22yo at her parents house BBCIP. Spread her on her brothers bed. This girl has a super tight box always hard to push in. But once you are in oh man wow. Fucked her slow deep long, all she could say was big cock omg over and over.
I asked her if her boyfriend fucks her as good, her reply was omg omg no hahah. She seriously should be paying me.

So missis went out in this evening so I saw SB #2 another tight box 29yo with a boy friend, magic fuck nice rack excellent body. BB service but she gives such amazing head I have to finish in her mouth every time. I shudder it’s like an electric shock, she sucks every drop and keeps going.
So the first little slut started with $300 PPM it’s now $100 and the second one is now free.

Friday I am going to pump my favourite ML who does cum in throat. Tuesday I am going to fuck a new big titty Korean WL someone posted a link that’s at Homebush. Thursday my private regular WL and hoping to squeeze in my Thai private WL too.
Hope your Easter is as good as mine.

[Sibon]

I was working from home today and did a double SB day. Lunch time did my regular 22yo at her parents house BBCIP. Spread her on her brothers bed. This girl has a super tight box always hard to push in. But once you are in oh man wow. Fucked her slow deep long, all she could say was big cock omg over and over.
I asked her if her boyfriend fucks her as good, her reply was omg omg no hahah. She seriously should be paying me.

So missis went out in this evening so I saw SB #2 another tight box absolute 29yo with a boy friend, magic fuck nice rack excellent body. BB service but she gives such amazing head I have to finish in her mouth every time. I shudder it’s like an electric shock she sucks every drop and keeps going.
So the first little slut started with $300 PPM it’s not $100 and the second one is now free.

Friday I am going to pump my favourite ML who does cum in throat. Tuesday I am going to fuck a new big titty Korean WL someone posted a link that’s at Homebush. Thursday my private regular WL and hoping to squeeze in my Thai private WL too.
Hope your Easter is as good as mine.

This is almost like a dream. You are our Hero and Idol.

[Rogeryou]

This is almost like a dream. You are our Hero and Idol.

Hahaha they aren’t my girlfriends mate I pay them! Takes time effort and cash to get to an awesome private level with MLs and WLs. Not looking to date them but I am genuine friends with some of the private’s I see from shops. I am a big time foodie and I find a lot of WLs are too so we do nice lunches chats stay in regular touch.

[didaswiwaw]

Can someone enlighten me how this works? I'm reading some of the comments, I was surprised that having a sugar baby is not as expensive as I thought would be. I also don't understand lots of abbreviation here. If I'm correct, I should look for a sugar baby on SB(secret benefits?), then find a match there? Is the normal rate around $400-$500 per meet? Can I cum more than once per meeting? does this rate applied for girls in their early 20s as well? Could I arrange to meet at my place(still single)? Does this thing works well for Asian dudes? How much is the subscription fee towards the SB platform?

I'm still newbie at this. Will really really appreciate if someone can tell me how this works.

[Funandfun]

Can someone enlighten me how this works? I'm reading some of the comments, I was surprised that having a sugar baby is not as expensive as I thought would be. I also don't understand lots of abbreviation here. If I'm correct, I should look for a sugar baby on SB(secret benefits?), then find a match there? Is the normal rate around $400-$500 per meet? Can I cum more than once per meeting? does this rate applied for girls in their early 20s as well? Could I arrange to meet at my place(still single)? Does this thing works well for Asian dudes? How much is the subscription fee towards the SB platform?

I'm still newbie at this. Will really really appreciate if someone can tell me how this works.

Some senior SB punters should create a list of FAQs using the above for further guidance.

[Rookiestones]

This is almost like a dream. You are our Hero and Idol.

+1. What a awesome read. Rogeryou, the 2x SB with bfs. You found them on seeking?!? If so, were they already in a relationship or afterwards? This kinda adds to the excitement (in addition to doing it at a SB parents house - like wow)

[Shiba]

Lol mate... That's a big carrot she's dangling. How awesome and how bloody tempting. What was the damage for today's meet for the 4 hours?


Yeah she’s dangling that big carrot alright. She told me to make some excuse to see her for 1 hr so I can F..k her n her friend together. Told her I will bloody try for sure.

Damage for today was $500 thinking of bringing it down soon. But know how to bring it up without offending her.

[Shiba]

oh man..alot of people jealous for your amazing experience. not many people get that experience. I don't know bro but careful not get emotional attracted to her.

Yeah true that bro. Especially when home is not that good. I would actually date her lol.

[Rookiestones]

Question to the SD here: have you chanced it with any SB with no pic in their profile? If so, how has it turn out? Or do you normally take the safe approach and pick girls with at least a photo?

[Shiba]

I was working from home today and did a double SB day. Lunch time did my regular 22yo at her parents house BBCIP. Spread her on her brothers bed. This girl has a super tight box always hard to push in. But once you are in oh man wow. Fucked her slow deep long, all she could say was big cock omg over and over.
I asked her if her boyfriend fucks her as good, her reply was omg omg no hahah. She seriously should be paying me.

So missis went out in this evening so I saw SB #2 another tight box 29yo with a boy friend, magic fuck nice rack excellent body. BB service but she gives such amazing head I have to finish in her mouth every time. I shudder it’s like an electric shock, she sucks every drop and keeps going.
So the first little slut started with $300 PPM it’s now $100 and the second one is now free.

Friday I am going to pump my favourite ML who does cum in throat. Tuesday I am going to fuck a new big titty Korean WL someone posted a link that’s at Homebush. Thursday my private regular WL and hoping to squeeze in my Thai private WL too.
Hope your Easter is as good as mine.


Damn… bro what a story you have there, Congrats!!!

Don’t know how you can juggle all the women in a whole week. How do you get away doing it without the misses knowing?

Since I started SA I don’t have the urge to visit my favorite WL due to the fact that I like the intimacy part more with my SB.

Did you always pay $300 with ur first SB?

[Rookiestones]

Yeah she’s dangling that big carrot alright. She told me to make some excuse to see her for 1 hr so I can F..k her n her friend together. Told her I will bloody try for sure.

Damage for today was $500 thinking of bringing it down soon. But know how to bring it up without offending her.

Have the price been settled to do her and her friend for the 1 hr IF you're able to Indiana Jones away from ur missus?

[Shiba]

Can someone enlighten me how this works? I'm reading some of the comments, I was surprised that having a sugar baby is not as expensive as I thought would be. I also don't understand lots of abbreviation here. If I'm correct, I should look for a sugar baby on SB(secret benefits?), then find a match there? Is the normal rate around $400-$500 per meet? Can I cum more than once per meeting? does this rate applied for girls in their early 20s as well? Could I arrange to meet at my place(still single)? Does this thing works well for Asian dudes? How much is the subscription fee towards the SB platform?

I'm still newbie at this. Will really really appreciate if someone can tell me how this works.


Hi mate, there are some expensive one out thr, you just need to filtered them out. Obviously if they are gorgeous you’ll be paying premium price, just depends on how much cash you want to part with.

Google some of the abbreviations, that’s what I did.

Yes, you can play more than once if your going to be staying with her between 2-3 hrs.

$400-$500 is reasonable price for 3-4 hrs. Mind you I found one that I’m seeing now n I pay her $500 for 4-5/6 hrs of her time and we have in house lunch in between. But more experience guys like Bennyb,Riff888 n now roger (above post) has got it cheaper. So Mayb ask them.

I guess if thr comfortable enough they will come over ur place for the meet.

Doesn’t matter if ur Asian,white ,black if they get a connection with u they will meet. I myself is Asian. The funny think is that I get more of a hit rate with Caucasian thn Asian lol. I’ve msg over 5-9 asian only 2 got back to me for a meet 1 is the the one I’m seeing now, but she’s mixed so can say that she’s pure Asian. Thn I’ve msg 5 Caucasian n all of thm I got a msg back from thm. Out of the 5 I’m seeing 2 of them since the other 3 I didn’t feel a connection with.

Hope this explains some of ur Curiosity bro.

[Rogeryou]

Damn… bro what a story you have there, Congrats!!!

Don’t know how you can juggle all the women in a whole week. How do you get away doing it without the misses knowing?

Since I started SA I don’t have the urge to visit my favorite WL due to the fact that I like the intimacy part more with my SB.

Did you always pay $300 with ur first SB?

Yeah it was 300 from the start as it grew to a friendship the price came down. I also wasn’t looking for hugs and kisses I just like to fuck hard and leave. I told her whilst I could afford it my issue was accounting for the cash due to my missis ect (which was BS) and pretty much said 100 take it or leave it and she took it. She also let me film yesterday.

The second one I got her a job via a connection I had, she loves the job and now services me no charge.

I am corporate I move around a lot, so I generally fuck during lunch prob 2 times a week or after work. I work from home I can fuck on that day and I also run a lot of projects from home so I need to move around and source things after hours. I train and some days I go for a fuck instead, just turn up with my gym bag.
I plan my pussy 1-2 weeks ahead

[Blue007]

Thanks Roger for you insight. Any advice how to avoid any STD especially with barebacking? Do you get them do a test beforehand?

[Rookiestones]

[QUOTE=Shiba;2369459
Doesn’t matter if ur Asian,white ,black if they get a connection with u they will meet. I myself is Asian. The funny think is that I get more of a hit rate with Caucasian thn Asian lol. I’ve msg over 5-9 asian only 2 got back to me for a meet 1 is the the one I’m seeing now, but she’s mixed so can say that she’s pure Asian. Thn I’ve msg 5 Caucasian n all of thm I got a msg back from thm. Out of the 5 I’m seeing 2 of them since the other 3 I didn’t feel a connection with.

Hope this explains some of ur Curiosity bro.[/QUOTE]

Having established your status and background to the SB, have you notice anything differences with how an Asian SB interacts with you vs a Caucasian SB? For instance the asian SB is more snobby and cold shoulder vibe where as Caucasian SB more open and willing? All they were generally all the same and ultimately just some didn't connect.

[Rogeryou]

Thanks Roger for you insight. Any advice how to avoid any STD especially with barebacking? Do you get them do a test beforehand?

One of them I did ask her to get tested the other I just couldn’t help myself

[Shiba]

Yeah it was 300 from the start as it grew to a friendship the price came down. I also wasn’t looking for hugs and kisses I just like to fuck hard and leave. I told her whilst I could afford it my issue was accounting for the cash due to my missis ect (which was BS) and pretty much said 100 take it or leave it and she took it. She also let me film yesterday.

The second one I got her a job via a connection I had, she loves the job and now services me no charge.

I am corporate I move around a lot, so I generally fuck during lunch prob 2 times a week or after work. I work from home I can fuck on that day and I also run a lot of projects from home so I need to move around and source things after hours. I train and some days I go for a fuck instead, just turn up with my gym bag.
I plan my pussy 1-2 weeks ahead

Wow.. you got lucky paying that much.

Nice that u have a corporate job. Wish I had that. I think I need to start looking for a business to start up so I can have more free time seeing my girl lol.

[Shiba]

Question to the SD here: have you chanced it with any SB with no pic in their profile? If so, how has it turn out? Or do you normally take the safe approach and pick girls with at least a photo?

Yeah I have, but once we start chatting in WhatsApp/kik I ask for thr photos. They tend to send photos thn. Happens all the time with me.

[Shiba]

Have the price been settled to do her and her friend for the 1 hr IF you're able to Indiana Jones away from ur missus?

No she didn’t mention about the price. Could be a freebie.

[Shiba]

One of them I did ask her to get tested the other I just couldn’t help myself


Same here, the girl I’m seeing now just said we should get tested so we can go BB the next time we meet coz she hates using condoms. Which I will be doing b4 our next meet Wednesday.

[Rookiestones]

This SB girl of yours just keeps getting better and better Shiba

[Sibon]

... I think I need to start looking for a business to start up so I can have more free time seeing my girl lol.

When you have a business of your own you'll be working 7 days a week with long hours. You may not have the time and energy for the girls.

Or you're so preoccupied with the business that you don't even think about the MLs and WLs. But this could turn out to be a good thing for the missus.

