Sugarbabes - Sydney, Melbourne and Gold Coast markets

[PaulA]

Does anyone know if you buy a Google Pay card (at Woolies) can you then use this to buy Premium subscription on Seeking? Or is there any other way to buy anonymously? Thanks for any info!

[Nthnrr]

Does anyone know if you buy a Google Pay card (at Woolies) can you then use this to buy Premium subscription on Seeking? Or is there any other way to buy anonymously? Thanks for any info!

I’d be keen to know that too

[Riff888]

The app is free on Android so I don't think those Google Play cards will work. Always used a CC or DC. I don't think the payment description says Seeking though.

[freakymansion]

Hey can I get her details and contact mate?

[Joe1956]

Anyone know Maddison (Cheeky-93) from Sydney? 30 Blonde, tats.

[bodog]

Can you share the profile with me?

[Joe1956]

Cheeky-93
Secret Benifits

[andrewv]

Does anyone know if you buy a Google Pay card (at Woolies) can you then use this to buy Premium subscription on Seeking? Or is there any other way to buy anonymously? Thanks for any info!

I buy VISA or MasterCard gift cards from Coles and they work fine with paying seeking dot com. I usually buy the $250 cards and with the balance (left over), I simply use to buy things at shops. Usually, seeking dot com is around USD $100 per month (they often have discount promotions) which is around AUD $160 t0 $170.

I never use my personal AMEX or credit/debit cards which are in my name and can easily bring trouble if discovered.

Also, I use a made-up yahoo email address with a fake name to register and communicate with the sugar babies.

[Putter]

I use Australia Post credit cards, which you can top up electronically. Though it’s registered under my name, i didn’t have to provide my legit name on seeking. I top it up whenever i need to use it on sites like seeking.

I have to check out the tip on the mastercard/visa gift cards. I didn’t realise they could be used on seeking.

[Khanji1980]

It takes a while and a few questions. You soon learn not to waste time. Be polite but direct. Also to prevent getting kicked off the platforms don’t ask for ppm. Ask for p p m. Space it. Works for me anyway.
‘Regulars’ are worth keeping till you find another better.
Enjoy. There’s plenty out there

I am a long term user of seeking . My advice is to put all your no no in your profile . Mine says specifically, I won’t be paying any advance without meeting first . Filters out 99 percent of them . I have to say , lately the site has become a hub of scammers and losers when it comes to Brisbane and Gold Coast SBs.

[ditchtheboss]

I am a long term user of seeking . My advice is to put all your no no in your profile . Mine says specifically, I won’t be paying any advance without meeting first . Filters out 99 percent of them . I have to say , lately the site has become a hub of scammers and losers when it comes to Brisbane and Gold Coast SBs.

I have had much more success using sugardaddy.com.au instead of seeking. Like it has been said, seeking has become almost useless in my opinion because of the scammers. I also prefer the business model that sugardaddy uses, pay for the credits instead of monthly subscription

[paulgallen]

Looking to use seeking.com , when you send a message to them, how long does it take for them to reply ? And can I see the messages or do I need to be a paid member?

[Riff888]

You need to pay to read and send messages.
Replies depend on the girl, if she takes a long time to get back, she's probably got lots of guys.
I see Daisy is back.
Interesting now that I've been on there for 4 years. The long term girls know the deal and have pretty good PPM prices.
Watch out for the premium girls.

[andrewv]

Having been around seeking dot com for several years, and having done the deed with many girls, from the premium (over $700 per session) to the reasonable ($400 to $500), I can share with you all, with a very high degree with confidence, that the expensive girls are not worth it. In fact, on several occasions the sex was lousy and they made little effort.
Once you see a very good looking girl naked for 3-4 minutes, it makes no difference to your enjoyment if she was a little less attractive.

Seeking dot com has taught me that quality and price are not related in any way. I never pay more than $600, with one exception and that is if she can host (her place where I save $150-$200 on hotel room).

Some girls are looking for $1,200 or even more. They are hitting on loser men who have less brain than cash.

[Nthnrr]

I buy VISA or MasterCard gift cards from Coles and they work fine with paying seeking dot com. I usually buy the $250 cards and with the balance (left over), I simply use to buy things at shops. Usually, seeking dot com is around USD $100 per month (they often have discount promotions) which is around AUD $160 t0 $170.

I never use my personal AMEX or credit/debit cards which are in my name and can easily bring trouble if discovered.

Also, I use a made-up yahoo email address with a fake name to register and communicate with the sugar babies.

Is there any tricks to using these cards?? I bought one (visa from Coles) but can't get it to work??

