Coronavirus

[Sanji2016]

In the year 2018, there were 1.445 millions of Chinese visitors to Australia, say each person only spent $2,000 here, you do the sums !

That's about AUD 3 billion, I guess it would be less this year...

[iphone]

So Ginza have the chip scanner. So they can read my passport.

It that real? Can't be that easy to get that kind of reader, right?

[AHLUNGOR]

The Macao government has just announced as from midnight tonight. All casinos and entertainment venues in Macao will be closed for 15 days to avoid mass gathering of people and therefore eliminating most risks of spreading the virus ! Staff will be paid their usual wages to stay home .

Ps. Yes, that will include all sauna massage, nightclubs and Karaoke bars . So ALL punting activities will be stopped !

[eveeveeve]

"Chinese sex workers in New Zealand
are claiming to be Korean, Japanese, or simply “Asian” in their online advertisements as clients give them a wide berth amid fears over the coronavirus outbreak"

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/australasia/article/3048857/coronavirus-chinese-sex-workers-new-zealand-suffer-dip

[Meng]

Soooo. Anyone want to share their experience with the whole passport checking thing?

[halfway]

The Macao government has just announced as from midnight tonight. All casinos and entertainment venues in Macao will be closed for 15 days to avoid mass gathering of people and therefore eliminating most risks of spreading the virus ! Staff will be paid their usual wages to stay home .

Ps. Yes, that will include all sauna massage, nightclubs and Karaoke bars . So ALL punting activities will be stopped !


Wow imagine the amount of coin they will be loosing ?

Many business's are going to go broke due to this.

[GoldfishMan]

Soooo. Anyone want to share their experience with the whole passport checking thing?
This passport checking is hard to swallow, gonna hurt their business a lot. Not many people want to show their papers at a brothel!
An easier way is to just use your phone "timeline" page to show where you've been recently. Tough luck if you switched off this feature because you're a privacy freak, though.
On Android, just go to your Google Maps app and open the "Your Timeline" page and it'll show where you've been historically. Even better, this info cannot be edited as far as I know.
Not an iPhone user so don't know how to get this info there, but it is definitely there as well.

[Ah-D]

NZ WL/ML giving discount because of the virus https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/australasia/article/3048857/coronavirus-chinese-sex-workers-new-zealand-suffer-dip?utm_content=article&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1580791583

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[Meng]

This passport checking is hard to swallow, gonna hurt their business a lot. Not many people want to show their papers at a brothel!
An easier way is to just use your phone "timeline" page to show where you've been recently. Tough luck if you switched off this feature because you're a privacy freak, though.
On Android, just go to your Google Maps app and open the "Your Timeline" page and it'll show where you've been historically. Even better, this info cannot be edited as far as I know.
Not an iPhone user so don't know how to get this info there, but it is definitely there as well.

Yea I was thinking the same thing in terms of less business but was wondering if anyone has done it already? What’s the process in terms of reception? What do they check and how to they check it? Do they (and I hope not) take a photo or a scan of your passport?

[Sanji2016]

"Of the 12 previously reported cases, 3 have recovered. The others are in a stable condition"

Good news folks! quoted from health gov au.

patients around the world are being released as well.

[F0x]

"Chinese sex workers in New Zealand
are claiming to be Korean, Japanese, or simply “Asian” in their online advertisements as clients give them a wide berth amid fears over the coronavirus outbreak"

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/australasia/article/3048857/coronavirus-chinese-sex-workers-new-zealand-suffer-dip

Yep.

I called it in another thread (Ginza / 479).

As much as I might have a go at my own race for stuff they do which pisses me off, its not fair to lump everyone together. You can imagine how much bullshit is going on atm especially in schools.

Show some confidence in C girls and punt. You might get the service of your lifetime right now lol.

I might give SV a visit this Thurs if I have time.

[AHLUNGOR]

The latest figures:

28,018 confirmed cases and 563 dead’s in China

Lord have mercy !

[Riff888]

The latest figures:

28,018 confirmed cases and 563 dead’s in China

Lord have mercy !Looks like the mortality rate is coming down.

That's 2.01%, I think it was 2.07% before.

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[Meng]

The latest figures:

28,018 confirmed cases and 563 dead’s in China

Lord have mercy !

Chill out dude. You’re playing into the media’s hands in trying to convince people it’s the end of the world. Have a look at the below URL on the CDC website estimating flu related deaths in 2018 and 2019.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

Flu related deaths estimated at around 30-60 thousand. Compared to the mortality rate of the novel Coronavirus which is still in the 3 digit number and only causes death to those who are either elderly or in some way immune compromised (e.g infants, cancer patients, HIV patients etc.) there is really nothing to panic over. Heck I reckon if I got it and with proper quarantine and care I’d get over it just like the common flu.

[sydpunt]

*If you switched off this feature because you are a normal person who doesn't feel comfortable with strangers watching everything they do.

There, fixed that for you.

I am surprised not many people are doing this. Easy just switch off for a while before going punting. So no traces whatsoever.

I have deleted location history from google before. Heck you can delete your entire data from google if you wish. Hard to keep up though, coz alot of things are set to on as default

[kjai]

Auckland punter scene is going to take off! Will be good news for everyone once this coronavirus phase is over... Hopefully it's sooner rather than later

[Meng]

This is not like the flu. Your information is wrong. Viral pnumonia requiring oxygen is a common feature of this disease. This is the case for healthy adults also. Secondary infection is also common. The Coronavirus produces a very large amount of virus in the blood and seems to suppress white cell production - nothing like the flu.

It is also very infectious and while it does kill more elderly it still makes adults gravely ill sometimes leading to death.

If you want to compare to the flu, take your flu deaths and multiply by 20 as it is about 20 times as deadly. The flu infects 15 to 30% of the population in a bad year. This virus is about twice as infectious, maybe more so. So take the number you got above and double it. Then assume that the number hospitalised for treatment and recover is is about ten times that. It takes up to a month to recover for a serious case.

So 40k flu deaths x20x2 = 160k deaths in the USA. And 1.6 million hospitalised. I'm sure they have enough beds and oxygen masks.

