What exactly is "Open Minded" for ML?

[kingwally]

Open minded is a just a fucken marketing gimmick.....and some blokes still queue up to buy that sales-pitch!

Reality check: if you roll in looking like Brad Pitt or Chris Hemsworth she'll be extremely open minded - even if you're old, bald, and fat, but with good table manners and a thick wallet, over time a chick will become open minded. Anything between those two extremes is a roll of the dice.

Open minded just means subject to a visual inspection, personal connection, and available funds.

Agree 100% looks and money talks!

[GoldfishMan]

Open minded is a just a fucken marketing gimmick.....and some blokes still queue up to buy that sales-pitch!

Reality check: if you roll in looking like Brad Pitt or Chris Hemsworth she'll be extremely open minded - even if you're old, bald, and fat, but with good table manners and a thick wallet, over time a chick will become open minded. Anything between those two extremes is a roll of the dice.

Open minded just means subject to a visual inspection, personal connection, and available funds.

Good point. Emphasis on the "personal connection" part. Have you ever been in a situation, anywhere not just in punting, where the very first time you ever meet a girl, she just behaves like she's known you for a long time?

It always takes me by surprise. I could be ogling a girl for a while, gathering courage to talk to her, then when I finally do it, she just takes the lead from the get go. The rest is like a whirlwind and before I know it I'm in a relationship!

The same goes with MLs. I'd book a girl for the first time sight unseen thinking it would just be a run off the mill HJ sesh. Not very often, and only with K an C girls, they just really give me the vibe that they're "at ease" with me as soon as they come into the room. No formal greetings or whatever, they just come in talking about how they're having a bad day, etc. I'm again like a deer caught in the headlights but these first meetings usually lead to long-term regulars. None of them had any "open minded" on them either from my vague memory.

Girls can sometimes be so hard to figure out!

[andrewv]

So many opinions on what "open-minded" means.....

In my view, "open-minded" means:

1. You will have to spend more money than shown on the price list, and
2. The girl will do a good sales job on you to see how much $$$ she can get out of you in the room for how little she could get away with.

I've been around this who thing for too many years. There is simply NO other definition of open-minded.

Painful reminder: The shops and girls objective is business. To get the maximum dollars for the least effort, without losing your business. The girl is not in love with you and thinking "oh, I love him so much, I want to do all I can to make him happy and satisfied."

Your objective is to get maximum bang for your buck for the least dollar amount.

The two objectives are in conflict.

[cplurt2]

It means she will keep sucking after you fart

[ColesBag]

Not sure which shop you are referring to. Saigon Princess used to ban the girls from doing FS

Probably due to being paranoid from the local council.

[hohnerboy]

I know of a couple of massage shops where open minded means bbfs, and another where it meant a nude hj. Go figure

[bewitched]

Seems like we've absolutely nailed down what open minded is!

[trampslikeus55]

Open minded is a just a fucken marketing gimmick.....and some blokes still queue up to buy that sales-pitch!

Reality check: if you roll in looking like Brad Pitt or Chris Hemsworth she'll be extremely open minded - even if you're old, bald, and fat, but with good table manners and a thick wallet, over time a chick will become open minded. Anything between those two extremes is a roll of the dice.

Open minded just means subject to a visual inspection, personal connection, and available funds.

It is safer than writing "she will only fuck handsome men with plenty of money" in the description 👍

[ditchtheboss]

In my experience open minded means she will be open to fs talks. Every time I saw an open minded girl I had full service. YMMV

[DDT]

Okay, we've been talking about open-minded, so what can we say when they say friendly?

[11Bravo]

So many opinions on what "open-minded" means.....

In my view, "open-minded" means:

1. You will have to spend more money than shown on the price list, and
2. The girl will do a good sales job on you to see how much $$$ she can get out of you in the room for how little she could get away with.

I've been around this who thing for too many years. There is simply NO other definition of open-minded.

Painful reminder: The shops and girls objective is business. To get the maximum dollars for the least effort, without losing your business. The girl is not in love with you and thinking "oh, I love him so much, I want to do all I can to make him happy and satisfied."

Your objective is to get maximum bang for your buck for the least dollar amount.

The two objectives are in conflict.

Wait a minute, now just wait ONE minute. You mean, independent contractors are allowed to quote individual prices for individual jobs rather than a one-size fits all quote? That a customer has the freedom to open his mouth and negotiate price? Does the socialist state govt know about this? Seems the govt certainly wants to curtail free speech. Is capitalism and the free market next?

Talking to women doesn't bother me one bit, but I did go to coed schools.

Perhaps you've never been a contractor, a salesman, a marketeer. The methodology you describe would seem to fit a lot of jobs. But perhaps you're just used to paying MSRP? Half the fun of shopping in world bazaars is sitting down, having a glass of chi, and discussing price.