[andrewv]

Seeking dot com does not work anymore when trying to access it while you have a VPN switched on.

[MindTheGap]

Is there any tricks to using these cards?? I bought one (visa from Coles) but can't get it to work??

Who do you bank with

There’s an easier way

[BobbiBrown]

Who do you bank with

There’s an easier way

I'd love to know!

[peanuty]

I'd love to know as well please

[Nthnrr]

Anyone had any experience with SugarDaddyMeet (SDM)? I signed up to both this and Seeking about a week ago. Have had heaps of replies to girls I messaged on Seeking but not a single one on SDM (the messages haven’t even been viewed). Are they all fake???

[MindTheGap]

Anyone had any experience with SugarDaddyMeet (SDM)? I signed up to both this and Seeking about a week ago. Have had heaps of replies to girls I messaged on Seeking but not a single one on SDM (the messages haven’t even been viewed). Are they all fake???

Both sites are legit. I use both. Have met heaps of girls off SDM

[Nthnrr]

Has anyone found a prepaid card that works for Sugar Daddy that you aren’t required to register your name such as the Australia Post one. The cards from Coles/Woolies work fine for Seeking/SDM but I can’t get them to work for SD.

[linkno2]

Hi guys. Been using Secretbenefits for awhile. Meet alot of chick but recently I can't buy credit anymore, they changed to bitcoin only. Tried to contact the help but no reply. What should i do? Any better or equivalent site?
Thanks in advance

[bummer]

https://xtraclubs.au/. I wonder how a session with an SB there would work out ?

[ditchtheboss]

https://xtraclubs.au/. I wonder how a session with an SB there would work out ?

No need to go there. Just stay in a hotel with a sauna and spa. I have done it plenty of times with SBs and it can be fun, a lot of fun

[local]

No need to go there. Just stay in a hotel with a sauna and spa. I have done it plenty of times with SBs and it can be fun, a lot of fun

The other week with the freezing weather, at a free lunch meet the SB actually mentioned it as she had recently. read about it. We quickly looked it up and went to kmart to get a cheap bikini for her and went.
Was quite interesting and the Bondi Junction one I wont return to as I met to many folks who I knew in the area. Good day, and when I dropped her home, invited in and spent the night.
So for the cost of lunch/bikini and 2 entry is was $120, cheaper than a hotel, and great fun on the spur of the moment.

Green Square when it opens might still be to close to home/know in the area for me, hopefully the next after that will be better.

[smallasian]

The other week with the freezing weather, at a free lunch meet the SB actually mentioned it as she had recently. read about it. We quickly looked it up and went to kmart to get a cheap bikini for her and went.
Was quite interesting and the Bondi Junction one I wont return to as I met to many folks who I knew in the area. Good day, and when I dropped her home, invited in and spent the night.
So for the cost of lunch/bikini and 2 entry is was $120, cheaper than a hotel, and great fun on the spur of the moment.

Green Square when it opens might still be to close to home/know in the area for me, hopefully the next after that will be better.
Did you actually manage to have sex there though? Looking at their social media, it would seem difficult not to get caught...

[local]

Did you actually manage to have sex there though? Looking at their social media, it would seem difficult not to get caught...

That wasn't the reason for going there. That was desert elsewhere.

[MindTheGap]

Yeah I saw this. It’s honestly become a shit show of a site.

I’m finding better luck on RHP

[Johnisfun1969]

Has anyone found a prepaid card that works for Sugar Daddy that you aren’t required to register your name such as the Australia Post one. The cards from Coles/Woolies work fine for Seeking/SDM but I can’t get them to work for SD.

I have used the Australia post gift card in the past. It should work.

[MindTheGap]

Just get a Revolut card. Easy peasy.

[MindTheGap]

Read through this thread from start to finish - we’ll just about. It gets pretty funny with the blow ups in places. Did anyone get the book and can you share it? The site is saying there is a new book out and full of interviews with guys and Sugarbabies. Anyone got it?

[youngheart]

No need to go there. Just stay in a hotel with a sauna and spa. I have done it plenty of times with SBs and it can be fun, a lot of fun

I would luv to find a hotel with sauna and spa and a decent length of time on their dy rate. or even a decent overnight rate.

Any suggestions on the cheaper side ?

There is a real market for a japanese style love hotel/motel with all the room facilities.

[MindTheGap]

Agree love hotels would be ace. Thinking of setting up a franchise?

[MindTheGap]

Anyone know how to get around the seeking selfie verification? You can’t chat to the girls without it nowadays

[blitz]

I would luv to find a hotel with sauna and spa and a decent length of time on their dy rate. or even a decent overnight rate.