Of course no one knows how things will go but the situation is serious. We do not have the capacity to treat hundreds of thousands of cases. The world will not end. But your suggestion that is is no worse than the flu is wrong and a foolish way to think. Just because it is in China affecting Chinese doesn't mean it isn't real. Hyundai has just shut down all of its factories in Korea. Vw, Toyota, gm, and Apple have shut down their Chinese factories. Even if some miracle stops it spreading today, it will affect you.

Good news is punting doesn't put you at any greater risk than shopping or eating out or using a public toilet or going to the cinema...

Ok so check out flu symptoms from the CDC (a reputable source of information)

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/symptoms.htm

One of the excerpts mentions that some complications may occur such as pneumonia. This is for the common flu.

Now also the excerpt for Coronavirus.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/symptoms.html

Now I’m not saying the novel Coronavirus won’t cause pneumonia. I’m just saying so does the flu which again kills 30-60 thousand people on average per year in the US. In fact a specific strain of the Coronavirus (not the novel Coronavirus) is one of the viruses that causes the common flu.

As I said people should check on reputable sources of information like the department of health, CDC etc and not pander to media hype.

[yug]

Ok so check out flu symptoms from the CDC (a reputable source of information)

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/symptoms.htm

One of the excerpts mentions that some complications may occur such as pneumonia. This is for the common flu.

Now also the excerpt for Coronavirus.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/symptoms.html

Now I’m not saying the novel Coronavirus won’t cause pneumonia. I’m just saying so does the flu which again kills 30-60 thousand people on average per year in the US. In fact a specific strain of the Coronavirus (not the novel Coronavirus) is one of the viruses that causes the common flu.

As I said people should check on reputable sources of information like the department of health, CDC etc and not pander to media hype.

Reading this comment, there is no hope for humanity!
If Coronavirus won't kill human, I think their giant ego which yells out "I am smarter than everyone else" will surely be the doom of us all.

You should definitely go to Wuhan yourself and let us know whether it is media hype or for real. After all, like you said, even if you get the virus, it's just common cold; you will get over it.

[Meng]

Reading this comment, there is no hope for humanity!
If Coronavirus won't kill human, I think their giant ego which yells out "I am smarter than everyone else" will surely be the doom of us all.

You should definitely go to Wuhan yourself and let us know whether it is media hype or for real. After all, like you said, even if you get the virus, it's just common cold; you will get over it.

All I’m saying is be well informed and get your information from reputable sources. Do you disagree with this statement?

Can I ask where you get your sources of information from? I hope it’s not news.com.au lol

[davies1520]

I am surprised not many people are doing this. Easy just switch off for a while before going punting. So no traces whatsoever.

I have deleted location history from google before. Heck you can delete your entire data from google if you wish. Hard to keep up though, coz alot of things are set to on as default

Yeah, sometimes it gets locations wildly wrong as well. I was using it to help my memory while filling out a time sheet and it placed me at a company in Silverwater that was in direct competition with my current employer at that time. The nearest I'd been was a train from epping to city via strathfield.

Deleted that shit asap before anyone saw it over my shoulder, and stopped using the "feature".

[GoldfishMan]

Looks like the mortality rate is coming down.

That's 2.01%, I think it was 2.07% before.

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Use common sense and think about it. Number of deaths divided by number of people having it.... Do you really believe that's the correct way to calculate mortality rate?
The real rate is actually number of deaths vs number of recoveries... People who have got it and then recovered from it. That number is not yet being published widely simply because it is such a new virus.
Therefore, I personally rubbish any claims at mortality rates at this point. Up to you what you want to do

[Meng]

I look at more than one source. The main sources for my previous comment were the who and johns Hopkins for numbers, and a couple of case reports, particularly one in the new England journal of med from the first case in the USA. We do not have a lot of good information at this stage.

The flu can be a serious disease too. Seasonal flu is not. If we had a flu strain in China with similar characteristics to this Coronavirus, it would also be a serious situation. If bird flu started human to human transmission, I would seriously consider heading for the hills.

There is more to assessing the danger of an outbreak than just the mortality rate. We could have 200 cases of Ebola in Sydney and I probably would not be very concerned.

It is almost inevitable now that this outbreak will establish in Australia at some point. It is hard to say how it will go when it does. Hopefully we will cope better than the Chinese but that will come down mostly to chance. If we can keep it out this winter it would help a lot. I expect europe to be affected over their coming winter and there will be a lot of lessons from that.

WHO and JH is a reputable source. Can you link me to some of the articles. I’m genuinely interested in reading about it.

[AHLUNGOR]

Latest figures:

Confirmed Coronavirus cases in China now over 30,000

Deads 630 (618 were from the WuBei province)

[AHLUNGOR]

Chill out dude. You’re playing into the media’s hands in trying to convince people it’s the end of the world. .

Sorry Meng,

If that's made you felt this way.

Just trying to keep an eye on the progress of the crisis. and looking forward to seeing the figures started slowing down or dropping and people getting well and can be released to go home !

[wilisno]

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-02/06/c_138758836.htm

[Riff888]

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-02/06/c_138758836.htmHope it works

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[muni7ad]

I was wondering a bit about all this myself. I don't think there's really too many concerns. The passport scanning seems insane.

I have noticed some shops posting notices about how they aren't letting any girls who have been to China in for the next couple of weeks to put punters minds at ease.

[snapjaw]

I've been hearing that this virus can cause a 'cykotine storm' which can inflict fatal damage to the lungs of otherwise healthy young people. The doctor who first tried to raise awareness of the coronavirus has passed away at 34 (RIP hero), he was young and apparently healthy beforehand, and looking forward to helping out again once he'd recovered. From Feb 1 when he was first diagnosed it only took 5 days till deceased.

Some links here, admittedly I am not a medical expert so maybe someone with some actual knowledge can chip in and clarify or correct me. Links are from Reddit comments.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30211-7/fulltext
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2820%2930183-5/fulltext

Not trying to scare people or anything but I think more information is better than none. I think Australia is pretty safe for the moment, however we still need to be vigilant. Keep an eye on the surrounding Asian countries, hopefully they don't suddenly blow up too.

