Reply With QuoteGee so much respect for these girls. And you wonder why they don't wanna see you.Originally Posted by LuvKoreanPussy
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That's a good reply and he needs to read and digest every word of it. But I suspect he's too far gone the way he keeps it up. Have to wonder how he treats all the women in his life, not just WLs.
Gee so much respect for these girls. And you wonder why they don't wanna see you.
Like if you get rejected to get FS even with money that's probably mean there something wrong about you.
You have to think why she accept everyone and you get rejected.
So if you can't even hook with WL what about your life outside this fantasy punting world?
I believe some people complain about things like this to just feel bteer.
If you get rejected don't embarrass yourself here on the forum and cry no one give a fuck about you here it's fucking sex forum.
Sometimes I visit random girls with no booking treat them will with respect and I get very good service and one of them give me CIM with no extra.
when I was shitty guy with no manners they don't even let me kiss lol.
So if you get rejected it's because you are not good don't blame the girl just work on your self.
Be gentleman be respected be nice and you won't get rejected.
I've seen some Indian visit some shops and seriously they look like shit I feel disgusted when I see them.
Iam not talking about you mate talking in general about the guys crying about rejected.
Yup that's the thing about these type of people. One rejection and they feel like the whole world has turned against them. Like c'mon we ain't no saint we are paying to have sex if the ladies don't like you choose a different one and if none of the ladies in that shop like you choose another shop that's supposed to be the beauty of it when you are paying.Like if you get rejected to get FS even with money that's probably mean there something wrong about you.
You have to think why she accept everyone and you get rejected.
So if you can't even hook with WL what about your life outside this fantasy punting world?
I believe some people complain about things like this to just feel bteer.
If you get rejected don't embarrass yourself here on the forum and cry no one give a fuck about you here it's fucking sex forum.
Sometimes I visit random girls with no booking treat them will with respect and I get very good service and one of them give me CIM with no extra
when I was shitty guy with no manners they don't even let me kiss lol.
So if you get rejected it's because you are not good don't blame the girl just work on your self.
Be gentleman be respected be nice and you won't get rejected.
I've seen some Indian visit some shops and seriously they look like shit I feel disgusted when I see them.
Iam not talking about you mate talking in general about the guys crying about rejected.
Lets take personal things out of this and talk purely numbers.
It may not seem like much if you isolate me as a single customer being cancelled on. 1 customer may not seem like much
But say in a week, a girl may cancel on 5 potential customers as she is picky and may not like all of her customers.
Thats 5 × $300 = $1500 loss for the shop in a week
In a year, thats $78,000 gross income loss for the shop
If say, they have 5 girls doing this, thats $390,000 gross income loss for the shop in a year
The 2 parties that loses out when a girl does this is the customer and the shop/business. You have an unhappy customer and a shop losing money.
Thats ALOT of money being lost for the shop/business just because of a girls ego with cancelling on customers. If I was the owner I would be pissed. Thats why I urge shops to take more control over their girls and encourage them to be more "liberal" and open-minded when cancelling bookings just because they don't "like" to see a customer.
If you read it properly, I wrote "gross" income. Not "net" income.
The assumption here just cause the girl "cancels" a booking, its a loss to the shop. I don't think that's the case, the girls pay the owners to use their shop Eg $300-$500 for the day or whatever agreement with the owner, the owners get a cut regardless if the girl see customers or not.
So if girls cancel or no one books to see them, its a lost for the girl. You often see Owners pushing you to see certain girls, its to help them make money aswell.
The girl will have another customer anyway. Its not like she will be sitting around doing nothing.
The shop won't lose a cent.
What are you talking about. If they have 2 customer bookings, they earn $600
If they cancel 1, they lose $300
Thats a loss by definition 555
Yes true. 99.9% of J girls are with an agency so realistically, it wouldn't make a difference if a customer cancels. Everyone gets paid at the end of the day.
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this is gonna be the last time i posted on this thread cause its gone too far and we already know where your mind set is
Anyway, just cause one cancels doesn't mean a lost, it was never gained?
Its more like a missed opportunity however as @carmen farquis mention, another opportunity "customer" would come around anyways..
If i found $50 on the street yesterday but not today. I'm not losing $50 today—I just didn’t get extra money again.
Exactly. He assume that the girl would sit out the time he vacated !
Unless it’s an outcall agency, a popular shop can fill the time of a popular girl quite easily, no money lost except the trouble he might have caused if she let him stay.