Any suggestions on the cheaper side ?

There is a real market for a japanese style love hotel/motel with all the room facilities.
Give this a go.... https://loversden.com.au/lovers-den-potts-point/

[MindTheGap]

Nice one Blitz

I have seen some options pop up on Airbnb if you google "Airbnb love sex kinky accommodation"

[MindTheGap]

Just another shout out to the forum. Does anyone know how to get around the Seeking selfie verification? I don;t use my actual pics on seeking but an AI version of what looks like me.

Does anyone know of how to beat the system? it must be the same for many website that want selfie verification.

[andrewv]

Just another shout out to the forum. Does anyone know how to get around the Seeking selfie verification? I don;t use my actual pics on seeking but an AI version of what looks like me.

Does anyone know of how to beat the system? it must be the same for many website that want selfie verification.

Seeking must be losing a lot of men members because trusting any website to keep your photo confidential is impossible. Most men members have wives/partners and important jobs/businesses that would be damaged if the site gets hacked.

[Riff888]

Seeking must be losing a lot of men members because trusting any website to keep your photo confidential is impossible. Most men members have wives/partners and important jobs/businesses that would be damaged if the site gets hacked.
I haven't used it since, really sucks.
What about the verification clip you have to record?
It's like getting a bloody personal loan now.

[andrewv]

I haven't used it since, really sucks.
What about the verification clip you have to record?
It's like getting a bloody personal loan now.

There is no way on Planet Earth that I would trust Seeking dot com with my photos or video clips. Just imagine how even large companies like Optus, Qantas and Medibank could not keep their customers information safe from hacking.

[andrewv]

Remember boys that the website Ashley Madison — the extramarital-dating site — which was famously hacked in July–August 2015 by a group calling itself “The Impact Team.” The attackers leaked tens of millions of user records (credit cards, emails, profiles) and publicly released large data dumps, causing a major scandal.

Seeking will sooner or later get hacked too, and male members stand to lose jobs and/or divorces galore. Read all about it here https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/article/2024/may/14/ashley-madison-netflix-documentary

[smallasian]

I've been contemplating going back to Seeking with an old account I created pre-verification... At what stage does it ask you to verify? I'd prefer not to pay the $150 membership only to be forced to verify to message...

[GoldfishMan]

Just another shout out to the forum. Does anyone know how to get around the Seeking selfie verification? I don;t use my actual pics on seeking but an AI version of what looks like me.

Does anyone know of how to beat the system? it must be the same for many website that want selfie verification.

Do you have a pet dog or a cat?

[Tiger88my]

havent had the best experience on SDM and seeking lately. a lot of the profiles are of escorts and appear across both those platforms.

[JJBeck]

Any GoldCoast members on here?
Was contacted by a CG SB and want to check if anyone came across them before

[Nthnrr]

It seems the prepaid visa's from Coles/Woolworths no longer work on the Seeking site? Anyone got any other good options where YOU DON'T NEED ID??

[Seafood]

Hi Triplesec - absolutely.

Seeking (SA) and SugarDaddyMeet would be the primary sites I use.

There are ways to tell whether she is looking for sex or not. I would say that it is a very small proportion that are not on the side to have more / better sex with benefits. Older guys are a thing for many women. Especially if you can hold your own in conversation and have your shit together.

In terms of how to close on SA, I'm happy to share my thoughts on PM about the kind of methods that I've found effective.

Over the past few years I've found it a fascinating experience. Complementary to WLs / MLs and dating in real life. It's all part of the intimacy spectrum and each niche has it's place.



Hi Benny
I would like to hear your thoughts on effective methods, pls pm me also

[Riff888]

Hi Benny
I would like to hear your thoughts on effective methods, pls pm me also
Benny was banned a long time ago.

[Aussieguyinsf]

Despite the issues, Seeking is still your best bet. I'm on it and have heaps of success.

[andrewv]

Despite the issues, Seeking is still your best bet. I'm on it and have heaps of success.

Anyone who has done the latest seeking dot com requirement to verify themselves. Tell me if the verification takes a photo of you then if you must provide an ID, or how does it work.

[bob2006]

Anyone who has done the latest seeking dot com requirement to verify themselves. Tell me if the verification takes a photo of you then if you must provide an ID, or how does it work.

it use amazon or some cloud face regonization to record your facial signature , then they use that data to match with your uploaded photos.
it doesnt show on profile. similar things with SDM, but becareful with SD.

[Katon24]

Hi guys how can I join the telegram thread ? I’ve been a reader more than a participant on here !