[Brothelcreeper]

It’s the end of the world as we know it

And I feel fine

REM

[dt333]

Use common sense and think about it. Number of deaths divided by number of people having it.... Do you really believe that's the correct way to calculate mortality rate?
The real rate is actually number of deaths vs number of recoveries...

WTF are you talking about? The mortality rate is the percentage of people dying who have/had the Coronavirus. So it's simple maths. Total number of deaths divided by total confirmed cases. Around 2%.

Going by your formula: Total deaths divided by total recoveries you end up with a figure around 40%.

Live stats from:
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/from-australia-to-the-us-and-uk-highsecurity-coronavirus-camps-are-sheltering-wuhan-evacuees/news-story/883731ee030debb4c741f3eed5ca67fb

[muni7ad]

I've been hearing that this virus can cause a 'cykotine storm' which can inflict fatal damage to the lungs of otherwise healthy young people. The doctor who first tried to raise awareness of the coronavirus has passed away at 34 (RIP hero), he was young and apparently healthy beforehand, and looking forward to helping out again once he'd recovered. From Feb 1 when he was first diagnosed it only took 5 days till deceased.

Some links here, admittedly I am not a medical expert so maybe someone with some actual knowledge can chip in and clarify or correct me. Links are from Reddit comments.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30211-7/fulltext
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2820%2930183-5/fulltext

Not trying to scare people or anything but I think more information is better than none. I think Australia is pretty safe for the moment, however we still need to be vigilant. Keep an eye on the surrounding Asian countries, hopefully they don't suddenly blow up too.

So he did die then. Had heard that was false and he was just really sick and so now he has died.

A pity too he was investigated for spreading rumours when he tried to warn people...

[Pleck]

So he did die then. Had heard that was false and he was just really sick and so now he has died.

A pity too he was investigated for spreading rumours when he tried to warn people...

Too true but what do you expect

[LoveGlove]

On a more positive note, brothels are now providing punters with face masks to stop the spread of Coronavirus.

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[GoldfishMan]

I think he is referring to the fact that some of those who are classed are infected and currently alive will end up dying. So dead over total infected will underestimate the death rate because you are assuming they will all recover. You could instead apportion those that are alive infected according to the ratio of dead to recovered.

But that wouldn't be accurate either ss it probably takes longer to recover than it did to die. So I couldn't be bothered calculating it as it's too early to get an accurate death rate anyway. 2% isn't accurate, it's just an early indication. 2%of those infected have died *so far *.
Yes that is what I meant.

[F0x]

On a more positive note, brothels are now providing punters with face masks to stop the spread of Coronavirus.

69906

LOOL!!

As for the rates, it should be 2 different calculations right?

A mortality and recovery?

If you have it and you pass away from it = part of mortality stat

If you have it and recover = part of recovery stat.

I cant be bothered to crunch the numbers but anyone got those? This will tell us essentially how "Strong" the virus. I.e high recovery and low mortality means its weak and vice versa.

[GoldfishMan]

I've been hearing that this virus can cause a 'cykotine storm' which can inflict fatal damage to the lungs of otherwise healthy young people. The doctor who first tried to raise awareness of the coronavirus has passed away at 34 (RIP hero), he was young and apparently healthy beforehand, and looking forward to helping out again once he'd recovered. From Feb 1 when he was first diagnosed it only took 5 days till deceased.

Some links here, admittedly I am not a medical expert so maybe someone with some actual knowledge can chip in and clarify or correct me. Links are from Reddit comments.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30211-7/fulltext
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2820%2930183-5/fulltext

Not trying to scare people or anything but I think more information is better than none. I think Australia is pretty safe for the moment, however we still need to be vigilant. Keep an eye on the surrounding Asian countries, hopefully they don't suddenly blow up too.
Correct spelling is cytokine storm.... Causes your own immune system to attack your own body, which is why healthier, stronger people die from it more often than weaker ones. The Spanish Flu from 1918 - 1919 caused the same condition, killed mostly otherwise young and healthy people.
I didn't hear this rumour but Geez if this new virus really causes cytokine storm, we are seriously fucked. That shit is really really hard to recover from!

[snapjaw]

Thanks for the correction Goldfish, I told you I wasn't an expert [emoji23]

Right now the official recovery rate looks better than mortalities but given the rumours of mass cremations by the Chinese authorities, I'm wondering what the real numbers are like.

[muni7ad]

Too true but what do you expect

I know but can dream. Would have been dealt with by now if responded earlier maybe.. Flashbacks of that Chernobyl series with playing things down until they no longer could.

[muni7ad]

LOOL!!

As for the rates, it should be 2 different calculations right?

A mortality and recovery?

If you have it and you pass away from it = part of mortality stat

If you have it and recover = part of recovery stat.

I cant be bothered to crunch the numbers but anyone got those? This will tell us essentially how "Strong" the virus. I.e high recovery and low mortality means its weak and vice versa.

Wouldn't recovery just be 100 minus mortality? Or counting those still infected in some way.

Another break down could be serious problems. While mortality may be low I saw something saying that a large percent need mechanically assisted breathing while sick..

[AHLUNGOR]

Surprising stats coming out of Singapore this morning with 33 confirmed cases, which is a lot considering Hong Kong only has 26 ?

[muni7ad]

Surprising stats coming out of Singapore this morning with 33 confirmed cases, which is a lot considering Hong Kong only has 26 ?

Not much transmission with the HK protests so people not travelling much? Singapore being more honest or more recent count?

Maybe just luck.

[cuteguy]

The virus is spreading to many countries. Any plans to travel to countries in Asia would not be advisable and going on cruises now is a no no.

[muni7ad]

The virus is spreading to many countries. Any plans to travel to countries in Asia would not be advisable and going on cruises now is a no no.

A cruise ship got stopped out Japan or Australia recently and people are stuck there. Was thinking a cruise for this year but maybe not...

[snapjaw]

Cruise ships have tightened up controls now, no more guests recently arrived from China allowed, and you have to bring additional documentation to the ship, such as proof of address, recent bill showing your name & address here, passport etc (acquaintance is going on a cruise today). Hopefully should be enough to prevent any outbreaks on board.

[dt333]

Cruise ships are the worst place to catch something, lots of people in a confined area, always sharing contacts indirectly by touching taps, door knobs, railings etc.