[tan30]

Been keeping up and reading these comments. Really envious of the SB arrangements you lot have since it's basically having a gf but with consistent sex and no BS drama. It's always a question of time and money- no idea how to find time to do meets etc :(

[Rookiestones]

Been keeping up and reading these comments. Really envious of the SB arrangements you lot have since it's basically having a gf but with consistent sex and no BS drama. It's always a question of time and money- no idea how to find time to do meets etc :(
Agree 100%. I'm of the same view.

[Johnisfun1969]

Yeah it was 300 from the start as it grew to a friendship the price came down. I also wasn’t looking for hugs and kisses I just like to fuck hard and leave. I told her whilst I could afford it my issue was accounting for the cash due to my missis ect (which was BS) and pretty much said 100 take it or leave it and she took it. She also let me film yesterday.

The second one I got her a job via a connection I had, she loves the job and now services me no charge.

I am corporate I move around a lot, so I generally fuck during lunch prob 2 times a week or after work. I work from home I can fuck on that day and I also run a lot of projects from home so I need to move around and source things after hours. I train and some days I go for a fuck instead, just turn up with my gym bag.
I plan my pussy 1-2 weeks ahead


Mate you are lucky bastard, excuse me for saying this as all the girls I come across want $500 and above. The really good ones ask for closer to $1000 mark. One just wanted $300 to meet. The most I have given is $600 but this girl was happy to host but her apartment was filthy. I thought next time I would ask to meet at a hotel but she does not respond. But good luck and enjoy while you can.

[apokalypse]

how negotiating works? take her to dinner and when/where talked about the money? there's girls out there just love to fuck and money open their eyes..you guys damn luck have great experience much better than brothel/escort. money worth

[Shiba]

When you have a business of your own you'll be working 7 days a week with long hours. You may not have the time and energy for the girls.

Or you're so preoccupied with the business that you don't even think about the MLs and WLs. But this could turn out to be a good thing for the missus.

What I meant was to semi retire n work 3 days a week n have monday n Friday off. In those 2 days I want to find a business Whr I have to go out n source products or wat ever needs be or as a silent partner in a business Whr I don’t have to be in the office. I need the misses to see Thrs actually money going into the bank acc from that business. Therefore I have those 2 days up my sleeve for a meet up.

[Shiba]

how negotiating works? take her to dinner and when/where talked about the money? there's girls out there just love to fuck and money open their eyes..you guys damn luck have great experience much better than brothel/escort. money worth

Due to my situation I don’t take them out to dinner.I usually jus asked them straight out to the hotel n tell them we can have lunch at the same time. All 3 of my meets is bn like that.

Well with me I usually ask her wat allowance she’s asking for during our chats n after seeing thr photos.

[Shiba]

Mate you are lucky bastard, excuse me for saying this as all the girls I come across want $500 and above. The really good ones ask for closer to $1000 mark. One just wanted $300 to meet. The most I have given is $600 but this girl was happy to host but her apartment was filthy. I thought next time I would ask to meet at a hotel but she does not respond. But good luck and enjoy while you can.

Well $500 I think is reasonable if they stay with u for 3-4hrs n the sex is amazing. Thn again I know Bennyb n some others in here have paid less.

Your right the pretty one tend to ask for 1k, I had one that text me she was asking that much for 2-3 hrs. I end up negotiating it down to $800 for 4 hrs and she agreed, but we haven’t actually meet yet. Timing wasn’t lining up for us.

I would never pay $300 jus for a meet. I would ask her if that includes play time too. If a girl ask you that jus for a meet thn she materialistic n high maintenance n u should look for someone else. There’s plenty of SB that will meet for less.

[Rogeryou]

Mate you are lucky bastard, excuse me for saying this as all the girls I come across want $500 and above. The really good ones ask for closer to $1000 mark. One just wanted $300 to meet. The most I have given is $600 but this girl was happy to host but her apartment was filthy. I thought next time I would ask to meet at a hotel but she does not respond. But good luck and enjoy while you can.

I was chatting to one chick who was a courier hahah and my suburb was on her route. Wanted 100 just to meet. I said happy to pay it but I need a bbbj for the hundred. Negotiate mate and don’t pay a cent for just a meet up.
Basically I say to them do you want 500 for a one off or do you want a weekly 300 ongoing.
I am happy to pay 500 but it needs to be 3-4 hours or fuck off. It’s a numbers home man, you need a good profile and some top shelf banter

[GoldfishMan]

Been keeping up and reading these comments. Really envious of the SB arrangements you lot have since it's basically having a gf but with consistent sex and no BS drama. It's always a question of time and money- no idea how to find time to do meets etc :(
Yeah I get envious reading the stories too, but then I go look at the girls' profiles on seeking and don't see any that get me excited. It all makes me think that there is a high level of uncertainty in this game. Whoremongering is like going to the fish shop and buying the fish that you like. SD-ing is like fishing. You must really like fish and enjoy most of the fish you catch.

If you really are motivated, I'm sure you can think of something to get the time. For example, if you WFH, just get a hotel room and work from there, nobody would know. Or if you're onto a good thing, get a longer stay Airbnb or something.
That's one example how to do it, but it requires upfront costs and that in turn requires a lot of motivation.

[Rogeryou]

Yeah I get envious reading the stories too, but then I go look at the girls' profiles on seeking and don't see any that get me excited. It all makes me think that there is a high level of uncertainty in this game. Whoremongering is like going to the fish shop and buying the fish that you like. SD-ing is like fishing. You must really like fish and enjoy most of the fish you catch.

If you really are motivated, I'm sure you can think of something to get the time. For example, if you WFH, just get a hotel room and work from there, nobody would know. Or if you're onto a good thing, get a longer stay Airbnb or something.
That's one example how to do it, but it requires upfront costs and that in turn requires a lot of motivation.

I think it is perfect for guys that are single that way you can use your own place. As you build rapport it’s gets cheaper much cheaper. Or if you’re loaded and can afford hotels it’s great.

The best thing imv about it is that you’re not getting an out and out WL that’s been thrashed or taken 100 cim that week.

We all know the price of nice looking Caucasian girls on scarlet blue. You can find high quality babes for 500, hot young ones.
I can’t use my own place because I think my missis would not be understanding especially if they are half her age.

[GoldfishMan]

I think it is perfect for guys that are single that way you can use your own place. As you build rapport it’s gets cheaper much cheaper. Or if you’re loaded and can afford hotels it’s great.

The best thing imv about it is that you’re not getting an out and out WL that’s been thrashed or taken 100 cim that week.

We all know the price of nice looking Caucasian girls on scarlet blue. You can find high quality babes for 500, hot young ones.
I can’t use my own place because I think my missis would not be understanding especially if they are half her age.
Yeah for sure it is much easier to play if you're single. Having said that, it's a bit of a paradox. You'd only be able to appreciate the value of a no strings attached arrangement after being in a strings attached relationship and witnessed the pitfalls of that and are prolly stuck in those relationships.

I guess that's why a lot of the bros posting here I can tell have a missus at home. Very few actually are single. I think only bro Riff is truly single as far as I can tell. The others drop hints that they are hitched, if not outright say it like you just did.

[Riff888]

Yeah for sure it is much easier to play if you're single. Having said that, it's a bit of a paradox. You'd only be able to appreciate the value of a no strings attached arrangement after being in a strings attached relationship and witnessed the pitfalls of that and are prolly stuck in those relationships.

I guess that's why a lot of the bros posting here I can tell have a missus at home. Very few actually are single. I think only bro Riff is truly single as far as I can tell. The others drop hints that they are hitched, if not outright say it like you just did.I am single and live in an apartment in the city.

However, the longer you see the same girls, strings do get attached and feelings do develop.

It's different if the girls are still active on SA, then you know she's seeing other guys.

It's more the girls that deactivate or delete their account for you. They expect you to do the same.

Like I'm planning a trip to Indonesia with the Indo girl. I told the Taiwanese girl I'm going to Indonesia for work. She's smart though and probably knows I'm going with a girl. She told me not to go.

Seeing the Taiwanese girl today. It's getting harder to juggle just 2 SBs.

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[apokalypse]

Wondering any introverted in here or know any introverted? Seems need to be straight with this girls on what you want and the cost ay?

[apokalypse]

I was chatting to one chick who was a courier hahah and my suburb was on her route. Wanted 100 just to meet. I said happy to pay it but I need a bbbj for the hundred. Negotiate mate and don’t pay a cent for just a meet up.
Basically I say to them do you want 500 for a one off or do you want a weekly 300 ongoing.
I am happy to pay 500 but it needs to be 3-4 hours or fuck off. It’s a numbers home man, you need a good profile and some top shelf banter

Alot of girls out there not on website like that bro...before aware this whole sb business thing talked to them include my ex really open up for it but not sure if it's me or what but it's on the table and never had thought about it.

I never believe in morals crap never doing it..only 10%, saw few girls talked about loyal but if offer them big money they will do it. normally who said no price might be 2k...thats where riches come in.


Yes..if you single then go for it just ask and depends on chemistry and your connection with her aswell.

[Rogeryou]

I am single and live in an apartment in the city.

However, the longer you see the same girls, strings do get attached and feelings do develop.

It's different if the girls are still active on SA, then you know she's seeing other guys.

It's more the girls that deactivate or delete their account for you. They expect you to do the same.

Like I'm planning a trip to Indonesia with the Indo girl. I told the Taiwanese girl I'm going to Indonesia for work. She's smart though and probably knows I'm going with a girl. She told me not to go.

Seeing the Taiwanese girl today. It's getting harder to juggle just 2 SBs.

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Sounds to me like you doing a great job cuz hahaha did you move one in with you?

[GoldfishMan]

If you are married or partnered and you punt, you can punt Sugarbabes. I've been doing it for several years. It all comes down to how you set up your life and work.
Yeah I know. I’m quite resourceful in the philandering department, but lately I’ve been really lazy to do anything more than the odd punt every week or 2. Combination of getting older, slowing libido, and I guess I’m not sufficiently dissatisfied with the sex I get at home. I’m sure if the sex at home goes downhill I’d be motivated enough to put some effort into SBs.

[Riff888]

Sounds to me like you doing a great job cuz hahaha did you move one in with you?Yeah the Indo girl wants to after our trip.

But I'm not really to stop seeing Miss Taiwan yet.

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[GoldfishMan]

Yeah the Indo girl wants to after our trip.

But I'm not really to stop seeing Miss Taiwan yet.

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Counting you and juscruisin, that’s already 2 bros now going into proper relationships from there SB arrangements. This is like a social experiment: is it really possible to continue having NSA relationships when you and the girls are all single?
Starting to think it’s not likely.

[Riff888]

Counting you and juscruisin, that’s already 2 bros now going into proper relationships from there SB arrangements. This is like a social experiment: is it really possible to continue having NSA relationships when you and the girls are all single?
Starting to think it’s not likely.You can with the professional SBs, like the one's with premium membership. You just don't know how many other guys they're doing BBFS with.

Taiwanese girls can eat a lot OMG. Had a good BBQ session today.78990

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[apokalypse]

I agree. I think this is much closer to genuine punting.

Brothels and shops are like going down to the fish and chip shop.

SDing is a lot more like picking up in a virtual bar. You have to like women for more than the sex and you have to get a thrill out of picking up.

The thing that excites me most about SDing is taking a normal, suburban, student or career women with a whole lot of boring vanilla sexual history and opening their minds to all the stuff she never dreamed she would explore.

should be that way and it's getting expensive going to brothels for shitty services...people who can afford just go to this route of SA/SB or whatever you want to call it..more fun and enjoyable night.

[Riff888]

should be that way and it's getting expensive going to brothels for shitty services...people who can afford just go to this route of SA/SB or whatever you want to call it..more fun and enjoyable night.Not just the night, you can go out on dates, walk holding hands, the whole thing.

Just like having a part time GF.

I'm single so I don't care if anyone sees me. I just don't want my other SB to catch me. Especially when I told her I'm with family for Easter.