[pocupine]

Hi guys, I just started to use Seeking and found that many ladies there enjoy luxury lifestyle and make me feel like they are looking for at least a few thousands weekly allowance or more than $1000 per meet by their descriptions. If this is true, how many gentlemen in Sydney can actually fulfill their requirements? Please share your experience.

[andrewv]

Hi guys, I just started to use Seeking and found that many ladies there enjoy luxury lifestyle and make me feel like they are looking for at least a few thousands weekly allowance or more than $1000 per meet by their descriptions. If this is true, how many gentlemen in Sydney can actually fulfill their requirements? Please share your experience.

Don't take any notice of the $1,000 PPM (pay per meet) girls. They are looking for drug dealers and property developers! Not you and me.
Others will accept $500 or $600. Just avoid the fancy OnlyFans looking girls.

Do not waste your time negotiating or replying to them. Keep going because the ratio of girls to men is 4:1 on seeking.com.

Keep in mind that you will also be up for around $150 to $220 for hotel rooms, plus meals, ....

[pocupine]

Thanks mate for the insight.

[Nthnrr]

There's plenty of them on there that are happy with $300 as well as long as you aren't a clown, making weird requests, socially awkward etc. Granted, some aren't great lookers and some are very unreliable (which is to be expected I guess) but I have 3 on the go for that amount and all very attractive, full-time job etc just looking for a bit extra to assist with rent, bills etc with someone that treats them well. That includes drinks, dinner etc but certainly not always and is in no way part of the deal. One can also host, the other 2 require a hotel which is another $200 or so.

Also have a couple in Melbourne for same amount (well one at present and another lined up for next Tuesday).

There's lots with "my fee is $700, $1,000, $2,500" etc but I just laugh and wish them well.

There's someone for everyone on SA.

[dodgybastard2]

There's plenty of them on there that are happy with $300 as well as long as you aren't a clown, making weird requests, socially awkward etc.

There's lots with "my fee is $700, $1,000, $2,500" etc but I just laugh and wish them well.

There's someone for everyone on SA.

Couldn't agree more with the above. I've been dipping my toe into the SB market more of late and have had some great experiences - found a few really nice, attractive girls in their 20s who are happy to do 300-450 for several hours of fun after a nice dinner. As others have said, just ignore the insta / OF types and the ones that want $1000 per meet. And the sex is great, its like seeing a FWB and mostly BB as well.

[andrewv]

which sites have you been using to acquire such SBs

Try https://www.secretbenefits.com/

It is not as elegant or target rich environment as seeking.com but the girls seem to be more realistic.

[ditchtheboss]

Anyone on sugardaddy.com.au? I am on it and I find that the girls are a mix of the unrealistic ones and the ones who give me a good fuck for 500 to 600. That’s where I South American girl who spent the whole night for 600 and a great fuck but her profile seems to be gone now. one else in it?

[Katon24]

I’ll be in Melbourne next month .. and am trying my luck on seeking .. any advice guys ? Which hotels are guest friendly ?

[GoldfishMan]

I’ll be in Melbourne next month .. and am trying my luck on seeking .. any advice guys ? Which hotels are guest friendly ?

Hotels here don't operate like in Asian countries. You can bring guests into your room as long as you're not doing something crazy like packing 4 people into a small room to stay overnight.

[Katon24]

Good to know .. this my first rodeo

[Nthnrr]

Girls in Melbourne are also happy with 300. Takes a bit of legwork but I just met up with 2. Both ok with 300 and a couple of drinks. Didn't have much time for anything else.

Both late twenties and attractive Aussies.

Still plenty asking 700+ though.......

[pocupine]

Hi mate, Where did you find them? Was it just hotel intimacy or was it like a proper date? I have been looking for SBs on Seeking, SDM etc. But I was looking for a proper date for 2-3 hours. There was only one girl offered as low as $400 for 2 hours. Even $500 offers are just a couple of them. Most offers are 600-1000 range. Considering hotel, dinner etc., it is just way too much for a 2-3 hours meet.
To my understanding, the point of looking for SBs is not just for sex.

[GoldfishMan]

Hi mate, Where did you find them? Was it just hotel intimacy or was it like a proper date? I have been looking for SBs on Seeking, SDM etc. But I was looking for a proper date for 2-3 hours. There was only one girl offered as low as $400 for 2 hours. Even $500 offers are just a couple of them. Most offers are 600-1000 range. Considering hotel, dinner etc., it is just way too much for a 2-3 hours meet.
To my understanding, the point of looking for SBs is not just for sex.

Who's point? Your point or their point?

[pocupine]

Mine. If it just for sex, I may just go to brothels.