One of the worst symptom of the Coronavirus is the inability to breathe properly. Probably wise to invest in an oxygen tank and mask.

[Clownfiesta]

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/virus-ship-diamond-princess-replenishes-at-sea-as-passengers-make-best-of-it/news-story/4fdc26bdfad0293f3dcb45f6d58e9418
Imagine being trapped in a small room as the virus spreads just outside your door and you can't disembark, absolutely terrifying.
On a positive note, the virus hasn't spread much here in NSW, its been stuck at 4 infected for some time now.

[muni7ad]

Cruise ships have tightened up controls now, no more guests recently arrived from China allowed, and you have to bring additional documentation to the ship, such as proof of address, recent bill showing your name & address here, passport etc (acquaintance is going on a cruise today). Hopefully should be enough to prevent any outbreaks on board.

That's really good to hear. Makes sense with how awful cruise ships are for sickness anyway. Might just end up with the healthiest cruises for a while with everyone being paranoid.

[muni7ad]

Cruise ships are the worst place to catch something, lots of people in a confined area, always sharing contacts indirectly by touching taps, door knobs, railings etc.

One of the worst symptom of the Coronavirus is the inability to breathe properly. Probably wise to invest in an oxygen tank and mask.

The main advice I've read is that washing your hands all the time is the best. After touching other people or surfaces for good sanitary practices..

The breathing part of the virus is scary with so many infected needing to be put in mechanical assist breathing

[muni7ad]

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/virus-ship-diamond-princess-replenishes-at-sea-as-passengers-make-best-of-it/news-story/4fdc26bdfad0293f3dcb45f6d58e9418
Imagine being trapped in a small room as the virus spreads just outside your door and you can't disembark, absolutely terrifying.
On a positive note, the virus hasn't spread much here in NSW, its been stuck at 4 infected for some time now.

Meanwhile QLD got its fifth confirm yesterday or the day before.

[kjai]

Royal Carribean banning all those with chinese passports on their cruises now - xenophobia escalating!

[hansmith]

Hoping not too many shops are affected by this and the recent rain/bushfires.

[lakeshow]

Hoping not too many shops are affected by this and the recent rain/bushfires.

This is so true. I feel for a lot of the businesses, not just the massage shops. I went out today, and because of the rain, many shops including food, drinks, and retail didn't even bother to open.

[AHLUNGOR]

Hoping not too many shops are affected by this and the recent rain/bushfires.


Go to Chinatown Haymarket to have a look around, or Chatswood and Eastwood, most of the places are deserted!

[LoveGlove]

Royal Carribean banning all those with chinese passports on their cruises now - xenophobia escalating!

There’s 2 ways of looking at it.
Every paying customer has a right for a service
AND
Every business has a right to protect their financial livelihood.

Cruise liners denying Chinese people entry is no different to Asian WLs denying Caucs or Blacks entry into their vaginas.
Both have valid financial/health reasons for doing so.

[toilet33]

So with the fears around catching nCoronavirus, are brothers still punting or waiting out the storm?

[BlackToad]

So with the fears around catching nCoronavirus, are brothers still punting or waiting out the storm?

I’m more worried about having to show my passport or, even worse my bank account at a brothel. Shouldn’t Ginza be able to lift this requirement after 2 weeks given the restrictions on travel from China will be longer than the incubation period?

[studsg]

So with the fears around catching nCoronavirus, are brothers still punting or waiting out the storm?Definitely seating it out for now. Lots of our ML and WL have gone to visit in China. Some say they haven't been back to China but I know some have been back but don't dare to say it. Even though the rest are from Jap or Thai and other places, but they hang out in the same small waiting room in the back of the shop.

I'm playing it safe for now.

Just means more availability for rest of the punters here[emoji6]

[Climax598]

Definitely seating it out for now. Lots of our ML and WL have gone to visit in China. Some say they haven't been back to China but I know some have been back but don't dare to say it. Even though the rest are from Jap or Thai and other places, but they hang out in the same small waiting room in the back of the shop.

I'm playing it safe for now.

Just means more availability for rest of the punters here[emoji6]
Just see how long you can holdout without punting.
This virus is going to be with us for a few months so hope you dick can holdup.

[Cayman]

Waiting it out, not take any chances. Im not so worried about the virus but how to explain where I got it! If it becomes you can catch it anywhere then I will reconsider.

[studsg]

Just see how long you can holdout without punting.
This virus is going to be with us for a few months so hope you dick can holdup.True that. Hence gonna fall back to plan B. Go with my 2 best punts, my left hand and right hand.

Also save up some cash for future punts [emoji6]

[lebman]

So with the fears around catching nCoronavirus, are brothers still punting or waiting out the storm?

My left hand is my best friend for the coming few weeks/months

[BAM]

Sounds like dry July had come early for some

[Coop]

I’ve had a few Thai massages over the past few weeks whilst I monitor the situation

[lynd84]

Tbf I went to top Ryde 190 on Monday. Probably really stupid of me but I needed a hit

ML was from China too though said she hadn’t been since September. Hmm

Really stupid of me and hope all is good.. gonna be a long two weeks

[2896ontheblock]

If it actually spreads that easily were all going to get it anyway. I rather just get it now and get good care before all the hospitals are filled with people.

[kjai]

own up, who's worn a face mask to go for a punt

[Nekman]

I’ve stopped punting and will take a break. Not worth the risk of 1.getting the virus 2. Explaining where I got it from.

The girls can even get if from a customer and don’t show symptoms themselves for a couple of weeks but pass it onto others.

[deep_explorer]

I think wearing a mask while entering and leaving an MP is a good protection from friends and family. Anyway, I am staying away from all chinese talent for some time.

[studsg]

Tbf I went to top Ryde 190 on Monday. Probably really stupid of me but I needed a hit

ML was from China too though said she hadn’t been since September. Hmm

Really stupid of me and hope all is good.. gonna be a long two weeksYeah. I see a number of Chinese ML at shops all over, who were listed as away in Jan for holidays are now back on the roster.

When I msg one of them whom I know has gone for a visit. She says she tells the customers she hasn't been back to avoid freaking them out.