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[Miclop]

Not just the night, you can go out on dates, walk holding hands, the whole thing.

Just like having a part time GF.

I'm single so I don't care if anyone sees me. I just don't want my other SB to catch me. Especially when I told her I'm with family for Easter.

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Oh the web we weave, when we first move to deceive...
I always find telling the truth is easier...

[apokalypse]

going through Escortandbabes the prices is beyond while on seek some looking good...on seek found this profile about her "Message me to find out,if you click we can chat.hoping to find a fellow chill person and walk out a mutual beneficial arrangement." ..you guys knows what's that mean?

[Riff888]

going through Escortandbabes the prices is beyond while on seek some looking good...on seek found this profile about her "Message me to find out,if you click we can chat.hoping to find a fellow chill person and walk out a mutual beneficial arrangement." ..you guys knows what's that mean?I know that profile, 30 year old Asian girl, a little chubby.

It is what it is, meet up see if you both get along and like each other's vibe. I guess she likes a calm relaxed guy, not someone highly strung. Then you both see if you can have a good arrangement between each other.

Just message her.

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[Rogeryou]

Not just the night, you can go out on dates, walk holding hands, the whole thing.

Just like having a part time GF.

I'm single so I don't care if anyone sees me. I just don't want my other SB to catch me. Especially when I told her I'm with family for Easter.

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Hahaha well done that’s half the fun, juggling!

[Sibon]

should be that way and it's getting expensive going to brothels for shitty services...people who can afford just go to this route of SA/SB or whatever you want to call it..more fun and enjoyable night.

It's not as simple as you think.

SA/SB route could be more expensive and messy than going to see a ML/WL. Not everybody can be as lucky as Rogeryou who could get almost free or as cheap as $100 a meet. He explained that he had invested a lot of time and money in cultivating the girls.

I have an account with seeking but haven't decided to pay up as a full member yet.

I like the simplicity of going to a parlour. I know the girl wants my $170 for the hour and the girl knows I want what's between her legs. I don't have to pretend to bring her to a cafe to sweet talk her into surrounding herself to my perversion. I don't have the time and the emotional stomach for it.

Through patience and careful selection you could get quality girls among the MLs. I just had a wonderful time with my regular ML's gorgeous house mate in a shop this afternoon.

However it's good to read here that there are so many successful liaisons with SA & SB. I'm happy for you brothers and keep it up.

[GoldfishMan]

You can with the professional SBs, like the one's with premium membership. You just don't know how many other guys they're doing BBFS with.

Taiwanese girls can eat a lot OMG. Had a good BBQ session today.78990

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I was referring to the SD side, not the SB. Is it possible for a single SD to keep it going without strings attached?

We've already witnessed 2 single SDs on here eventually giving up the game to go into a full relationship with their ex-SBs. All good if that's what you're after, but if we're going to compare sugar dating with punting, you'd have to avoid this if you want to keep fucking different girls all the time through sugar dating.

Think we can learn a few things here. I wouldn't tell an SB I was single, to start with. Once they know that you're single, they'd think that they could have you all to themselves if they turned up the charm a few notches. And they shouldn't be put off by you being attached, that's all part of the game anyway.

Second, I think you must be prepared to get out of a relationship right when it feels like it is at its best. It's a honey trap, what can I say.

Anyway, all good if you are after a relationship, just go with the flow.

[VioletH]

Counting you and juscruisin, that’s already 2 bros now going into proper relationships from there SB arrangements. This is like a social experiment: is it really possible to continue having NSA relationships when you and the girls are all single?
Starting to think it’s not likely.

Hi Goldfishman,
This is Violet, I am Juscrusin58's partner.
With your question, I guess it comes down to what you are both looking for.
If you want to stay single look for girls that aren't looking for an exclusive arrangement.
Both Rob and I were open to the possibility of this going further, and for about 2 yrs we denied what we were actually feeling for each other until circumstances sort of pushed us closer together.
I would never suggest any of you guys should go one way or the other, just do what you are happy with.
We have strong feelings for each other and I dont care he is 30+ years older than me,,,, we were meant to be.
Love reading what you guys have to say.
Kisses to you all

[apokalypse]

I like the simplicity of going to a parlour. I know the girl wants my $170 for the hour and the girl knows I want what's between her legs. I don't have to pretend to bring her to a cafe to sweet talk her into surrounding herself to my perversion. I don't have the time and the emotional stomach for it.

Through patience and careful selection you could get quality girls among the MLs. I just had a wonderful time with my regular ML's gorgeous house mate in a shop this afternoon.

However it's good to read here that there are so many successful liaisons with SA & SB. I'm happy for you brothers and keep it up.

everyone is different...everyone went to brothel for a release but many times just want more than that. watched alot of SB interviews they saying just more than sex and find it bs but as time goes on i find it true. Money can buy and richest able to buy...i believe for people in here about 400-500 price mark is lowest tier on the market while high tier 1k and over for CEO's?

happy for you guys.

[Riff888]

I was referring to the SD side, not the SB. Is it possible for a single SD to keep it going without strings attached?

We've already witnessed 2 single SDs on here eventually giving up the game to go into a full relationship with their ex-SBs. All good if that's what you're after, but if we're going to compare sugar dating with punting, you'd have to avoid this if you want to keep fucking different girls all the time through sugar dating.

Think we can learn a few things here. I wouldn't tell an SB I was single, to start with. Once they know that you're single, they'd think that they could have you all to themselves if they turned up the charm a few notches. And they shouldn't be put off by you being attached, that's all part of the game anyway.

Second, I think you must be prepared to get out of a relationship right when it feels like it is at its best. It's a honey trap, what can I say.

Anyway, all good if you are after a relationship, just go with the flow.Yeah I agree, this is definitely not for the guys who fall in love with WLs all the time.

The only way to avoid feelings as a SD is to see as many girls as possible and maybe having a cut-off period of say, 3 to 5 months.

But I love longer term connections plus it's quite easy for the girls to see I'm single when they come to my place and see the Japanese whiskey and Grey Goose in the freezer [emoji23]

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[GoldfishMan]

Yeah I agree, this is definitely not for the guys who fall in love with WLs all the time.

The only way to avoid feelings as a SD is to see as many girls as possible and maybe having a cut-off period of say, 3 to 5 months.

But I love longer term connections plus it's quite easy for the girls to see I'm single when they come to my place and see the Japanese whiskey and Grey Goose in the freezer [emoji23]

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12-yo Hibiki? Those are worth a fortune now that they’ve stopped making them!

[xboyx]

Long time lurker first time poster. These sugarbabe threads are awesome. It’s opened up a whole new world! So where to start. Below are four girls I’ve met so far and I’ll refer to them with the first initial of their name.

B: 22 tall great body b cup cute face. She was my first one. Met in a hotel spent 4 hours. Bbfs and she only wanted $300. Awesome time and I’ve seen her again. She’s also coming over in a few weeks to stay over. She’s not studying but works at her mums work part time.

Z: 25 half Aussie half African. Super hot. We banged bb then put a dom on to blow my lid in her. She’s not on the pill. We did drinks then went back to hers. Paid her $500. Saw her a second time and she agreed to $400. Bb again in heaps of positions. Oh and she squirts! First time made her cum once this time 3 times! And she squirted each time! Works in the same industry as me lol. But she does this for extra cash and fun. She’s also a d grade celebrity wanna be haha. She’s applying to be on a new dating show. If she gets in I’ll update this thread.

J: 22 Aussie girl. Slim hot and small boobs. She’s a uni student studying science. We went for drinks then back to mine. All up 4 hours easy. She wanted $500. Bbfs and cip. Heaps of fun in bed. She said that was the first time she’s done bbfs and took a load with anyone from the site. I kinda believe her because she called next day to check if I was clean haha. Will def see her again. But she’s heaps flaky on text.

C: 19 uni student blonde blue eyes c cup. Great body nice shaped ass! She’s the hottest so far. Had drinks for two hours then back to hers for two hours. Again bbfs and cip! She came twice I think but she seemed to really enjoy her self. We fell asleep with her snuggling. She’s coming over again in to weeks. And she only asks for $300. Again a bit flaky on text but she’s my fav so far.

I’m done with massage shops, brothels and randoms on e&b. This is just too much fun!

awesome man

are you first timer to this sugarbaby thing? I've never tried it before and tempting to try

is it seeking.com site that you're using?

I've found some girls on this site that seems attractive, but their profile say they're after "luxury lifestyle" and want to be spoiled. Should I avoid this type of girls? Or they may say they're after "luxury" and "spoiled" but $300-$500 ppm still do?

[leisurelarry]

Hi Guys, interesting thread I have never tried a SB before but signed up to SA recently. Is it normal to agree on an initial paid coffee meet as an introduction? If so what would be a reasonable amount? I kind of get the impression from reading here that most guys expect it to be free, and if things go further then pay the PPM amount is negotiated. I offered this girl $250 to meet for coffee and she was super keen, which makes me think maybe that's way too generous. I haven't met her yet.

I saw earlier in this thread one girl asked a guy for a $200 cover for Uber, since the date was just dinner and didn't go beyond that. To me this is just girls being subtle by saying its for an Uber, I don't think she is implying she is actually going to travel $200 worth of Uber. Men are a little bit more direct in their communication. I thought this was quite harmless on her part and not trying to be sinister, she is just asking to be reimbursed for her time. It's almost like some private escorts describe their rates as gifts so it sounds less transactional.

[RLC]

Tried a few times on the GC. Maybe just my luck but all wannabe influencers who value themselves too highly to the extent they believe that their mere presence in your life is worth and arm and a leg and anything else is worth all the gold in Fort Knox.

[Riff888]

12-yo Hibiki? Those are worth a fortune now that they’ve stopped making them!Oh I would love that but no, just this one.

I've been getting into Ratu Spiced Rum from Fiji lately, really smooth.79013

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[GoldfishMan]

Oh I would love that but no, just this one.

I've been getting into Ratu Spiced Rum from Fiji lately, really smooth.79013

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Don’t have a taste for rum.
I’m really regretting downing all those bottles of hibiki 12-yo I got from duty free years ago. I didn’t even think they tasted really good!
Jamesons my poison right now for smooth whiskey.

[Riff888]

Don’t have a taste for rum.
I’m really regretting downing all those bottles of hibiki 12-yo I got from duty free years ago. I didn’t even think they tasted really good!
Jamesons my poison right now for smooth whiskey.Yeah I love the Irish whiskey.

I remember having that with a Japanese girl in 2017, she loved it as well.

There was a point a few years ago where you couldn't find a bottle of Japanese whiskey and when you did find them, they were thousands.

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[apokalypse]

Gold Coast is a gold mine if you know what you are doing.

Gc many times and tried to find good services for one off thing but cant find it.

[apokalypse]

I've found some girls on this site that seems attractive, but their profile say they're after "luxury lifestyle" and want to be spoiled. Should I avoid this type of girls? Or they may say they're after "luxury" and "spoiled" but $300-$500 ppm still do?

Just have ago and be straight what u want and what they want... knowing urself.

[heianth]

I think it's been 30 days (of 90) into my premium membership.

I won't bother going into stats for now but it requires you to cultivate relationships. You will message some really prompt SBs and want to meet up but disappear on you. You will meet some SBs for coffee and still disappear on you. You will also meet some that just want to go straight into the boom boom. You will also meet some really authentic characters that have a great life ahead where you can be a silent contributor to their success. It sure has tested my mental resilience.

(Maybe I am just doing something wrong haha)

I'd liken this experience to home cooked meals vs buying take out. Home cooked requires more from yourself to source the ingredients and recipe etc but it can turn out really well (and cheaper vs) take out which can sometimes be a cookie cutter approach. But its no fuss and you know what you are getting yourself into.

Positive or negative experience at the end of the 90 days. I can at least say I've experienced it.

[Blue007]

Long time lurker first time poster. These sugarbabe threads are awesome. It’s opened up a whole new world! So where to start. Below are four girls I’ve met so far and I’ll refer to them with the first initial of their name.