[OverweightFarang]

Cheaper to just go to brothels

[andrewv]

I've set up a profile on SecretBenefits.com and got flooded with messages from girls (sugarbabies) from there.
Unfortunately, the quality is only 4/10 compared to seeking.com, where the selection range and quality are much higher.

[pocupine]

Mine experience varies. I came across a lot of same ladies on Sugardaddy from Seeking.

[Bigbadmonkay]

Hey fellas, looking to get into SBs, any tips on where to book hotels for a same day check out?

[blitz]

Hey fellas, looking to get into SBs, any tips on where to book hotels for a same day check out?
https://au.dayuse.com/

[Bigbadmonkay]

Thanks mate, appreciate it

[jenlai29]

heya! I'm looking for SBs to spoil, I haven't been active for around 5 years and I just found out seekingarrangements isnt a thing anymore. Where does everyone meet SBs nowadays. TYIA

[linkno2]

heya! I'm looking for SBs to spoil, I haven't been active for around 5 years and I just found out seekingarrangements isnt a thing anymore. Where does everyone meet SBs nowadays. TYIA
I'm using sugardaddymeet.com right now..used to be much cheaper membership but now it like 300 / months. Lucky still have some active sb on the list.

[giobien]

What site do you guys use? seeking now asks you to selfie-verify which I am not keen

[jenlai29]

I'm using sugardaddymeet.com right now..used to be much cheaper membership but now it like 300 / months. Lucky still have some active sb on the list.

How much should i expect to pay for a PPM? It’s been quite slow since i paid for premium. i have one SB whos quoted $800 for a PPM and $600 for a weekly allowance

[asam46]

Hey fellow punters, the below is my personal experience and conclusions, not facts about the whole SB scene. I’m sure others on here have come to different conclusions.

I spent 6+ months and a large pile of cash dating and sleeping with SBs, on seeking.com and Secret Benefits. I just can’t see that this is for me at all. Some things I learned:

1. These girls often have multiple clients. Some tell you this openly, others it’s just obvious. This just makes them expensive WLs, not girlfriends. Other girls I am pretty sure only have one client at a time. It bothered me at the start and then I stopped caring because I was checking out of this whole process.

2. Girls will quote up front $800 PPP, covered, no anal. This is their opening line. This really put me off many girls because it didn’t seem like dating but, as per #1 above, many of these SBs are just WLs.

3. Almost every single girl who replied to messages wanted me as their SD. Lots of girls didn’t reply, that’s fine, but no girl said “no” after meeting me - usually I asked to meet for lunch first ($250-$300). I’m so desirable! lol. It’s just financial.

4. I have had deeper, happier and more real connections with MLs over the years than I ever felt or had with any SB I met. And those MLs cost me 1/3 to 1/4 per week.

5. Costs PPM were usually quoted as $800 to $1000. Rarely girls would knock $100-150 off the PPM rate if you paid every week. Most girls can’t host so you’re dropping $200+ on a DayUse hotel, Airbnb or whatever. Maybe she wants presents too. Maybe her mum is sick and needs cash. Etc. so be prepared for $50-70k a year if you want something long term. For $10-15k a year I can get FS from an ML every week, one difference being that an SB will spend 2-4 hours a week with you, not 1 hour.

6. Availability to meet is a key compatibility problem. It’s worth sorting that out early. Have a time you’re likely to be free every week and make sure the potential SB can fit you in. Your wife may notice if you now go out every Friday night with “your mate Kevin”, who she hasn’t met.

So I learned some stuff, including that this isn’t for me. The only thrilling part was the initial chase. When it came to fulfilling my interest in having a girlfriend that I support, maybe 300 women I messaged, 50 women I chatted to, 15 I met, 5 I slept with, there’s 0 that I wanted to keep seeing.

YMMV

Happy punting!

[GoldfishMan]

Hey fellow punters, the below is my personal experience and conclusions, not facts about the whole SB scene. I’m sure others on here have come to different conclusions.

I spent 6+ months and a large pile of cash dating and sleeping with SBs, on seeking.com and Secret Benefits. I just can’t see that this is for me at all. Some things I learned:

1. These girls often have multiple clients. Some tell you this openly, others it’s just obvious. This just makes them expensive WLs, not girlfriends. Other girls I am pretty sure only have one client at a time. It bothered me at the start and then I stopped caring because I was checking out of this whole process.

2. Girls will quote up front $800 PPP, covered, no anal. This is their opening line. This really put me off many girls because it didn’t seem like dating but, as per #1 above, many of these SBs are just WLs.