[AHLUNGOR]

Yeah. I see a number of Chinese ML at shops all over, who were listed as away in Jan for holidays are now back on the roster.

When I msg one of them whom I know has gone for a visit. She says she tells the customers she hasn't been back to avoid freaking them out.


Some shops are doing the right thing in asking the ladies who recently returned back from China to stay home for two weeks before starting work, so everyone (including all the staff and customers) can have a peace of mind. LIKE !

[aussiegaigin]

Nope, you can only get it from Chinese brothels.

What about Chinese restaurants?

[cuteguy]

What about Chinese restaurants?

I thought if there is anyone with the virus eating in any restaurant and is in close proximity to you there is a potential risk.

A friend of mine mentioned how he heard a young Chinese girl in a restaurant boasting to her friends that she had been to the affected area and did not disclose to Australian authorities that she had been there. I wonder what her friends were thinking sitting next to her and having their food.

[Pussyhands]

Man I am back 2 punting already

2weeks for symptoms to show up

Goto ginza and empire cause they closed during the quarantine

To me that’s a safer bet

[dt333]

They keep moving the goal post.
First they said you can't catch the virus during the incubation period, now you can.
They said the incubation period is up to 14 days, now it's up to 28 days.
They said the virus can only be spread through the mucous membranes (eyes, mouth, nose) now they find out the virus can survive in faeces.
They said the virus can't survive on surfaces now the virus can survive up to 9 days on surfaces. This may explain the spread of the virus on that cruise ship. The crew members with the virus may be spreading it through the food they prepare for the passengers in quarantine.

[Climax598]

They keep moving the goal post.
First they said you can't catch the virus during the incubation period, now you can.
They said the incubation period is up to 14 days, now it's up to 28 days.
They said the virus can only be spread through the mucous membranes (eyes, mouth, nose) now they find out the virus can survive in faeces.
They said the virus can't survive on surfaces now the virus can survive up to 9 days on surfaces. This may explain the spread of the virus on that cruise ship. The crew members with the virus may be spreading it through the food they prepare for the passengers in quarantine.
I think all the points you have highlighted are from China. So I don't know how accurate the news from China. I would just follow advices from Australian Health authorities. So far OZ advice is good we only have 15 cases as of today.

[studsg]

There you go, Chinese restaurants also obviously deadly so there’s your alibi!That would mean we have to avoid buses and trains too. Lots of ppl coughing and standing no more than 10cm from each other.

[dt333]

I think all the points you have highlighted are from China. So I don't know how accurate the news from China. I would just follow advices from Australian Health authorities. So far OZ advice is good we only have 15 cases as of today.

Nah man, this is coming from the Australian Health Authorities. I think the Australian summer is helping out a bit in bringing the number of infected down. Australia's quarantine is helping out too.
In China, it's winter over there. The flu viruses thrives in the winter where the temperature and humidity is low. Less sunlight in winter means people are generally low in Vitamin D - a hormone needed for a strong immune system. IMHO

[LoveGlove]

With all the fucking bullshit, misinformation, paranoia and batman stories floating about this article from the journal American medical association is as factual as you will get (for the time being).

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761044

For the cunts who can’t be bothered reading it here’s a summary:
- no specific treatment exists for coronavirus infection except for meticulous hospital/supportive care.
- face masks are only beneficial for infected people ie to help reduce the further spread and transmission of the virus.
- The use of hand sanitizers and antibacterial agents is ineffective.
- evidence suggests the spread of the virus to humans occurred via wild animals illegally sold in the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market
- The virus molecular makeup has similarities to bat coronaviruses
- More likely to be contracted by groups of humans in close contact
- Men are more vulnerable than women
- Youngest infected patient was 22 with the average age was 56
- More likely to affect older men with comorbidities ie with other existing medical conditions
- Traces of Coronavirus was found in stool (shit)
- The most common symptoms is fever, fatigue, dry cough, muscle pain, and breathing difficulties.
- Less common symptoms include headache, dizziness, abdominal pain, diarrhea, nausea, and vomiting.

With the cooler season/s just around the corner, unless they find a vaccine soon there’ll be plenty of confusion and false positives between the common cold/flu and Coronavirus.

[aussiegaigin]

I've heard it can be transmitted through beer too
69950:spook:

[Climax598]

[QUOTE=LoveGlove;1932296]
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761044

- face masks are only beneficial for infected people ie to help reduce the further spread and transmission of the virus.
- The use of hand sanitizers and antibacterial agents is ineffective.
/QUOTE]

Where do you get these ideas? They are not mentioned in that article.

Surgical masks do help although they provide only slight reduction in risk for the wearer. Their biggest benefit is to reduce face touching. When worn by a whole community they have been shown to reduce the spread of the flu. P2/N95 masks do protect the wearer when worn correctly, but they are a pita to wear correctly and they stop working when they get damp from your breath.

Where do you get the idea that hand sanitisers and anti bacterial agents are ineffective? That article doesn't mention it that I can see. I would really like to know. Sanitizers should be effective. Antibiotics are ineffective but most contact antibacterial agents should also inactivate the virus.

Also, men are probably not more vulnerable but smokers are. There are more male smokers than female in China.
Hand sanitizer only good if it have Alcohol in it. Look for hospital grade.

[gentleguy]

My local woolies was sold out of dettol hand sanitiser. It's just like baby formula people stocking up and selling to china.

[snapjaw]

I would have thought any new cases here would have been in the news by now. The reported mean incubation period is 3 days, and we haven't had any new cases in how long now? The longer we go without any new numbers, the safer it is right? It's almost 2 weeks since the ban, most of the incubating victims would have been diagnosed by now you'd think.

I think the greatest danger is getting it via Indonesia (which surprisingly has not reported even one case yet we are getting daily flights in and out) or other SEA countries like Thailand where they simply can't control it if it blows out.

At least China can quarantine their cities. If there was panic in Thailand for example, tourists would flee the country like flies off a turd (not calling any country a turd btw), potentially spreading it even faster.

My 2c. I hope it doesn't become reality. Happy to be proven wrong.

[wilisno]

All 4 patients confirmed to have the virus in Australia have all been cured and discharged from hospitals.