B: 22 tall great body b cup cute face. She was my first one. Met in a hotel spent 4 hours. Bbfs and she only wanted $300. Awesome time and I’ve seen her again. She’s also coming over in a few weeks to stay over. She’s not studying but works at her mums work part time.

Z: 25 half Aussie half African. Super hot. We banged bb then put a dom on to blow my lid in her. She’s not on the pill. We did drinks then went back to hers. Paid her $500. Saw her a second time and she agreed to $400. Bb again in heaps of positions. Oh and she squirts! First time made her cum once this time 3 times! And she squirted each time! Works in the same industry as me lol. But she does this for extra cash and fun. She’s also a d grade celebrity wanna be haha. She’s applying to be on a new dating show. If she gets in I’ll update this thread.

J: 22 Aussie girl. Slim hot and small boobs. She’s a uni student studying science. We went for drinks then back to mine. All up 4 hours easy. She wanted $500. Bbfs and cip. Heaps of fun in bed. She said that was the first time she’s done bbfs and took a load with anyone from the site. I kinda believe her because she called next day to check if I was clean haha. Will def see her again. But she’s heaps flaky on text.

C: 19 uni student blonde blue eyes c cup. Great body nice shaped ass! She’s the hottest so far. Had drinks for two hours then back to hers for two hours. Again bbfs and cip! She came twice I think but she seemed to really enjoy her self. We fell asleep with her snuggling. She’s coming over again in to weeks. And she only asks for $300. Again a bit flaky on text but she’s my fav so far.

I’m done with massage shops, brothels and randoms on e&b. This is just too much fun!

Any tips or advice you can offer? I have been struggling to get any results.

[heianth]

Any tips or advice you can offer? I have been struggling to get any results.Where are you struggling? With the initial message or ongoing engagements etc? I was told to be patient as the girls get 100s of messages a day so may take time respond to you - sometimes it's not instant.


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[Sibon]

I've paid up last night to become a full member after having an account with Seeking for several months.

I have 18 replies so far. I took pains for my profile photos. I think I put up 8 of them. I did it in a studio with a view to impress. I styled it up wearing a hat, wig, sunglasses etc. I was gentlemanly when I sent my messages to them. I mentioned nothing about sex and appeared to be disinterested in it.

So far 3 girls want $600 plus inclusive of sex. But I could get better looking and willing MLs for FS for $170.

Like all things else everyone will have a different experience in it.

[BerasAsing]

Thought better of this post.

[GoldfishMan]

I have not read this whole thread but I’m starting to become interested in being a SD since I already spend about $2-3 K a month in shops and enjoy a lot more about being with a woman than simply fucking her.

Since I am prepared to make my multi-hour shop visits during slow periods and because the girls I like also like me as a laid-back and undemanding customer my average per hour cost seems to be around $120-150 when discounts and special arrangements are taken into consideration. However, the boss at one shop recently lectured me that they were offering a ‘fuck service’ not a ‘friend service’ and I started to feel unwelcome there despite the thousands I’d been spending and the good times all round with the girls (I thought). At another shop a very lovely lady I was spending a lot of time with said she was feeling guilty taking my money for so many hours with so little fucking and strongly encouraged me to think about finding a girlfriend - she ever offered to introduce me to some non- or ex- WL friends of hers.

My question is if you committed to an allowance of $2,000 per month for a sugar baby in Sydney how much time could you reasonably expect in return. Including play-time and sleeping overnight time? It’d get me about 12 hours over two nights in the shops i like. Which ain’t that much really.

Think the problem here is you’re coming at this from a punting perspective. You then try to breakdown everything into per dollar mileage.

[Sibon]

I have not read this whole thread but I’m starting to become interested in being a SD since I already spend about $2-3 K a month in shops and enjoy a lot more about being with a woman than simply fucking her.

Since I am prepared to make my multi-hour shop visits during slow periods and because the girls I like also like me as a laid-back and undemanding customer my average per hour cost seems to be around $120-150 when discounts and special arrangements are taken into consideration. However, the boss at one shop recently lectured me that they were offering a ‘fuck service’ not a ‘friend service’ and I started to feel unwelcome there despite the thousands I’d been spending and the good times all round with the girls (I thought). At another shop a very lovely lady I was spending a lot of time with said she was feeling guilty taking my money for so many hours with so little fucking and strongly encouraged me to think about finding a girlfriend - she ever offered to introduce me to some non- or ex- WL friends of hers.

My question is if you committed to an allowance of $2,000 per month for a sugar baby in Sydney how much time could you reasonably expect in return. Including play-time and sleeping overnight time? It’d get me about 12 hours over two nights in the shops i like. Which ain’t that much really.

SD may be your thing if you desire lunches, shopping and walks on the beach with a sugar baby. Sad to say the ML however she may like you will have not have the time and inclination for you outside the shop hours.

From the replies I've got from the sugar babies for $600 up of sex for 2 or 3 hours $2000 won't go too far. Of course it's the initial price they put up which you could bargain down.

There are also incidental costs such as fine wine, fine dining, expensive gifts and a room in a classy hotel that the sugar baby asks for

[vitrium]

The SD experience is only worth the investment if you are already spending a decent amount of money on punting, but plan on moving away from shop service to something more private/intimate.

Once you calculate the cost both in time and money (subscriptions, paying for dates, gifts, donations, uber fares, hotels etc) you would need to be spending probably over 2k-ish per month on punting already, before you are at break-even with SBs.

This is a very "transactional" way of looking at it. I know some guys want a more intimate experience. But at that point, you're better off using dating apps or sites, and getting a gym membership. You'll probably be happier and have a much fuller wallet at the end of it.

[xboyx]

Yeah first timer. Never knew about it until BennyB posted this. Riff and the others have posted really helpful stuff. But I find most girls put it out there they want the big bucks but when it comes down to the deal are far way more reasonable. Also the girls that want over the top prices just be polite and move on. Don’t waste your time on them. There are so many beautiful young girls who are down to earth and just want some fun. You just have to be patient and don’t worry about being rejected. Also be really friendly polite and have a decent photo that goes a long way. Also filter out the pros and con artists. Once you find the genuine ones it’s awesome. Not for everyone because it’s a bit of effort but really rewarding. I’m not saying anything new here just what the other bros have been saying. But I can’t reiterate enough don’t treat them like hookers. That will get you know where fast.

thanks, your answers help.

I can't do long dates or sleep over. Perhaps I'll see if I can find some girls who like to meet up quickly and move onto the sex. I wonder if there're girls are open to such time-poor men

[Riff888]

A girl I was seeing a while back Anastasia Baby or something like that, she changes her username a bit.

She said there's a network of SBs who have a Telegram or WhatsApp group warning of dodgy SDs. So they must be reviewing SDs as well.

It's interesting, I wonder how they connect with each other.

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[heianth]

A girl I was seeing a while back Anastasia Baby or something like that, she changes her username a bit.

She said there's a network of SBs who have a Telegram or WhatsApp group warning of dodgy SDs. So they must be reviewing SDs as well.

It's interesting, I wonder how they connect with each other.

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I would be surprised if there ISN'T a forum (or medium) for SBs (and SWs in that same respect) where they discuss us the same way we discuss them lol.

[Riff888]

I would be surprised if there ISN'T a forum (or medium) for SBs (and SWs in that same respect) where they discuss us the same way we discuss them lol.Yes you're right.

They have a black list as well.

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[toto]

A girl I was seeing a while back Anastasia Baby or something like that, she changes her username a bit.

She said there's a network of SBs who have a Telegram or WhatsApp group warning of dodgy SDs. So they must be reviewing SDs as well.

It's interesting, I wonder how they connect with each other.

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is she the one who lived in Bali before? mixed italian? im talking to her on SA, any insight is appreciated :)

[Sibon]

After some glowing reports of easy finds in Seeking.com for someone who just become a paid member since last Saturday here's my takes:

1. An very plain skinny Asian chick with little dress sense and make up want $500 PPM even for the first meeting. No intimacy until she is comfortable with it. This is laughable having able to enjoy the benefit of going into a room with a nice ML and our lips will lock situation for $170 of FS.

2. I met a 19-year-old overseas Uni student today. I thought first introductory meeting was free. But she asked for a $100 for the hour meet. She is trying to be independent and I'm fine with her request. Henceforth it's $170 for 2 hours of lunch and chat. She is cute and slim and easy on the eyes. I might do it. But then there is also the $170 an hour full FS with a gorgeous ML which I would not forsake. And how much conversation I could have with a 19-years-old? She is an English major and I've read enough English literature books to have a decent exchange with her.

I think if you want sex going the ML/WL route is the quickest and cheapest but you have to try a number of girls to sort out the apple from the oranges. I've invested enough money and time to narrow it down to 3 MLs which will guarantee me satisfaction every time.

[GoldfishMan]

Reposting this here:

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Yeah right, bump it up to a $480 outlay for a free fuck to fly her to you with hotel paid up. WTF, you put her up in a Best Western or something? And she gonna do it with you BBFS because you turned on the charm 100% on SA. Laughable, dude.

Look bro, let's not go into the details. I don't think you can afford it. I enjoy the fantasy stories as much as the next guy. It's like FOC penthouse letters... keep it up.

I'm personally still scratching my head what exactly is your motive. It's blindingly obvious you're cooking up stories, but what is your end game?You're not selling anything.

Maybe you're just Zoo (or someone like him) and he's somehow come up with a frickin' massive Opus that has caught the imagination of every needy bro on this forum? Maybe....
There's there's a stack of guys on here getting into the Sugarbabe scene and I'm pleased for them. Yes it's more work, but it is for the guys who genuinely enjoy the company of a woman beyond the fucking and who, for their own private reasons, don't want an affair, or a girlfriend or a permanent partner.

__________________________________________________ _____

Sugarbabes, for many men, are that something romantic in-between. And for many women who are Sugarbabes, we play an equally important role in their lives - company, affection, a mature man to connect with, better quality sex, better quality experiences and companionship without a relationship. To succeed long term you have to like women. In fact I would say you have to love them. Love talking to them, charming them, seducing them, being with them.

For you - I'd say stick with shops and brothels. It's the fish and chips of this industry, it obviously works for you and there's nothing wrong with it. I endorse them for many reasons.

I like to eat something else besides fish and chips every day. And I do.
Wow, I’m flattered. That’s a lot of effort you put in there taking what I wrote in another thread and putting it all here. WTF, I’m like a crucified pig out there for all to see and shame. Woe is me!

What evs… I’m 80% smashed writing this. Like I said , keep up the penthouse letters. It’s great entertainment!

[Riff888]

Yeah, fiction must be a TNT requirement [emoji1787]

Go back to your SBs Benny, you spend way too much time here [emoji1787]

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[GoldfishMan]

Yeah, fiction must be a TNT requirement [emoji1787]

Go back to your SBs Benny, you spend way too much time here [emoji1787]

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Nah bro, I reckon he writes his forum posts while Pepe-le-pew-ing them, for greater efficiency. Either that or he’s harvesting stories from TNT and channeling them here.

[Eeessyttyy]

Question for the married guys that are in this SD game, a few have mentioned putting up goof profile pics.... are you recognisable in your profile pic?
I'm assuming the hits would be less if you simply put up a body shot, as the girls will want to know what you look like eg face.

[Sibon]

Question for the married guys that are in this SD game, a few have mentioned putting up goof profile pics.... are you recognisable in your profile pic?
I'm assuming the hits would be less if you simply put up a body shot, as the girls will want to know what you look like eg face.

I wore sunglasses, hat, wig, costumes etc. in my profiles. I photographed them in a studio. I put 8 profile photos up.

Paid member since last Saturday and I've got 43 replies. The only problem I'm not prepared to go for $600 ppm. If not I've already bedded a few girls. They are very direct. For $600 it's wine and dine then sex in a hotel or my place. But the young beautiful Chinese MLs have spoilt me as I can have an hour of FS for $170.

Although I have my parents' genes to thank for I think it's more due to my skills as a professional photogrpaher. I shot the photos over a period of time and used to put them up in my Instagram. But I attracted the wrong crowd e.g. overseas Chinese students in USA, Taiwan girls etc. All too far away from Australia.