3. Almost every single girl who replied to messages wanted me as their SD. Lots of girls didn’t reply, that’s fine, but no girl said “no” after meeting me - usually I asked to meet for lunch first ($250-$300). I’m so desirable! lol. It’s just financial.

4. I have had deeper, happier and more real connections with MLs over the years than I ever felt or had with any SB I met. And those MLs cost me 1/3 to 1/4 per week.

5. Costs PPM were usually quoted as $800 to $1000. Rarely girls would knock $100-150 off the PPM rate if you paid every week. Most girls can’t host so you’re dropping $200+ on a DayUse hotel, Airbnb or whatever. Maybe she wants presents too. Maybe her mum is sick and needs cash. Etc. so be prepared for $50-70k a year if you want something long term. For $10-15k a year I can get FS from an ML every week, one difference being that an SB will spend 2-4 hours a week with you, not 1 hour.

6. Availability to meet is a key compatibility problem. It’s worth sorting that out early. Have a time you’re likely to be free every week and make sure the potential SB can fit you in. Your wife may notice if you now go out every Friday night with “your mate Kevin”, who she hasn’t met.

So I learned some stuff, including that this isn’t for me. The only thrilling part was the initial chase. When it came to fulfilling my interest in having a girlfriend that I support, maybe 300 women I messaged, 50 women I chatted to, 15 I met, 5 I slept with, there’s 0 that I wanted to keep seeing.

YMMV

Happy punting!

Thats a great write-up, bro. Kudos!

[linkno2]

How much should i expect to pay for a PPM? It’s been quite slow since i paid for premium. i have one SB whos quoted $800 for a PPM and $600 for a weekly allowance

Depend on what is your taste..rate vary from 400 upto 1300ppm from my experience
There few of them can host too. Usually 500 -700 plus hotel fee.
My most expensive one is a chinese student for 1300 pm but she worth it, i keep seeing her every now and then . The cheapest one is one young indian born chick in campsie...500 for few hours in her studio.

[phamily]

Hey fellow punters, the below is my personal experience and conclusions, not facts about the whole SB scene. I’m sure others on here have come to different conclusions.

I spent 6+ months and a large pile of cash dating and sleeping with SBs, on seeking.com and Secret Benefits. I just can’t see that this is for me at all. Some things I learned:

1. These girls often have multiple clients. Some tell you this openly, others it’s just obvious. This just makes them expensive WLs, not girlfriends. Other girls I am pretty sure only have one client at a time. It bothered me at the start and then I stopped caring because I was checking out of this whole process.

2. Girls will quote up front $800 PPP, covered, no anal. This is their opening line. This really put me off many girls because it didn’t seem like dating but, as per #1 above, many of these SBs are just WLs.

3. Almost every single girl who replied to messages wanted me as their SD. Lots of girls didn’t reply, that’s fine, but no girl said “no” after meeting me - usually I asked to meet for lunch first ($250-$300). I’m so desirable! lol. It’s just financial.

4. I have had deeper, happier and more real connections with MLs over the years than I ever felt or had with any SB I met. And those MLs cost me 1/3 to 1/4 per week.

5. Costs PPM were usually quoted as $800 to $1000. Rarely girls would knock $100-150 off the PPM rate if you paid every week. Most girls can’t host so you’re dropping $200+ on a DayUse hotel, Airbnb or whatever. Maybe she wants presents too. Maybe her mum is sick and needs cash. Etc. so be prepared for $50-70k a year if you want something long term. For $10-15k a year I can get FS from an ML every week, one difference being that an SB will spend 2-4 hours a week with you, not 1 hour.

6. Availability to meet is a key compatibility problem. It’s worth sorting that out early. Have a time you’re likely to be free every week and make sure the potential SB can fit you in. Your wife may notice if you now go out every Friday night with “your mate Kevin”, who she hasn’t met.

So I learned some stuff, including that this isn’t for me. The only thrilling part was the initial chase. When it came to fulfilling my interest in having a girlfriend that I support, maybe 300 women I messaged, 50 women I chatted to, 15 I met, 5 I slept with, there’s 0 that I wanted to keep seeing.

YMMV

Happy punting!

Brilliant write up here, kudos to you bro.

I agree with a lot of the things you’ve said here, it’s very YMMV.

I was lucky that I had some SBs locked in during Covid which helped keep me sane during that time but have lucked out since the pandemic ended.

I currently find there’s far greater value for money if you are able to find a ML that you click with and make her your regular instead

[asam46]

Brilliant write up here, kudos to you bro.

I agree with a lot of the things you’ve said here, it’s very YMMV.