Indonesia hasn’t had one reported case yet... but that doesn’t mean they’re immune, considering their system of quarantine and reporting.....

[wilisno]

Fair enough, all 4 from NSW have been discharged.

[annintofu]

I thought if there is anyone with the virus eating in any restaurant and is in close proximity to you there is a potential risk.

A friend of mine mentioned how he heard a young Chinese girl in a restaurant boasting to her friends that she had been to the affected area and did not disclose to Australian authorities that she had been there. I wonder what her friends were thinking sitting next to her and having their food.

Bad apples like this girl has really tarnished the image of Chinese people.

I hate dishonesty, but boasting your dishonesty in public is on a whole new level...

[AHLUNGOR]

First case confirmed in Africa !

Watch out world !

[Clownfiesta]

According to https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
4/4 from both NSW and VIC have recovered. This is great news, now we just have to be more careful about those coming in.

[thaipussyhunter]

Coronavirus Cases: 67,193

Deaths: 1,527

Recovered: 8,600

[bobobnu]

First case confirmed in Africa !

Watch out world !

wow. Africa...that's interesting. I though Ebola is stronger lol

[BlackToad]

Looking at Ginza roster today- they no longer have that warning about coronavirus and showing your passport etc..... looks like my normal anonymous punting schedule at 478 can resume.

[cuteguy]

wow. Africa...that's interesting. I though Ebola is stronger lol

First case in France now. An elderly Chinese tourist died. It's spreading guys!:surprise:

[iphone]

soon 70,000 cases
next month could be 100,000

[toilet33]

The problem with this virus is that you can't tell if the person has it as it is somehow transmissible even without symptoms. It's almost like Russian roulette. :(

[Idurian]

I love how in HK and Singapore aside from toilet paper they have been hoarding condoms too... I guess when you stuck at home you gotta.. Do what you gotta do.

[toilet33]

I'm glad there hasn't been an increase from teh 15 cases here in Australia. Hope that they will be able to keep it contained until the transmission rate comes back down and people recover from the illness.

[dt333]

Cambodia's president Hun Sen may have caught the caronavirus after greeting passengers docking from the Westerndam cruise ship. This was before knowing that one of the passenger had tested positive for the Caronavirus and may have infected others on that ship. Hope that brutal dictator dies from the Coronavirus, if anyone deserves it, it's Hun Sen.

Unfortunately, all those 1400+ passengers is now out and about in public and may have accelerated the global pandemic.

Prepare your immune system for battle gents.

[yug]

Cambodia's president Hun Sen may have caught the caronavirus after greeting passengers docking from the Westerndam cruise ship. This was before knowing that one of the passenger had tested positive for the Caronavirus and may have infected others on that ship. Hope that brutal dictator dies from the Coronavirus, if anyone deserves it, it's Hun Sen.

Unfortunately, all those 1400+ passengers is now out and about in public and may have accelerated the global pandemic.

Prepare your immune system for battle gents.

That would be quite ironical.
He is the one who said: "Nothing to fear but panic itself'

[kjai]

From what I can see through the stats, the infection numbers are flattening out, so hopefully the infection rate has peaked and we will go back to business as usual shortly

[Riff888]

Chinatown was back to it's usual form last night. Not many people walking around with masks on. It feels great, I think people are over it.

The government should lift the travel ban soon.

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[Pleck]

Chinatown was back to it's usual form last night. Not many people walking around with masks on. It feels great, I think people are over it.

The government should lift the travel ban soon.

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Hi Riff, on the news this morning it mentioned that a medical journal in the USA has just been released saying that about 40% of people are not being detected positive and that this is in all countries including Aust. Apparently this journal says that only a CT can definitely rule out being positive.

[jimbonz]

Chinatown was back to it's usual form last night. Not many people walking around with masks on. It feels great, I think people are over it.

The government should lift the travel ban soon.

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Should this be the opposite? Since the ban is working and we're not getting new cases meanwhile in China their numbers are still skyrocketing.

[studsg]

Hi Riff, on the news this morning it mentioned that a medical journal in the USA has just been released saying that about 40% of people are not being detected positive and that this is in all countries including Aust. Apparently this journal says that only a CT can definitely rule out being positive.Actually a CT scan can only show the onset of pneumonia which can be caused by multiple different strains of virus including the coronavirus. But is currently being recommended by WHO as the fastest initial test for classification purposes.

To confirm if a person has ncovid-19 a blood culture test is needed but takes a few days for the results. Plus like you say some people do not present symptoms, that's why only a blood test can tell 100% if a person is infected.

[Riff888]

I hope we are safe here in Sydney.

I'm always washing my hands whenever on public transport.

I just hope it's not too damaging to our economy.

But you're right, it's better to be safer because a pandemic would be worse for the economy for many years.

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[soembody]

2% mortality rate, stronger dose of flu, just media hype scaremongering

Yup, this everything has been blown out of proportion. Everything kills you these days...

[jimbonz]

2% mortality rate, stronger dose of flu, just media hype scaremongering

Which is roughly 1000x the rate of normal flu. Pretty strong dosage...

[AHLUNGOR]

2% mortality rate, stronger dose of flu, just media hype scaremongering

Try explain all that to the people on board the Diamond Princess ?

[Pleck]

Actually a CT scan can only show the onset of pneumonia which can be caused by multiple different strains of virus including the coronavirus. But is currently being recommended by WHO as the fastest initial test for classification purposes.

To confirm if a person has ncovid-19 a blood culture test is needed but takes a few days for the results. Plus like you say some people do not present symptoms, that's why only a blood test can tell 100% if a person is infected.

Sorry I made a mistake. This was actually from the chief of infectious diseases in the UK

[Pleck]

I hope we are safe here in Sydney.

I'm always washing my hands whenever on public transport.

I just hope it's not too damaging to our economy.

But you're right, it's better to be safer because a pandemic would be worse for the economy for many years.

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Our economy is in deep trouble but we are not told much. We are also taking a big hit with corona virus and the fires which haven't really sunk in yet money wise.