[warwick1]

The plane! The plane!...Welcome to Fantasy Island..........

[cvnt]

I wore sunglasses, hat, wig, costumes etc. in my profiles. I photographed them in a studio. I put 8 profile photos up.

Paid member since last Saturday and I've got 43 replies. The only problem I'm not prepared to go for $600 ppm. If not I've already bedded a few girls. They are very direct. For $600 it's wine and dine then sex in a hotel or my place. But the young beautiful Chinese MLs have spoilt me as I can have an hour of FS for $170.

Although I have my parents' genes to thank for I think it's more due to my skills as a professional photogrpaher. I shot the photos over a period of time and used to put them up in my Instagram. But I attracted the wrong crowd e.g. overseas Chinese students in USA, Taiwan girls etc. All too far away from Australia.


Totally agree with the $170 FS , less drama and no wasting of time . I had a girl from SA (M - Filo32 ) requesting $1k per week and platonic LOL

[Rookiestones]

Although I have my parents' genes to thank for I think it's more due to my skills as a professional photogrpaher. I shot the photos over a period of time and used to put them up in my Instagram. But I attracted the wrong crowd e.g. overseas Chinese students in USA, Taiwan girls etc. All too far away from Australia.

Sibon, you're a professional photographer? I would have thought guys like you will easily attract girls? Especially if you can offer free shoots for fun or build their portfolios etc? Surely there's enough local talents to hook up with?

[Rookiestones]

You can blur your face, or crop the photo.

Don’t go in with no pics - that's creepy.

And be prepared to show yourself at some point to them. How could you expect them to relate to you otherwise?
Decent advice. Thanks Benny

[Sibon]

Sibon, you're a professional photographer? I would have thought guys like you will easily attract girls? Especially if you can offer free shoots for fun or build their portfolios etc? Surely there's enough local talents to hook up with?

Yep. I've shot hundreds of them: Italian, French, German, South American, Canadian, Napalese etc.

But I only have 24 hours a day and also need to make some money to pay rent and to mamasans.

Unless you have a passion for visual art, there are better and easier ways to make some money.

[Joe1956]

Well I’m at a loss.
I have done some homework
I signed up for Plenty of Fish the same day I signed for Seeking.
One free, the other over $200 for the first month
Same pics. Same opening statements.
No, I didn’t target 20yos. I’m 60ish so I went for 35-45.
I’ve met up with 3 from POF. None from Seeking.
You guys work it out.

[Sibon]

Well I’m at a loss.
I have done some homework
I signed up for Plenty of Fish the same day I signed for Seeking.
One free, the other over $200 for the first month
Same pics. Same opening statements.
No, I didn’t target 20yos. I’m 60ish so I went for 35-45.
I’ve met up with 3 from POF. None from Seeking.
You guys work it out.

You should wait for Seeking to offer you Introductory Discount. I got 30 days membership for less than $80.

It also depends on your profile photos and your self-introduction.

[treason]

Long time lurker and first time poster...i've managed to cultivate a SB in every city I spend a lot of time in.

Just finishing up a trip to Malaysia. The sugar baby I had here unfortunately found a boyfriend who she loves since we last met. So no more kissing or blowjobs. And I have to use condoms to fuck her. These were her rules...box of condoms remain unopen as I write this. I went down on her and gave her a few o's before sliding it in. She was as tight as I remember when I first fucked her pre-COVID. Had to fuck her slow and control the tempo so I wouldnt shoot off too quickly. Gave her a few more o's before I shot a small load outside on her stomach. i secretly shot a few controlled loads inside. She wouldnt let me CIP because of bf...go figure. Love = no kissing, bj or CIP...but okay raw...Feel sorry for the bf. This disgusting middle aged man is fucking her raw behind his back. To make up to him, I bought her some Victoria's secret lingerie "for him". Of course I help her pick it and peeled it off her smooth skin first....I really should look for a another SB. If she wasn't skinny, have C cup natural boobs and a really tight pussy, I would move on.

Coming back to Melbourne now to my defacto SB. This one also thinks kissing is too personal but in the heat of the moment she opens up. My Melbourne SB is really wild at times, into choking and puts a butt pug in for me when she gets too wet and I want her tighter. I need to buy her larger butt plugs to expand her hole. She wont give me her brown starfish at this point because i am too thick. can't wait to dump a few days load in her on Friday.

Looking to go back to Jakarta soon. My SB there is an influencer. Really wild unrestricted sex...no holes barred

Best part about being moderately wealthy and being able to travel now covid is over is all the pussy. Life is good.

[gthgrt]

Well I’m at a loss.
I have done some homework
I signed up for Plenty of Fish the same day I signed for Seeking.
One free, the other over $200 for the first month
Same pics. Same opening statements.
No, I didn’t target 20yos. I’m 60ish so I went for 35-45.
I’ve met up with 3 from POF. None from Seeking.
You guys work it out.


You should wait for Seeking to offer you Introductory Discount. I got 30 days membership for less than $80.

It also depends on your profile photos and your self-introduction.

You missed the point. He says he's having better success with POF. Why would he bother with SA at any price?

[apokalypse]

Long time lurker and first time poster...i've managed to cultivate a SB in every city I spend a lot of time in.

Just finishing up a trip to Malaysia. The sugar baby I had here unfortunately found a boyfriend who she loves since we last met. So no more kissing or blowjobs. And I have to use condoms to fuck her. These were her rules...box of condoms remain unopen as I write this. I went down on her and gave her a few o's before sliding it in. She was as tight as I remember when I first fucked her pre-COVID. Had to fuck her slow and control the tempo so I wouldnt shoot off too quickly. Gave her a few more o's before I shot a small load outside on her stomach. i secretly shot a few controlled loads inside. She wouldnt let me CIP because of bf...go figure. Love = no kissing, bj or CIP...but okay raw...Feel sorry for the bf. This disgusting middle aged man is fucking her raw behind his back. To make up to him, I bought her some Victoria's secret lingerie "for him". Of course I help her pick it and peeled it off her smooth skin first....I really should look for a another SB. If she wasn't skinny, have C cup natural boobs and a really tight pussy, I would move on.


im amazed you able to do it..i could have walked away and never see her again..

[Riff888]

Having checked out Plenty of Fish again at your suggestion Joe I could not find a single girl under the age of 30 that I would look twice at if I saw them in a bar. Mostly very large, unattractive older women. So not sure what you have managed to find, but looking forward to hearing more.

If anything, I hope they are bait and switches.I agree with Benny on this one.

POF had nothing but disaster stories for me a few years back.

Mostly where they would use photos from 20 years ago. Plus I don't go for women close to my age.

CMB or Coffee Meets Bagels has higher quality Asian girls but there again, most women on that platform would not go for guys 10+ years older than them.

A 30 to 40+ age gap is fine with Seeking.com. This is also not uncommon for girls from SE Asia like Thai, Indo and Filo girls.

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[GoldfishMan]

I left her an envelope with $400 under the pillow. Plus the dinner and drinks and for five hours (half in bed) it was $520 all up - good value I think.
Under the pillow, just like how the tooth fairy left me a fiver for my front left tooth when I was 6. Only difference was my tooth fairy didn't leave it for me in an envelope. Guess she didn't have any pockets to keep a crisp buff envelope to put the money in.

You always carry around envelopes to put money in? Or did you ransack her home as she was sleeping for an envelope to put the money in? I can just picture in my mind a naked hairy guy rummaging through a hottie's home for an envelope while she was sound asleep, bundle of cash in one hand going "dagnab it where's an envelope when you need one??".

Still think you're Zoo and this whole setup, BennyB et al, is your Magnum Opus. You write well, but sometimes too much detail can lead to some unwanted reality creeping into the fantasy.

[dodgybastard2]

Monkeys and peanuts. The cheap seats do draw a crowd.

Let me guess... the price of admission for the better seats is the cost of the sugarbabes ebook or the paid section of the TNT forum?

[dodgybastard2]

There's nothing to pay to get into the Sugarbabe forum on TNT.

Why don't you share your Sugarbabe punting experiences on here with us?

But there is a paid section right?

I do like what BennyB has posted about Sugarbabes. However, given how many times BennyB has referenced the ebook and the TNT forums, I can't help but to feel that BennyB is pushing an agenda here.

Either drop the promotional stuff or if you have an affiliation with another forum or if you get a commission from the ebook, be upfront about that.

[Rookiestones]

You’ve got to love girls from country NSW.

Browsing Seeking on Wednesday and found a little blonde, size 8 cutie with some attractive tatts, C cups and a light tan.

Fresh out of uni and working an entry level job. All her bfs have been tradies and she has a gf with an older SD who seems to love it and so she wanted a taste of more experience and maturity too.

Took her out for a spontaneous light dinner and a couple of cocktails ($120) and then she invited me back to hers after I suggested it was either that or we meet up again in a couple of weeks.

It all flowed like a tinder date - making out on her sofa until progressing to the bedroom. She was very sensual, loves to kiss and be touched. She fucked me bareback twice. Her blowjob was on the lighter side but very good and she made a good effort to deep throat. Highlight was her squirting in my mouth and face when she orgasmed - I love it when they are so fully into it that they let go.

I left her an envelope with $400 under the pillow. Plus the dinner and drinks and for five hours (half in bed) it was $520 all up - good value I think.

Thanks for sharing BennyB. Enjoy reading your reports. When was the $400 agreed? I assume while having light dinner?

Also, does it tend to be a simple negotiation from your experiences? Nothing like a house auction or Asian markets.

[Rookiestones]

Thanks Rookiestones. There's no such thing as a simple negotiation in my experience. Every woman is different.

Without wanting to sound trite, every interaction is "the negotiation" - from how you talk on text, to how you treat her when you are with her, to what the experience is like in the bedroom.

In this case, we did not talk about money at all until just before I left that night. It usually does come up at some point, but I deliberately never bring it up first and wait for them to ask about it. Even if they ask about PPM I confirm it is on the cards, but dependent on the connection. If really pressed and she seems genuine and not just about the money, I will provide a range that I am comfortable with.

But it comes back to making every interaction count and understanding what motivates them to be on the site. If you can't get why they are really on there, then you are in a house auction and will lose or pay a high price.

It was at the end of the evening and she still had not mentioned it when I asked her about it. We were lying in her bed half asleep after sex and I commented that it had not come up. "Oh yeah, I do usually have that conversation first" was her response. I replied that I had prepared something earlier for her. She was asleep when I left and sent me messages in the morning to thank me for it.

You can always stand in the middle of the room and count bills out from your wallet, but unless that's actually her fantasy, you just made her feel more like an escort than she may want to feel.

Thanks BennyB. Sounds like the session went so smoothly that price was the least thing on this SB mind. Can learn from your experience here. Cheers

[exstar]

I follow a similar approach to BennyB, never talk about money (unless she brings it up first), let the connection leading up to the meet guide that amount. Prepare what you think is fair in an envelope, with extra cash in your wallet just in case. When all is done place the envelope somewhere discreet and not directly to her - it just feels more classy that way.

[dotcumdotinyou]

The B stands for bump. Every time this thread falls off the front page benny bumps.

What's wrong with you goldfishman...who doesn't leave home without a stack of envelopes. Its the first thing you check for envelopes (DL, manilla, window faced, secretive), keys, wallet, mobile.

YOU CAN NEVER HAVE ENOUGH ENVELOPES.

[dodgybastard2]

I've been clear I am a member of several forums and I use them for different things.

You're getting my observations here for free. And nothing I write is in conflict with the paid interests of this Forum.



Sure Benny, but as long as I have been reading your posts on this site, you frequently and very conveniently mention the ebook and the paid section of the TNT forum. So yes, while we do get your observations for free, we also get a decent sized serve of advertising as well.

[dodgybastard2]

No one is holding a gun to your head and making you read this thread about Sugarbabe punting.