I was lucky that I had some SBs locked in during Covid which helped keep me sane during that time but have lucked out since the pandemic ended.

I currently find there’s far greater value for money if you are able to find a ML that you click with and make her your regular instead

Thank you, and people have had great experiences with SBs. And regarding an ML you click with, yes, 100 %. I find a lot of satisfaction with a regular ML, looking forward to the next meet, and it keeps my spending down to once a week.

[blidbla86]

Depend on what is your taste..rate vary from 400 upto 1300ppm from my experience
There few of them can host too. Usually 500 -700 plus hotel fee.
My most expensive one is a chinese student for 1300 pm but she worth it, i keep seeing her every now and then . The cheapest one is one young indian born chick in campsie...500 for few hours in her studio.

i'm not sure what the difference is between this and an escort? or SB in general vs escort?

[jenlai29]

i'm not sure what the difference is between this and an escort? or SB in general vs escort?

I suppose an escort like the ones on Scarlet Blue actually has a clientele base. Depending on the SB , some SBs might stay exclusive for their SDs or have a small group of SDs. BB is also an option for some SBs. It’s more closer to an actual GF no strings attached experience.

[Aussieguyinsf]

Big fan of seeking.com and I have a vastly different experience from the posters above. I've had some long term ones. Longest was 18 months - 22 year old bi-girl who loved pole and indie music. So much fun. Absolutely gorgeous. Left me when she found a gf and got serious. I've also had many one offs over the years. I pay anything from $400 to $600. I am seeing one in Sydney who I do raw for $600 and she stays overnight. I just came back from Melbourne and saw two SBs. One was 350 and the other 600 - Japanese single mum with a regular job who just does it on the side. You can pick the WLs on the site and I don't go near them. I like girl next door Asians and blacks. Forget the other platforms, seeking.com is the way to go. I have a telegram group for guys who have paid up seeking.com accounts to trade info but am pretty selective about who we let in from past timewasters.

[jenlai29]

Big fan of seeking.com and I have a vastly different experience from the posters above. I've had some long term ones. Longest was 18 months - 22 year old bi-girl who loved pole and indie music. So much fun. Absolutely gorgeous. Left me when she found a gf and got serious. I've also had many one offs over the years. I pay anything from $400 to $600. I am seeing one in Sydney who I do raw for $600 and she stays overnight. I just came back from Melbourne and saw two SBs. One was 350 and the other 600 - Japanese single mum with a regular job who just does it on the side. You can pick the WLs on the site and I don't go near them. I like girl next door Asians and blacks. Forget the other platforms, seeking.com is the way to go. I have a telegram group for guys who have paid up seeking.com accounts to trade info but am pretty selective about who we let in from past timewasters.

Hi! I’ve sent a message for you regarding telegram. Thanks!

[Propro]

Big fan of seeking.com and I have a vastly different experience from the posters above. I've had some long term ones. Longest was 18 months - 22 year old bi-girl who loved pole and indie music. So much fun. Absolutely gorgeous. Left me when she found a gf and got serious. I've also had many one offs over the years. I pay anything from $400 to $600. I am seeing one in Sydney who I do raw for $600 and she stays overnight. I just came back from Melbourne and saw two SBs. One was 350 and the other 600 - Japanese single mum with a regular job who just does it on the side. You can pick the WLs on the site and I don't go near them. I like girl next door Asians and blacks. Forget the other platforms, seeking.com is the way to go. I have a telegram group for guys who have paid up seeking.com accounts to trade info but am pretty selective about who we let in from past timewasters.

What's your telegram? I can't seem to access messages here.

[Aussieguyinsf]

What's your telegram? I can't seem to access messages here.

same as my name here

[FunTimes105]

New here so not sure I'm posting this correctly but I have had plenty of success on SA in Sydney over the years. I normally sign up for a month then work the contacts I get over the month.

I don't have a picture on my profile.

I currently have 4 on the go and trying to reduce it to 2 without hurting any feelings. I don’t have lots of time to dedicate to this with a busy work schedule.

If I have to get a hotel, I never pay more than $300 (that’s a deal breaker for many but so be it), if they can host, I make it $400-$500

Girl 1 – an attractive South American girl, early 30’s. She can host and is happy with the $300. We meet weekly and get on really well. Round 1 is usually followed by dinner then we return to hers for dessert. This girl is a true 3 holer. I can spend as much time in whatever hole I like all bare.

Girl 2 – an attractive blonde, mid-late 20’s. She can host so I give her $500. We get along very well and she is always happy with two shots all bare.