[Climax598]

Our economy is in deep trouble but we are not told much. We are also taking a big hit with corona virus and the fires which haven't really sunk in yet money wise.
Don't need to be told the economy is bad. Just look at the retail shops are closing and wages not increasing. Even without the bushfire and Covid-19 virus the economy is not doing well.

[Riff888]

Our economy is in deep trouble but we are not told much. We are also taking a big hit with corona virus and the fires which haven't really sunk in yet money wise.Yep, a possible recession on the way maybe?

I just read that HSBC is in big trouble with profits down 33% last year and they are looking to axe 35k jobs.

All the trouble in HK, plus the virus and the attack on Huawei. Things just don't add up.

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[Pussy HUnter]

Retrospect terrific summary thank you.

There is also a compelling account from an infectious disease expert who visited the Diamond Princess. It shows how being reliant on "authorities" and "officials" can be a recipe for disaster. Clearly there was poor infection control protocol on the ship which explains why so many pax became infected. There was no-one actually in charge of infection control. He tried to assist with pretty obvious suggestions but was turned away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtHYZkLuKcI&fbclid=IwAR0PRY-i8eQS3Qh0-4_LemGhEh19upWMxBSwUbzaNaakR4bvp22onJ-mOYo

Update: The YouTube link has been censored and removed. How is it hat these global tech social media companies allow mass murderers to live stream their antics but censor an infectious disease expert comments on a looming pandemic?

If you like conspiracy theories there are many, but my favorite is the lady who was selling animals from the Wuhan Virology Lab to the live animal market.

Take care folks - stay safe.

[Pleck]

Don't need to be told the economy is bad. Just look at the retail shops are closing and wages not increasing. Even without the bushfire and Covid-19 virus the economy is not doing well.

I was responding to Riff, it wasn't a general comment...

[CarnalConquerer]

I'm glad that most in here are concerned and about this and don't just think its fluff/fear mongering generated by the media for ratings. If China responded by locking down cities and it's allies closed borders faster than Subways in Australia then it's a pretty good indication that it's not a just a bit more contagious and deadly than the seasonal flu. Best look and analyse the things they do rather than what they say.

[DownUnda]

2500 by the end of the month.

[jimbonz]

Headless chicken panicking for nothing. End of the world bu##sh##.
News flash - The flu has killed more than 10000 in the US. By end end of the Flu season 15000 Americans will die, now compare that to the new virus.

What's with the smug intellectual dishonesty? Roughly 8% of the US population gets the flu each flu season or roughly 26,000,000 people. Now compare that to the number of people infected with corona.

[GoldfishMan]

Headless chicken panicking for nothing. End of the world bu##sh##.
News flash - The flu has killed more than 10000 in the US. By end end of the Flu season 15000 Americans will die, now compare that to the new virus.
Yep, all the experts, journalists, the WHO, entire governments of countries, all got it wrong, but some guy called hookerbanger on an internet forum got it right.

[GoldfishMan]

hmmm.
for everyone's information. the virus has now been named SARS-CoV2, or SARS coronavirus type 2. the disease caused by SARS-CoV-2 has been named COVID19 (from coronavirus disease 2019).

now to correct some errors for anyone interested. If you aren't interested, don't read it:

the best test to determine if you are infected is RT-PCR from upper respiratory tract swabs (lower respiratory tract would be even better, but collecting these is not something you would want to do to everyone). RT-PCR detects the viral RNA directly. if you are clear on RT-PCR you are considered not infected. if you have had COVID19 and are negative on RT-PCR from swabs twice you are considered recovered.

A lung x-ray will reveal pneumonia and there are apparently characteristic changes in coronavirus that are not typical of bacterial or other viral pneumonias - our doctors have almost no experience with this but apparently the chinese drs are now able to spot these changes and give a positive diagnosis reliably. if you are clear on lung x-ray that does NOT mean you are not infected.

testing blood is not currently useful. standard blood cultures will certainly show nothing wrt coronavirus. Serological testing of blood for antibodies to the virus would be cheaper and faster than RT-PCR and be as good at diagnosis (at least for symptomatic people) BUT serological testing is not available anywhere yet. culturing the virus is the first step to developing these tests so maybe they will become available soon.

those who think 2% fatality rate is low should get good at maths. 2% of the Australian population is about half a million people. modelling (I don't remember where from, sorry) predicted 60% of the population to become infected in a pandemic. also the fatality rate is not a fixed figure. it varies based on available treatment and other factors. treatment for serious cases consists of keeping you alive (with oxygen and sometimes ventilation) long enough for you to fight off the infection. if we are unable to treat everyone the fatality rate will probably be higher. this is probably what is happening in Wuhan now - people are dying who would live if they had sufficient resources to treat them.

atm, Australia doesn't appear to have any cases. but the world is on the verge of or in the early stages of a pandemic. China is taking incredible action to try to contain a very large epidemic. It may already be wild in India, Thailand, Singapore, and some other SE Asian countries, and maybe Africa. A pandemic is still more likely than containment. But we might contain it. It might mutate to become less virulent. We might develop a vaccine, or we might find an effective antiviral and it becomes an easily treatable infection. Fingers crossed.

What worries me most about this scenario is the economic impact, but that just reveals how people think - I should be more worried that I survive without serious illness. It is just that I can envisage the economic risk more readily.

Happy punting while you still can!
For what it's worth, awesome post, Retro.
This epidemic is turning out to be a real "black swan" event for the economy. It doesn't even have to be a pandemic to wreak economic havoc, only the fact that the epicenter is in the middle of China is enough.
And I don't understand why this new virus is being compared mainly to SARS but not to the 2009 swine flu pandemic. That was more recent, allowing for the effects of more widespread travel to be accounted for. How many budget Airlines were there in 2002 vs 2009?
The 2009 swine flu killed an estimated 500k people in total, 37k in Australia alone.
What has not happened before is a flu epidemic of the same scale as SARS/swine flu/coronavirus hitting the economy when it is at or near bubble territory. I mean, SARS hit right after the dotcom bubble burst and the 2009 Swine flu hit right after the GFC, so both are not good indicators of this scenario. Now coronavirus hits exactly when there is a lot of money in the world chasing ever inflating assets, interest rates being at rock bottom ... What's going to happen?

