Quote Originally Posted by VFlowers View Post
Easy mate.....Personally, I'm happy to choose from whatever upgrade menu I'm offered.
But I can see how someone who is after a particular service would want to be reasonably sure that he isn't gonna waste time and money.

And herein lies the dilemma: Some guys want to choose the girl based on the treatments she offers. And I don't think that's unreasonable. You just gotta be smart with how you make enquiries - or how you answer to such enquiries.
It's a bit of a hypocrisy to be making by far most of the money from selling upgrades, but not wanting to deal with people who come specifically for upgrades, and would want some degree of certainty of what upgrades are available.

And, Mr BedWrecker and Ms Holly......be careful what you wish for. If all those guys who are looking for certain services started visiting legal establishments and privates instead, a lot of massage parlours would be disappearing rather fast.

That said, it's of course pretty unsmart to make upgrade-related enquiries over the phone, via open text or social media.
But discretely and politely asking a shop owner or manager for recommendations....I can't see what would be wrong with that.

Trying to hassle girls into providing what they are uncomfortable or unwilling to provide, once in the room, is of course totally unacceptable.

But as I wrote before.....hopefully the legislative changes will be allowing for more clarity on both sides.
I dont want pricks like this visiting massage shops. They can go to soulless brothels and use their lack of game there.

You know how many undercover police visit shops and ask questions like this just to see responses?
They often go into rooms, get their massage and see what happens?
If you are wondering why your ml disappears sometimes, wonder no more.

Any shop answering this without trusting the client deserves any heat coming their way.

If someone wants a particular service, go the legal way or use your friggin brain.
Ask in the room. Chalk up a loss if necessary when the ml you see says no. Many mls in this situation will tell you who does at their shop without putting managers and receptionists at risk.

Yes hopefully changes in law are coming for the better, but I wouldnt count on it.
The wowsers will be back in charge soon.