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This is not how it works at all. The girls do not pay the shop $300/$500 to use a room. The shop only gets paid if the girl has customers and we take a split from that. So for expample a 60 min diamond booking is $300 the girl will usually take $220 and the shop will take $80. The reason girls get pushed is because they do good service or we think the customer will enjoy her. The girls that do so/so service are not getting pushed.
The agent only gets paid if the girl gets paid. If she has no customers for the day then the agent gets $0 from that girl
Thanks Abs90, I was told exactly the same by a manager / owner.
After reading this whole thread, I'm pretty sure the owners of ginza, n5m and other popular shops are doing just fine without that one customer being refused service out of the double digit number of men walking into that shop each day.
And those girls are doing fine without that one customer they have refused service to.
Yes the girl is charging for a service but like any business owner or contractor, if you have a customer who is pissing you off, being difficult demanding etc, you can always give them their money back and tell them to fuck off and go somewhere else.
Lmao I've been blacklisted by one WL for reasons only me and her know the real truth too but despite what she told management i just moved the fuck on and book other girls now as there is no point in arguing about it regardless of the truth or your expectations of being a paying customer.
You guys are talking about the hyper-popular girls like J Ice or K Leana/Jessie/Rebecca from Ginza who are fully booked all the time
These girls are probably the top 1% of all WL's and can easily replace a booking that was cancelled
But most girls aren't like this. Most girls are not 100% booked out. Theres been alot of times when I can just walk in and see a girl at a popular shop during quiet times. I also came across alot of girls who just sleep through their shift and can go for hours without a customer. Some girls may only get 1 or 2 customers a day if they're lucky
For most of the average WL's its probably not that easy to just "replace" a customer who they cancelled on.
And theres alot of WL's & shops out there. So these girls are constantly competing with each other for customers and regular customers too
If a girl is occupying a room like in some shops and she cancels a customer's booking. Shop will be losing money for sure
If a girl cancels a customer's booking, ain't no one will be getting paid.
Girl doesn't get paid
Agency doesn't get paid
Shop doesn't get paid
And an unhappy customer who had his booking cancelled
Its a lose-lose situation for all parties involved
So this thread you started (on a different, banned account) was because you were cancelled on.
So your solution is to force the girls to see customers they don't want to see or can't see? That they should just put up with being abused and assaulted?
If there is a cancellation, there are usually two types of reasons: ones they have no control over (such as emergencies, getting sick, getting attacked by some scumbag), and ones they do have control over (the person they are cancelling on is someone they don't want to see - for whatever reason. They have that right, don't they?)
So, what is your solution then?
For things they don't have control over, are you saying they should continue working anyway?
What if they were sick? They shouldn't be forced to continue working if they're sick - that's just wrong. Especially if it's contagious. Imagine if you got gastro or something from a WL. You'd be complaining again because she was forced to work and got you sick. Then you'd say the shop should have let them rest.... after you said the shop should force them to work, even while sick.
And for things they do have control over?
If they cancel on someone because they didn't like the look of them?
Are you saying the WLs aren't allowed to protect themselves from abusive customers? Are you abusing them? Is that why you keep complaining? Because they keep cancelling on you when you wanted to abuse them? Surely not, right? Why else do you keep saying they should be forced to see people when they have made it clear they don't want to.
And they know they're not getting money from that customer.
And the shop knows too they're not getting money.
But they all seem to be fine with it.
They're still in business. If the WL is still on the roster, seems the shop is also fine with them cancelling on certain customers.
So those are your solutions?
As you've said: the girls should have a "better work ethic" and just see whoever has booked them, whether they like it or not. And that the shops should either force the girls to see people they don't want, or fire them.
Those are your solutions?
You haven't said anything else that sounds like a solution.
They're not "beautiful and exotic" objects for you to fuck and abuse. They're people, and they have freedoms and rights.
Why are you trying to deprive them of their freedoms and rights?
Or is that your goal?
Because nothing else you've said says otherwise.
Just that they should be forced to do whatever you want.
That's fucked up, dude.
Why do you keep trying to make these girls (and the shops) do things they don't want to? Why do you keep trying to hurt them?
From your posting history under all those aliases like mn69, LoveJapPussy etc etc, we all know your attitude or behaviour towards the girls, you’d better worry about whether you can get a punt if the shops know your face than the shop losing money.
If the shop knows the girl is at fault, she would have been let go, if she’s still on the roster, that’s another story.
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Can confirm the shops know the faces of us users.
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