Fair point, but unfortunately it can be a little hard to avoid the advertising given that you've posted in multiple threads about buying the damn ebook. :grimace:

[hiduba]

I follow a similar approach to BennyB, never talk about money (unless she brings it up first), let the connection leading up to the meet guide that amount. Prepare what you think is fair in an envelope, with extra cash in your wallet just in case. When all is done place the envelope somewhere discreet and not directly to her - it just feels more classy that way.

Good tip, will have to keep this in mind when I do jump in to the bowl

[Rookiestones]

Hahaha. Your wrong,She was actually on time this morning.

Shame that she had to leave for work at 1 if not she would of stayed till 5. But thank god she did leave at 1 coz I was so exhausted in that 4 hrs. F..k me,jus gets better n better every time we meet.

Told her I won’t be able to meet up next week coz I’m going to Melbourne on the weekend. Unbeknown to me she said that she’s also flying down to Melbourne on Monday n that she’s staying with her ex bi friend. The funny thing is that her friend lives not far away from Whr I’m staying only 5-10 mins walk. She told me to meet up with her n her friends. I said I can’t, I can’t get away from the misses. So I said will see.

Hey Shiba, what did you end up doing during your Melbourne trip?

[FatStache]

As someone who doesn't do the SB thing, this thread's interesting.

A bit irrelevant but it reminds me of when I was a virgin and a mate was telling me the hairline difference between punting and picking up at a bar: you're still paying around the same money at the end of the day for the same result. Assuming it's sex you want, the main difference is the effort you put in.

For you SDs, do you put much effort into communicating with your SBs between meetups? The thought is tiring to me.

[heianth]

For you SDs, do you put much effort into communicating with your SBs between meetups? The thought is tiring to me.

What do you see as effort? As in spending time just messaging them in between meets? Or send thought content (eg a long paragraph vs one word response).

I tend to put in as much effort as they do? If they respond with short messages I will generally follow suit etc

Trouble is that you will find you have a plethora of messages now. Snapchat kik telegraph whatsapp I'm just waiting for the day to use a stool pidgeon.

[Shiba]

Hey Shiba, what did you end up doing during your Melbourne trip?

Hi Rook, sry mate haven’t bn on much here lately!! Bn enjoying myself with my SB girl.

Melb trip!! didn’t end up meeting with her n her friend’s. Msg her on SA but no reply n I didn’t hv my burner phone with me so I couldn’t text her. I found out later whn I got back from melb that her SA acc was deactivated, hence she couldn’t reply back. On top of that She type her private no wrongly on my phone lol,so we couldn’t get in contact either way n her work cancels her trip to melb. I thought she ghosted me. I had 2 hrs free to myself too on the Sunday half my luck.

But whn I got back we caught up n the meet was farken amazing. Actually I caught up with her last Friday at the Star n booked a hotel for the night for her. Her friend frm melb came down for the weekend as well. Took both of thm to dinner with my mate,so it was like a double date. SheTold my mate to keep himself busy for 1 hr we need to check in n Fark first,I laugh which we did b4 going to dinner.

Didn’t end up doing a threesome as I told my mate to go for her n I didn’t want my girl to think I was eager as well. Mind u her friend was hot as well. In the morning I caught up with her again over breakfast n we had sex again till we had to check out.

Will be booking a hotel at star every month from now on I think.

By the way she told me that she’ll be getting her own place soon n told me not to book the hotel anymore as I can jus come to her place whn ever. I said sweet!!!!

Hopefully the allowances will stop soon after that n I’ll jus help her out with rent or what ever she needs.

[Rookiestones]

Awesome update Shiba.

Sounds like this is slowly transitioning into a FWB man (with the added bonus of a 2.4.1 package). How did the missus not say anything while you got to play? (you even had time to catch up with your SB in the morning!)

What was the damage to the wallet?

[Shiba]

Awesome update Shiba.

Sounds like this is slowly transitioning into a FWB man (with the added bonus of a 2.4.1 package). How did the missus not say anything while you got to play? (you even had time to catch up with your SB in the morning!)

What was the damage to the wallet?

Thanks Rook…

Yeah it looks like it bro. I guess it’s due to our connection together. I even asked her if it would be a problem for her to date a much older guy!! She replied not really u look younger than ur age, I’ll take that lol mind u I’m in my late 40’s.

Well… she didn’t know I took the day off work for those 2 days. I worked in retail n every fortnight I have to do the weekends n since I’m the manager I jus juggle the shifts according to me. On top of that I run a Bitcoin mining business with a few of my mates. Told her that every month I need to reconcile our miners so I’ll be home late. I’ organize it during the week Whr I have to work the Saturday, so she knows that I’ll be home about 10:30pm. Told her that I’ll be going straight frm work but as a matter of fact she doesn’t know I took the whole day off. Hence the next morning I could see her for about 4-5 hrs. My best mate was laughing when I told him about how I do it. He said that’s some James bond shit happening thr. Lol

Told my SB if she would like to do this every month n she said let’s do it. I guess this will be a monthly thing now.

Oooh btw she ask me to go to SIngapore with her too but told her not a chance. Wtf am I going to say to the missus I told her, she told me to make an excuse that I need to travel for work but missus knows that my line of work doesn’t need me to travel. She was was persistent for me going with her. Damn… she’s a keeper this one.

Damage to the wallet was $1400. That’s including dinner,allowance,Uber,drinks n hotel at the STAR.

[Rookiestones]

Lol love it. When there's a will, there's a way. Have fun and stay safe Shiba.

[Sibon]

Damage to the wallet was $1400. That’s including dinner,allowance,Uber,drinks n hotel at the STAR.

I am envious of you.

$1400 is 8 times 1 hour FS sessions for me with young Chinese MLs.

[Riff888]

RUOK bbbbenny?¿I'm getting the same vibes.
He PMs me from all his accounts.
This account claiming he's Indonesian.

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[Shiba]

Lol love it. When there's a will, there's a way. Have fun and stay safe Shiba.

Cheers bro. Like wise

[Shiba]

RUOK bbbbenny?¿

Bro rando, I’m definitely not Bennyb mate. Don’t even know him from a bar of soap.

[Shiba]

I'm getting the same vibes.
He PMs me from all his accounts.
This account claiming he's Indonesian.

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Hey Riff888, I’m not Bennyb. I don’t even know him, and I am Indonesian.

[Shiba]

Damn… I’m only here to give back to the SA community, since this thread has help me out on how get SB. Not here to sell shit. No offense to Bennyb if he has ulterior motives bn in here that’s his prerogative not mine. So can I just make this clear that I am not Bennyb to everyone that says that I am.

[Shiba]

Is there any reason why you can’t book to go for a conference in Singapore as part of your won career or skills development. And then pretend to have paid for it when actually you are taking cash out to pay for yourself and your SB?

Nah… I can’t bro. Shell want to come. She’s like a bee to a honey pot. She’s one of those possessive woman. 🤦🤦*♂️

[Shiba]

I am envious of you.

$1400 is 8 times 1 hour FS sessions for me with young Chinese MLs.

Hahaha… wasn’t sex for the full time that I was with her bro. Was just enjoying the company n feels like ur on holidays.

[rooter]

WTF is going on with this thread?
So much hate and aggression and macho posturing.
is it some guy plugging an ebook and setting up multiple IDs to do it?
Is it guys trying really hard to convince themselves they are not punters paying prostitutes for sex - by trying really hard not to mention money, and creating designer envelopes full of cash, a whole new vocabulary of "sugarbabes" (prostitutes) and "sugardaddies (punters) instead of admitting to themselves they are "punters/kerb crawlers/johns and in denial about the dirty big pay for sex elephant in the room.
Maybe all or none of the above, but chill out everyone it's all good.
It doesn't matter.
Bottom line is we are all paying for sex, we all try to create the illusion we are not because thats all part of the game and the illusion and the fantasy, but we all know deep down in our hearts that these hot young girls would not even piss on us if we were on fire unless that was a paid for fetish. its all good . Enjoy! and chill out. FFS chill out!

[Riff888]

Post some pictures of where you've been guys. How about a sneaky picture while having dinner with the girl, no need to show her face of course. It's only words like the Bee Gees.

It's all Fantasy Island [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] without the plane or the island.

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[Odrum]

The aggression here is odd. Some guys have actually fucked hot girls for free so none of this is particularly unbelievable. I checked it out and I don't think it's for me. I am married with kids and busy. I don't need the hassle. But if I had more time it sounds fun.

[Rookiestones]

you win some you lose some

this one was ok but I think I have been spoiled

French bird was very quiet and shy. took her a long time to warm up and I was thinking this was going to be a nite of watching Netflix and uber eats before she got comfortable. I probably had too many beers but the time we got down to it. then in the middle she wants to use a condom and I did not have any. so had to hop down to 711 what a fucken nightmare in my jeans and thongs. sex was pretty good but I was not well prepped this time she tasted good and has a good slim body. no condom for the blowjob - great! but only one round then she wanted to sleep. paid her 300 and put her in a uber home. not sure if I'm going round 2 with this one.

Abit of inconvenience in the heat of the moment but overall it sound promising. So what were the cons that made you not consider a second meet?

[RNT4LIFE]

Anyone got SB in Darwin from using SA ? Going up that way soon, and want to try out SA.
Btw, do you Guys use photo on SA ?

[DrBean]

I have been following this thread with great interest. I can see myself being drawn deeper into this world. It sounds as if you came down to earth with that young lady Frank, but do you think you could have handled it differently for a more satisfying outcome?

[levi]

How do you guys actually use SDM website? The site is painfully slow, rarely load properly, need constant refresh, and lately the search function has become very flakey etc. and you have to pay for it! Also the app for it has been banned from Google play and apple for years now.

[Zkkk]

Don't waste your money by paying $120 for tnt. It wont give you anything except most review are alrwady here. If you want to read bb forum its another $100 per month.

[RNT4LIFE]

Loving everyone (specially Benny) for information on SB.
Is there special price or referral code for SA sites ? Do pass it on, I want to become a member !

[RNT4LIFE]

I have not had one recently. Maybe one of the others guys has one. I usually pay my membership three months in advance and often forget to wait for the membership specials. There is usually one every public holiday - Mother's Day, Easter, Valentine's Day etc.

Hey Benny, what does it show on your credit card statement ?

[roloxd]

What browser are you using Levi? I generally used Safari or Chrome. I have an active profile on SDM and no issues at all. Have recently found some good choices on SDM that were not on Seeking. A smaller playing field though.

Hey mate - I've found the pool on Seeking to be way smaller than SDM for some odd reason (doesnt make sense to me either). The profiles on Seeking are also subpar / inactive. Is this just me? Have purchased premium accounts on both sites.

[RNT4LIFE]

Which site is SDM ??

[nxrsr20]

I registered for seeking and already my profile has been suspended, I appear to have put in a reference to sexual activity. Anyone else been sinbinned and how long does it take to get out?

[Rookiestones]

Once your profile is banned you are done.
You can try again with a new profile, email account and credit card.

What about IP address? Correct me if I'm wrong but IP address is based on your device so if they pick up the same IP address, all the above still won't matter and you'll be banned automatically... Right?

[Rookiestones]

I registered for seeking and already my profile has been suspended, I appear to have put in a reference to sexual activity. Anyone else been sinbinned and how long does it take to get out?

Exactly what reference to sexual activity did you mention? ... So others know what to avoid.

[RNT4LIFE]

Signed up few days ago, and it’s going well, got 3 Asian chicks lined up for Perth, melb and bris. Will it work out , not sure, but I’m liking the whole chasing and talking to 18-25 yo.
1 girl arranged for Perth next week, 21 yo Asian, chubby (the type I like) asked for 500-750 for PPM upfront. Lol I was like $400 and drinks first.
It does takes time to build up the connections, very diff to WL and shops.

[Aussieguyinsf]

Don't waste your money by paying $120 for tnt. It wont give you anything except most review are alrwady here. If you want to read bb forum its another $100 per month.

They don’t take criticism very well. Don’t be surprised if you get a message in your inbox.

[nxrsr20]

I only said NSA casual and got binned. What a waste and one way to gouge money.
Well in with a new account and see what happens.