But, being a nice guy, I am willing to sell a pair of those special glasses that allow you to see the bg's/bfl/mp prices stamped on their foreheads in invisible ink. No discussion needed.

IME: Open minded means it is her choice as to what extras will be provided.

There's even a manual:
https://www.aus99forum.com/showthrea...=1#post1637055

[Double_Adapter]

Okay, we've been talking about open-minded, so what can we say when they say friendly?

Open minded with friendly rates perhaps ?

[Ronron0407]

I know of a couple of massage shops where open minded means bbfs, and another where it meant a nude hj. Go figure

Spill the name please


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[andrewv]

Wait a minute, now just wait ONE minute. You mean, independent contractors are allowed to quote individual prices for individual jobs rather than a one-size fits all quote? That a customer has the freedom to open his mouth and negotiate price? Does the socialist state govt know about this? Seems the govt certainly wants to curtail free speech. Is capitalism and the free market next?

Talking to women doesn't bother me one bit, but I did go to coed schools.

Perhaps you've never been a contractor, a salesman, a marketeer. The methodology you describe would seem to fit a lot of jobs. But perhaps you're just used to paying MSRP? Half the fun of shopping in world bazaars is sitting down, having a glass of chi, and discussing price.

But, being a nice guy, I am willing to sell a pair of those special glasses that allow you to see the bg's/bfl/mp prices stamped on their foreheads in invisible ink. No discussion needed.

IME: Open minded means it is her choice as to what extras will be provided.

There's even a manual:
https://www.aus99forum.com/showthrea...=1#post1637055

Actually, you seem to think that women who sell their bodies are just a product.
Most financial transactions involve the sale and purchase of products and/or services, but with sex it is not just a service but the woman's own body in a very intimate way, which makes this a very different ballgame.

[JJBlows]

She's open minded to what your wallet has to offer

[11Bravo]

Actually, you seem to think that women who sell their bodies are just a product.
Most financial transactions involve the sale and purchase of products and/or services, but with sex it is not just a service but the woman's own body in a very intimate way, which makes this a very different ballgame.

You should do your homework. I've stated many times that if you treat her like a person, she'll be a person. If you treat her like an orifice, she'll be an orifice. I'm definitely of the former, not the latter; that should be obvious. The product is sex; she is not. I understand the difference, ala "your job does not define you" (though many here think differently).

I just understand that's it's just business. You're the one saying "Your objective is to get maximum bang for your buck for the least dollar amount." Sounds like a product purchase to me. My epiphany came when I was standing in a bar negotiating with a BFL and realized, when I did the mental currency conversion, that the only thing between enjoying her company for the night or not was all of $20 AUS. That's what I call a no-brainer. For you... might be open to question.

[priapus1966]

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IME: Open minded means it is her choice as to what extras will be provided.

This is the entire point and the fundamental difference between a WL and an ML. The ML retains the right to make the decision whether she will or whether she will not provide a particular extra service. In my 30+ years of experience the skill, kindness and consideration of the punter is of far more importance than his superficial physical appearance.

[johncitizen]

Painful reminder: The shops and girls objective is business. To get the maximum dollars for the least effort, without losing your business. The girl is not in love with you and thinking "oh, I love him so much, I want to do all I can to make him happy and satisfied."

Your objective is to get maximum bang for your buck for the least dollar amount.

The two objectives are in conflict.

If we treat punting like a zero-sum game, we are gonna have a shitty experience most of the time.

The better approach is to assume that her main objective is to provide a good service and make you feel good. This should be the punters main objective, too (to feel good). Yes, it’s a business transaction, but it’s also a pleasure-seeking activity.

I think this approach matches with reality, too. Think of the countless times youve heard a girl say Im happy/satisfied if you are happy/satisfied?

Of course, youll come across some lacklustre individuals, but these exist in every service industry.

[Dagwood]

It can be a sign YMMV greatly, as the visit can be fun or not.

It’s that what ML punting all about?

[jaquedm1307]

This is true. brother Double_Adapter knows whats up.

If you are young and handsome or you roll in there looking like Brad Pitt or Chris Hemsworth, then she will be extremely open-minded.

If you're an Old, Bald, Fat Farang, then its all transactional, all about money and YMMV. She will only be open-minded depending on how far your wallet goes.

Has the Thunderrcock phoenix risen from the fire ????? Or have I missed the 8 ball and everyone knows ������*♂️��*♂️

As the great Robin Williams said when explaining about golf
'They put a fuvking weeeeeeeee flag on the horizon to give yeee hoooope .....

Written on the punters flag is 'open minded' - it's there and it's achievable but depends on the weather conditions of the day - it depends on your mindset and attitude you project and how that's perceived by the ML - it depends on your wallet but even if you get all that right sometimes the punting gods have other ideas - like you might remind her of her 3rd cousin forth removed who she can't stand