Girl 3 – probably the most average looker of the 4 but ok and mid 20’s. This one is $300 as can’t host and again she is always happy with two shots all bare. This one is very reliable, once she commits, she commits.

Girl 4 – this one can host so $400. Mid 30’s. Also a blonde. And again she is always happy with two shots all bare.

Having said the above, there is/was lots of messaging on SA where I got no replies or a “no thanks” or lots of chat backwards and forwards then they'd either get cold feet or disappear or something less polite. You have to be patient and not thin skinned. Some say no first time round but then open up communication wise when you have a second go. I guess it depends on their experiences and I have heard plenty of horror stories…..

I have also made the mistake a couple of times meeting up without having first met for a coffee/drink and paid the price in that they are just not my type, butt ugly and look nothing like their profile photo etc so there has been a couple of occasions where I just couldn't go through with it but that was my fault and lesson learned.

I also have a couple on the go in Melbourne. They are both $300 as I always have a hotel when in Melbourne.

[andrewv]

That is very reassuring to know some girls are happy with $300 to $500, @FunTimes105.
As you know, many girls on SA are asking for $700 to $1,200 per meeting which is not economical when you also have to add another $200 for a hotel room.

Do you discuss the amount before you first meet for coffee/drink to save time, or do you wait till after you've had the MAG (Meet And Greet) first.


New here so not sure I'm posting this correctly but I have had plenty of success on SA in Sydney over the years. I normally sign up for a month then work the contacts I get over the month.

I don't have a picture on my profile.

I currently have 4 on the go and trying to reduce it to 2 without hurting any feelings. I don’t have lots of time to dedicate to this with a busy work schedule.

If I have to get a hotel, I never pay more than $300 (that’s a deal breaker for many but so be it), if they can host, I make it $400-$500

Girl 1 – an attractive South American girl, early 30’s. She can host and is happy with the $300. We meet weekly and get on really well. Round 1 is usually followed by dinner then we return to hers for dessert. This girl is a true 3 holer. I can spend as much time in whatever hole I like all bare.

Girl 2 – an attractive blonde, mid-late 20’s. She can host so I give her $500. We get along very well and she is always happy with two shots all bare.

Girl 3 – probably the most average looker of the 4 but ok and mid 20’s. This one is $300 as can’t host and again she is always happy with two shots all bare. This one is very reliable, once she commits, she commits.

Girl 4 – this one can host so $400. Mid 30’s. Also a blonde. And again she is always happy with two shots all bare.

Having said the above, there is/was lots of messaging on SA where I got no replies or a “no thanks” or lots of chat backwards and forwards then they'd either get cold feet or disappear or something less polite. You have to be patient and not thin skinned. Some say no first time round but then open up communication wise when you have a second go. I guess it depends on their experiences and I have heard plenty of horror stories…..

I have also made the mistake a couple of times meeting up without having first met for a coffee/drink and paid the price in that they are just not my type, butt ugly and look nothing like their profile photo etc so there has been a couple of occasions where I just couldn't go through with it but that was my fault and lesson learned.

I also have a couple on the go in Melbourne. They are both $300 as I always have a hotel when in Melbourne.

[Seafood]

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[masque2709]

Hi all,

Which sites are currently the best now for this in term of Woman to Man ratio and the quality?
https://www.seeking.com/
https://www.secretbenefits.com/
https://www.sugardaddy.com.au/

Thanks

[FunTimes105]

"Do you discuss the amount before you first meet for coffee/drink to save time, or do you wait till after you've had the MAG (Meet And Greet) first."

I always agree the amount first before meeting for coffee/drinks or anything else

[andrewv]

discuss the "allowance" before meeting. Always best to do a quick 5 minutes on FaceTme first to ensure both parties are happy with each other's looks and sound.
Most girls expect a payment to M&G (Meet and Greet) in person, so it's better to save that money if the allowance discussion will fail.

[FunTimes105]

Paying for Meet & Greet is another big no-no.....

[masque2709]

Hi guys,
Just wondering what's the deal with the more mature ladies on these websites i.e. 40-50s
Are they also looking for financial benefits ? One would think if the same deal then better go for the younger girls.?

[andrewv]

The difference is a sugarbaby belives that she is not a prostitue and that she can choose which men (sugardaddies) to go with.
To use a technical term, sugarbabies have "plausible deniability" about what they do. On the other hand, an escort is a prostitute and in most cases will accept all comers if they pay the fee.
Most sugarbabies are doing it for only a short period (a phase of their lives) to pay uni fees, buy fancy gear and/or life expenses and generally stop after a while.


i'm not sure what the difference is between this and an escort? or SB in general vs escort?