[RNT4LIFE]

Hey Benny, thanks for the advice! Was chatting to to this brissy 36 yo chick. She wanted a $1200 because it’s one off and I’m married.. I was like wth lol.
Are we allow to share SB name here? Arranged a meet up with a 19 melb Asian chick, wondering if anyone seen her ?
It’s actually pretty easy to get girls to meet on the site, I just don’t have the funds lol. I have stopped looking at shop roaster last few days because of seeking.

[Lookha]

What about IP address? Correct me if I'm wrong but IP address is based on your device so if they pick up the same IP address, all the above still won't matter and you'll be banned automatically... Right?

You could try using a VPN. I use ExpressVFN in Australia and overseas.

[nxrsr20]

That’s helpful to know.

1. Did you have that in your profile. If so was it in your profile name or strapline?

2. Did you use that specific language in messaging to someone on the site?

Thanks
It was an attempt to update my description. Oh well, live and learn.

BTW, are girls able to read and respond to messages if they are not premium?

Thanks for all your posts to date too. It has been very informative. I now have to decide if I go premium, a few have caught my eye.

[ML_Lover]

What about IP address? Correct me if I'm wrong but IP address is based on your device so if they pick up the same IP address, all the above still won't matter and you'll be banned automatically... Right?

No, your IP is set by your ISP/Router. Power cycle your router/wifi modem and you will get a new IP.

[local]

What about IP address? Correct me if I'm wrong but IP address is based on your device so if they pick up the same IP address, all the above still won't matter and you'll be banned automatically... Right?

Your IP address is based up your internet provider (and can be tracked).

BUT, each of your individual devices has a fixed MAC address and can also be tracked.

However to track MAC addresses is hard and much more intensive computing power is required, so rarely done as it boggs the systems down.

[RNT4LIFE]

Spoke to a 18yo melb Asian chick. Wanted 1500 for monthly allowance, asked for $500 1st meet instead, let see how that goes. She got a really cute baby face, which I fuking love.

What’s the most you guys pay for a PPM ? I want to get my range correct and not over paid.

[Sibon]

Spoke to a 18yo melb Asian chick. Wanted 1500 for monthly allowance, asked for $500 1st meet instead, let see how that goes. She got a really cute baby face, which I fuking love.

What’s the most you guys pay for a PPM ? I want to get my range correct and not over paid.

I talked to a sugarbaby in Seeking several weeks ago. Initially she wanted $500 ppm. I was honest I told her I couldn't afford her as I only paid $175 for a Chinese girl in a massage parlour. I then forgot about her.

Then a week before she WhatsApp me telling me It's now $200 ppm which included protective sex if I was still interested. I did not take up the offer as I was getting out of Seeking.

I have had ridiculous offer of $500 payment just to have a dinner with a girl. I am neither not that lonely nor desperate.

[GoldfishMan]

I don’t mention I’m married. Strikes about 50% of the population of girls out who have a moment of crisis over it. Ask the one above what being married has to do with meeting you? Presumably you are non judgemental about her fucking for money.

I understand site rules are that you cannot share names.

Also - because everything we write here is accessible by the public because the site lets Google comb the platform, she would be able to find your comments and, if she was pissed with what you wrote, could trace back to you.
You don’t mention you’re married? Surely then having to constantly be on guard to conceal this fact from her would be a huge thorn in your side? Imagine having to lie to not only one side but all sides. Worst thing is if your SB/mistress/side dish doesn’t know your situation and unknowingly messes up your plans. How can that be fun?

I guess you could have a really “open” marriage but still, not being able to let your guard down with the SB must be a real pain. That should be carefree fun, no?

[FatStache]

You don’t mention you’re married? Surely then having to constantly be on guard to conceal this fact from her would be a huge thorn in your side?

I assume he means he doesn't mention it on his profile. It's easier to share that tidbit once you've built some rapport with the girl, rather than let them filter you out before you get a chance to talk to them.

BennyB, do you keep it a permanent secret?

[GoldfishMan]

There’s a really funny old HK movie called “Diary of a Big Man” where the main protagonist is married to 2 women and he’s kept both of them in the dark about his other relationship. It’s bloody hilarious, recommended viewing even if you have to use subs!

[Riff888]

Been off premium SA for awhile before my Indo trip.

My last meet was with Cindy, 29 short Taiwanese girl out at Botany. I wouldn't bother, she seems only interested in big meals and taking home the leftovers.

So one SB has moved in with me but I still can't let go the other who now has completely deleted her SA profile. Looks like I'm back using Dayuse.

So even though I'm not premium and I don't have a profile picture. I keep getting messages. The latest from Chloebabyx 22 gorgeous Asian babe. Has anyone come across her, is she real? I'm tempted to pay the fee just to talk to her 🤣.

I can't read messages anymore, it says upgrade to read.

CaringChick 24 Asian is another one messaging me. I remember she contacted me on my last profile and we moved to talking on Telegram. She's in North Sydney, time poor and asking for $1k PPM, I politely declined.

[RNT4LIFE]

Good stuff Riff888 bro!! So the one moved in with you, is she still on SA ? Is Chloebabyx from syd ? I can have a look, still got 2 weeks on my sub lol
Meeting up with a curvy 20yo African lady in brissy next week. Can’t wait, never been with one before. She was asking $500 to $700 PPM. Lol told her to half it and I will think about it. We now agreed $250 for few hours, and she get to order what ever IRD she wants (business cooperate card) lol win/win for me!

[Riff888]

Good stuff Riff888 bro!! So the one moved in with you, is she still on SA ? Is Chloebabyx from syd ? I can have a look, still got 2 weeks on my sub lol
Meeting up with a curvy 20yo African lady in brissy next week. Can’t wait, never been with one before. She was asking $500 to $700 PPM. Lol told her to half it and I will think about it. We now agreed $250 for few hours, and she get to order what ever IRD she wants (business cooperate card) lol win/win for me!
Thanks mate
Chloebabyx is from Sydney, just not sure whereabouts.
Yes, the girl that moved in deleted her account in December.
That's good negotiation skills. Good luck with her bro, I heard African girls go off.
I was close to trying an African girl at N5 but just couldn't get the timing right.

[Riff888]

Good stuff Riff888 bro!! So the one moved in with you, is she still on SA ? Is Chloebabyx from syd ? I can have a look, still got 2 weeks on my sub lol
Meeting up with a curvy 20yo African lady in brissy next week. Can’t wait, never been with one before. She was asking $500 to $700 PPM. Lol told her to half it and I will think about it. We now agreed $250 for few hours, and she get to order what ever IRD she wants (business cooperate card) lol win/win for me!
Also, you can share username info here.
There are no such rules against it.

[curiousgeorge1023]

Been having so much fun reading on these thread. Actually had to join so I can comment.

Thanks for all the effort @BennyB and also thanks for referring me 😂 Had to use your username as referrer to join the community.

[RNT4LIFE]

Thanks mate
Chloebabyx is from Sydney, just not sure whereabouts.
Yes, the girl that moved in deleted her account in December.
That's good negotiation skills. Good luck with her bro, I heard African girls go off.
I was close to trying an African girl at N5 but just couldn't get the timing right.

180cm, Kenya chick… never been with an Asian guy before.
Lol got to represent, show her what she’s missing!

[RNT4LIFE]

Taking to a “new member”, 20 yo Asian based in melb. Wanted $600 first meet with no sex. Gosh, I’m sure there is some suckers out there willing to pay.
Told her half that price and sex. She said will think about it , as $300 is too shallow for her 😂
Some chicks are in fantasy land if they think they can just take $$ without working for it.
@riff, can’t seem to locate that chloe chick.

[Riff888]

Taking to a “new member”, 20 yo Asian based in melb. Wanted $600 first meet with no sex. Gosh, I’m sure there is some suckers out there willing to pay.
Told her half that price and sex. She said will think about it , as $300 is too shallow for her 😂
Some chicks are in fantasy land if they think they can just take $$ without working for it.
@riff, can’t seem to locate that chloe chick.
Yeah same, I thought she blocked me but could have been a fake account.
There are guys willing to pay big bucks just to hang out with these girls, so that's why a few expect it.

[RNT4LIFE]

I stayed at Echoes last time I was up there with my FWB, it’s a cosy small boutique hotel.
Fuking amazing Benny, your tip from the last few pages really helped. I’m getting the grid of the game now, and getting lot of results. Now I just need to travel interstate and close out the deal.
Melb by far I am getting the most response.

[Rookiestones]

I stayed at Echoes last time I was up there with my FWB, it’s a cosy small boutique hotel.
Fuking amazing Benny, your tip from the last few pages really helped. I’m getting the grid of the game now, and getting lot of results. Now I just need to travel interstate and close out the deal.
Melb by far I am getting the most response.

Hey mate, I think i read that you're married. I assume by dipping into the SD/SB game that you're probably on your mobile phone more due to the interactions/communication. So what application are you using to communicate with the SB? how often? And how have you been keeping it under the radar away from the missus?

[Rookiestones]

No, your IP is set by your ISP/Router. Power cycle your router/wifi modem and you will get a new IP.

Thanks for this ML. I always get mixed up re IP. Didn't know a simple power cycle (admittedly had to google this) is all it takes to change IP address.

[RNT4LIFE]

Hey mate, I think i read that you're married. I assume by dipping into the SD/SB game that you're probably on your mobile phone more due to the interactions/communication. So what application are you using to communicate with the SB? how often? And how have you been keeping it under the radar away from the missus?

I got a work iPhone I use for communication between SB. Mostly on telegram or WhatsApp. WhatsApp message with SB is archived. On top of that, both app will require Face ID to open.
I am using a Mates ( from Canada) pic with a emoji over the face as my profile photo on seeking. I won’t share face pics until i get chatting with them.
From what I gather, most girls are more scared they get found out on seeking than the guys. Hence, they are very discreet about the whole engagement.
I’m on my work phone 24/7, as I am a sales person. So yeh, talk to SB all day long. It actually removed my urge to go to shops…

[exstar]

Melbournes becoming a bit of a bogey city for SBs for me 😂

On my most recent trip had two SBs lined up. First one Eurasian chick and we had lined up dinner/drinks and time at my hotel. She wanted me to arrange the Uber to pick her up, was all good with that she wasn’t too far away. We had kept our comms active and time confirmed, all the way up to the point of picking her up, Uber arrived and waiting, and there was silence.. Uber driver cancelled… she said she wasn’t ready yet and was now ready, so I ordered another one. Same thing, no show and Uber driver cancels. She messages requesting another one, and here I am thinking third time lucky but alas… still a no show! Cut my losses and basically told her off for screwing me around. I mean yes cold feet is natural and understandable but at least have the decency to let me know so I can change plans. Blocked her and went off to see a private off E&B near my place.

Second girl was an Aussie gnd type, really pretty, seemingly nice body and seemed down to earth with the way we chatted. However she was all about discretion and wanted to only meet in my room. That’s usually not my thing as I much prefer to meet outside and build up the rapport- but hey first time for everything right. Asking price was higher than usual but I thought why not she was worth it and she’d make her own way into town.

However the experience itself was awkward overall, it felt a bit forced, I guess because we were meeting directly at my room and we both were nervous despite all the wine we were drinking. The sex itself was awkward too, with the way she dressed I thought she’d be a wild one but it wasn’t the case, she didn’t seem to be into it and I couldn’t help but feel that perhaps she was actually inexperienced in the scene and going through some moral quandaries in her mind.

One thing of note was that she wore a larger cup sized bra to make it look like she was more busty than she really was… wtf I thought it was only Asians that did that!

[RNT4LIFE]

Hey exstae bro, can PM me her username ? Cos I’m meet up with 2 melb Asian ladies soon. Just want to make sure it’s not the same one!

Haha padding is normal I guess on all ladies. I am really into black chicks now, so many to chat. With on the site

[Rookiestones]

I got a work iPhone I use for communication between SB. Mostly on telegram or WhatsApp. WhatsApp message with SB is archived. On top of that, both app will require Face ID to open.
I am using a Mates ( from Canada) pic with a emoji over the face as my profile photo on seeking. I won’t share face pics until i get chatting with them.
From what I gather, most girls are more scared they get found out on seeking than the guys. Hence, they are very discreet about the whole engagement.
I’m on my work phone 24/7, as I am a sales person. So yeh, talk to SB all day long. It actually removed my urge to go to shops…

Nice! Thanks for sharing RNT. Have you notice the change in the SBs when they acknowledge your 1. Asian or 2. Married amongst the causasian, African or Asian SBs? Or that matters little as long as the honey are getting the money.

[Rookiestones]

exstar - sorry to hear about the first experience. What a big let down. How many hours did you spend with the second girl and what amounts did you settle on?

[Rookiestones]

I am really into black chicks now, so many to chat. With on the site

Same. Whats the appeal for you RNT?

I wouldn't mind trying out a black chick or 2 just to tick it off the bucket list.

[RNT4LIFE]

Nice! Thanks for sharing RNT. Have you notice the change in the SBs when they acknowledge your 1. Asian or 2. Married amongst the causasian, African or Asian SBs? Or that matters little as long as the honey are getting the money.

They don’t care if you’re Asian, I think due to kdrama, Most ladies don’t mind asian now a days.

Married, yes, few got upset that I’m married and stopped talking. I have since taken bennys advice, and updated profile as separated.

I will end my sub after this month, it’s a bit expensive for me, but you do get a lot of action if you play the game right. Like you said , it’s About money and honey

[cumquat]

Have my regular Melbourne SB flying up to Sydney next week. She's staying with girlfriends for a few days and then we are going to take a trip to the Blue Mountains for an overnight. Tips on where to stay would be welcome - I've not been up recently.

I'm paying for her return airfare and the accommodation on our little midweek break. That's all she expects. Well that and a two day fuckfest.

I think that is pretty good value - around $6-700 for an overnight trip incl. airfares and two days of sex.


http://www.lovecabins.com.au/Tree-House.aspx

I recommend you take the Treehouse and winter is a better booking option . Very romantic. has a fire . Sunken bath and views too die … couch and other decor a little incongruous … but overall. you
Won’t regret … not cheap Mind .. and that’s the vibe the SB’s like too collect? well from my limited exp . Though haven’t dabbled consciously last 3 years in this realm

[Rookiestones]

Some of the most successful punters I've seen in the Sugarbabe Forum are 30-45 are Asian men.

Re married and cheating - for many of these women, they will fuck you for money but the won't betray the sisterhood. Because it happened to their mother, or they worry it will happen to them. It may not make much sense, but that's where the gridlock is.

Being married myself, I'm intriguing about how SD navigate this topic with their SBs (I noted your response to GoldfishMan around this). So Benny, none of your regular SBs know that you're actively married at all?

[Rookiestones]

I prefer to let them know. I’ve only had one walk and wasn’t comfortable. It’s a risk, but the risk is also on them being on the site too. I prefer them to know because I don’t want to slip up and they get shits I didn’t tell them.

Fair enough point. Thanks smallwang.

[heianth]

I'm in the same boat as smallwang. To be intimate is to be vulnerable. I won't actively talk about my wife but if they ask, I won't lie to them about it. And I want to make sure the SBs are comfortable to proceed. TBH if I am getting the stake at home, why would I look at eating elsewhere.

And in line with what Benny said, I actively avoid SB profiles that are in relationships. Due to being exposed to cheating wives/girlfriends so I rather not be the third party.

[cumquat]

here’s a scenario for those who know .

Just had an awakening And feeling like I’m in an AA kinda space as typing….

I met a couple months ago a very cute late 20’s WL . Initial Thougt was a clear transactional event . Contact /sex/chat=money … the second booking became Sex/chat/food/sex =money

Third meeting no direct money just paid indirect costs = meals , snacks , drinks , cigarettes , coffee machine , other play things .. and so it flows

Now having known her a couple months doesn’t appear to be working in a trad. sense and we’ve had discussions on intimacy, expectations, time together , interest and reciprocity.

So, I find myself two months later been able to see her any much time I like when I am, In the same city , though the last month been averaging 2!days a week

She refers to her place as my home . I am given a key , while I’m in city so can come go as needs. I haven’t paid her any direct cash for more than 5-6 weeks

What’s going on here ? Have I unwittingly reverse engineered an SB/SH tryst ?

Did I get lucky ? Or should I move this across to one of the other maudlin /vaudevillian threads …Honey, I’m dating a (insert title here)

The above is factual

[Rookiestones]

Hi RS - none of them know I am married. That is correct.

I would flip the question around and ask you in return - what is the benefit to you if they know you are married?

I concur. I'd prefer to keep that private as much as practical (or maybe not as heianth pointed out). Without engaging with a SB (..yet) I just assume it'll be a challenge to conceal especially as the relationship with the SB progress overtime.

[cumquat]

I concur. I'd prefer to keep that private as much as practical (or maybe not as heianth pointed out). Without engaging with a SB (..yet) I just assume it'll be a challenge to conceal especially as the relationship with the SB progress overtime.

Compartmentalisation is required . Not all can do this or, can maintain it over time . Though is almost a fundamental in a ‘libertines’ play
Book

I’ve managed to keep or disclose , as I choose , enough details to maintain a
separation , which I feel necessary/appropriate/comfortable to the circumstance.

Don’t matter who it has been or currently is wl /Ml/uberized-sb-Sh same same

[Rookiestones]

here’s a scenario for those who know .

Just had an awakening And feeling like I’m in an AA kinda space as typing….

I met a couple months ago a very cute late 20’s WL . Initial Thougt was a clear transactional event . Contact /sex/chat=money … the second booking became Sex/chat/food/sex =money

Third meeting no direct money just paid indirect costs = meals , snacks , drinks , cigarettes , coffee machine , other play things .. and so it flows

Now having known her a couple months doesn’t appear to be working in a trad. sense and we’ve had discussions on intimacy, expectations, time together , interest and reciprocity.

So, I find myself two months later been able to see her any much time I like when I am, In the same city , though the last month been averaging 2!days a week

She refers to her place as my home . I am given a key , while I’m in city so can come go as needs. I haven’t paid her any direct cash for more than 5-6 weeks

What’s going on here ? Have I unwittingly reverse engineered an SB/SH tryst ?

Did I get lucky ? Or should I move this across to one of the other maudlin /vaudevillian threads …Honey, I’m dating a (insert title here)

The above is factual
Congratulations cumquat! This sounds like a success story to me. Lucky man.

[cumquat]

Congratulations cumquat! This sounds like a success story to me. Lucky man.

Could also be a cluster fuk in the making

But who am I hanging with ? Anyone clarify

B

[Double_Adapter]

This thing about conquests and showing receipts especially in this forum is fucking over rated. It's like being in a pissing competition or comparing dick sizes and squirt strength when at a urinal.
I'm sure everyone has a receipt or two worthy of being shared however this forum has a bunch of jealous and incredulous blue pilled betas and incels that will try to debunk, discredit, question or shoot down the dude with the receipt. Ultimately there's a small percentage of alpha and sigma showpiece guys with the looks, physique, a good mouthpiece, intellect, status, and a brilliant sex game that gets all the spoils (free in aide) that the rest can only dream and fantasize about (and pay for it). It is what it is so get over it and work on yourself and not your selfie.

A great thread with differing and competing opinions....keep up the great work lads!!

[RNT4LIFE]

The whole seeking thing is not for everyone. It can be hard work lol.
On a sidenote, think I will need more super Kamagra.. going be hard keeping up with teens (working on a 19yo) and 20s SB.

[Blue007]

Just wondering do you know any good hotels in the Sydney cbd , that's discrete and have a bar and isn't too expensive.

[RNT4LIFE]

Just wondering do you know any good hotels in the Sydney cbd , that's discrete and have a bar and isn't too expensive.
If you want cbd and discrete, recommend A by Adina or little national. Both check in area is towards higher level of the hotel, which means it’s very private. They both got rooftop bar, very exclusive, I don’t imagine many non hotel guests will be going in there.
Not sure what your budget is, both hotel is consider mid-tier.

[RNT4LIFE]

Mate I hear ya! But if you can lock down these 19-20 year olds it’s worth it. I find they’re very flaky. But I’m willing to put the effort in for the reward haha.
Locked down 19yo French girl for my melb visit, spend like a week chatting on telegram, and she thinks I’m a very sweet guy (lol). Said she’s new to SBing and agree to $200 PPM. Fingers cross I’m not getting cat fished ! Lol
Sidenote, I have to pass on the Kenya girl, as I need to save my energy for melb trip, got 2 SB lined up.

[RNT4LIFE]

Thanks for heads up Benny bro! Not sure how often, she said she’s new…
So for bros who seen 18-19 yo SB, do you ask them for IDs ? Talking to this one SB, she sent over a Photo in school uniform. As attractive as it is.. I want to make sure it’s not illegal.
How do you go about to make sure she’s over 18? Or am I worrying too much ?

[Sibon]

Thanks for heads up Benny bro! Not sure how often, she said she’s new…
So for bros who seen 18-19 yo SB, do you ask them for IDs ? Talking to this one SB, she sent over a Photo in school uniform. As attractive as it is.. I want to make sure it’s not illegal.
How do you go about to make sure she’s over 18? Or am I worrying too much ?

You should be worry. Police conducts sting operation in various sites from time to time.

I came across one suspicious case whom I got to know through Gumtree. She wanted to do a nude shoot and I found out she was only 18.

I ran as fast as my legs could carry me.

[Sibon]

Locked down 19yo French girl for my melb visit, spend like a week chatting on telegram, and she thinks I’m a very sweet guy (lol). Said she’s new to SBing and agree to $200 PPM. Fingers cross I’m not getting cat fished ! Lol
Sidenote, I have to pass on the Kenya girl, as I need to save my energy for melb trip, got 2 SB lined up.

One Asian girl initially asked for $500PPM. I told her I could get a young Chinese ML for full service for $170.

A week or two later she came back with an offer of $200PPM with promise of protective sex in a "room" in Darlinghurst.

I didn't take up the offer as I had regular MLs to go to. I don't want to waste time on duds.

[RNT4LIFE]

Make sure you get in quick. These young ones once they learn their market price will give you the flick. I had one lined up back in Feb. 20 first time on site. Agreed to $300. Bu the time I was free for a meet she was like ummm I’m getting $500 now… 9/10 hottie. Win some you lose some. Good luck!
Lol I think you are spot on bro Small… 19yo profile is now deleted on SA, and she haven’t replied last 2 days. Either some other SD got to her first or cat fish! Damn, lucky got back up plans

[sync3d3d]

Really good insights into this world.
are meets of the range of $200-$300 possible? At this range, seems to be alot of effort potentially.

[Blue007]

Really good insights into this world.
are meets of the range of $200-$300 possible? At this range, seems to be alot of effort potentially.

No. Most of the girl are asking between $500-1000

[Rookiestones]

Question for the SDs who've managed to hook up and punted the SBs, do go bare back or needed to use condom?

[Shiba]

Question for the SDs who've managed to hook up and punted the SBs, do go bare back or needed to use condom?


Hi rookie,

At first we were using condoms n after the 3rd meet she said that we should go BB bcoz she hates using the dom. But we need to get tested first, which we did before our next meet. It’s been BB from thn on now.

[RNT4LIFE]

Dom for me.
However in saying that, 2 SB said ok to raw if we both get tested.
I notice Western syd girls always ask for around 300-400 PPM, and most of them if I counter between 200-250x they will take it.
Lol I should try $150 next…

[RNT4LIFE]

You are trailblazing!
Hey Benny, I wish, it’s just chats so far, I haven’t gone through with it yet. As I don’t want to punt in Syd (better be safe than sorry).

did someone chat to new Asian chick up in Townsville.. apparently ABV, willing to meet up for whatever price I set, she doesn’t want to talk about money as it make her feel like a whore… lol
Im moving my work schedule to go up Townsville end of June.. hope it’s not too late.