[snapjaw]

those who think 2% fatality rate is low should get good at maths. 2% of the Australian population is about half a million people.

So true. That's 1 in 50 people. Even just 1% more would mean 1 in 33 people, a big difference.

By the way it looks like more aged people are dying (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/) instead of the young and healthy, which sounds like it discounts the cytokine storm theory. However I couldn't find any infected by age group page on the site.

[GoldfishMan]

Australia had 37,000 confirmed infections and according to the ABS, 77 deaths...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_Australia
Thank you for correcting my mistake, but that Wikipedia page is outdated. The number has been revised to 190 deaths in Australia from 2009 swine flu.

[cuteguy]

I'm wondering what is it like in Thailand and whether there have been any deaths. With so much sex on offer and physical contact you would expect it would be spreading quickly in most capitals.

[AHLUNGOR]

164 Australian passengers returning from the Diamond Princess currently in quarantine - 2 have just tested positive, Australia now have 17 confirmed cases

[iphone]

And sudden increase cases in South Korea?!?!
Imagine Ginza without Korean and Chinese girls... Oh....

[toilet33]

China is probably starting to plateau, but it is just the start for the other countries... :(

[Sabotage]

Expected to see a lot more face masks in Hurstville. Not many really. Restaurant manger told me turnover down 70% which is terrible. Commentators telling people to get out and support your local Chinatown and don’t discriminate. I would have thought 50-70% of business in a Chinatown is from fellow Chinese

[Pleck]

Expected to see a lot more face masks in Hurstville. Not many really. Restaurant manger told me turnover down 70% which is terrible. Commentators telling people to get out and support your local Chinatown and don’t discriminate. I would have thought 50-70% of business in a Chinatown is from fellow Chinese

Face masks don't prevent absorption through the eyes which is a proven form of transmission

[dt333]

Man, every day there's always some bad news about Covid-19. Now they're finding traces of the virus still remaining on "recovered" patients.

[BuryYourDead]

Its definitely put a halt to my punting.
Fuck bringing that home.

[Pleck]

Well now they a saying the incubation period could be twice as long as first thought. This has a long way to go I think.

[AHLUNGOR]

I think we should pay more intention to the situations in South Korea and Italy! The sudden big surge of infected cases to 433 and 79 respectively is no laughing matter.

And the Morrison government is now opening the doors for Chinese students and their families to return from China, big mistake and way too early ??

Good luck to us all !

[cuteguy]

I think we should pay more intention to the situations in South Korea and Italy! The sudden big surge of infected cases to 433 and 79 respectively is no laughing matter.

And the Morrison government is now opening the doors for Chinese students and their families to return from China, big mistake and way too early ??

Good luck to us all !

It's all about money! The Chinese students keep our universities afloat (I heard there were 200,000 Chinese students in Australia). If this is true, that's a huge injection of money into the Australian economy.

It appears some Chinese students have found a way to get around the travel ban and arrive in Australia from China. Go to Thailand stay for 2 weeks and then travel to Australia. No wonder some people are raising concerns with the Australian government's decision to let students into the country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Niz-R_Pw9Cs&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgUPbeYB78A

[studsg]

It's all about money! The Chinese students keep our universities afloat (I heard there were 200,000 Chinese students in Australia). If this is true, that's a huge injection of money into the Australian economy.

It appears some Chinese students have found a way to get around the travel ban and arrive in Australia from China. Go to Thailand stay for 2 weeks and then travel to Australia. No wonder some people are raising concerns with the Australian government's decision to let students into the country.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Niz-R_Pw9Cs&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgUPbeYB78AIt's not that much different from Australian Chinese who has returned from China and stayed at home for 14 days as self quarantine. If these students spend 14 days in Thailand they meet the rule for not being in China 14 days before entry.

I'm more worried about Indonesia our dear neighbour reporting 0 cases even with hundreds thousands of Chinese tourists visiting until the end of Jan. Wondering how accurate is their reporting....

[GoldfishMan]

The virus can spread through a fart, but only if you take a "good, hard" sniff of it:
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1180514.shtml
I hope they did the research to back this up, lol!

[AHLUNGOR]

So much speculation!
You guys need to chill the fuck out...

Mate, it’s all precautionary and it’s a serious matter. Just look at South Korea, a week ago they might only have 20+ confirmed cases then in the matter of days, bang bang bang ! They now have over 600+ cases and already 6 death which is 1% fatalities!

And over in Europe you got Italy, it went from just a few to 134 (jumped 55 new cases in a day!) with 2 deaths already,

But the highest fatality rate yet came from all places but Iran ! 43 cases with 8 deaths! That’s 18% man.

As the Coronavirus now seems to be randomly popping up different continents of the world , it’s Not the time to relax any quarantine policy or entry restrictions! We don’t want to be the next headline , no ?

[Pleck]

Mate, it’s all precautionary and it’s a serious matter. Just look at South Korea, a week ago they might only have 20+ confirmed cases then in the matter of days, bang bang bang ! They now have over 600+ cases and already 6 death which is 1% fatalities!

And over in Europe you got Italy, it went from just a few to 134 (jumped 55 new cases in a day!) with 2 deaths already,

But the highest fatality rate yet came from all places but Iran ! 43 cases with 8 deaths! That’s 18% man.

As the Coronavirus now seems to be randomly popping up different continents of the world , it’s Not the time to relax any quarantine policy or entry restrictions! We don’t want to be the next headline , no ?

I think it will happen here, it's just a matter of time.

[Pleck]

The stock market has started to factor in that this is more serious than first thought and has opened a lot lower this morning and our dollar has also dropped again.

[AHLUNGOR]

Not sure how hysterical speculation is helping any of this but keep up the good work then!

Where was the “speculation”? Only stating the facts here ! And some of the numbers I quoted earlier have just gone up higher too !

And for all of our sake , this is Not the time to relax and take it easy mate . It’s always better to do more to prevent the infection from spreading in Australia than doing too little too late or wondering what could have been when we made the world headlines?

[F0x]

Like I said, keep up the good work! You’re definitely preventing the infection from spreading!

Come on now mate, no need to be condescending. I am not panicking over this either, but some people are more concerned than others and thats perfectly ok.

The only thing for the guys worrying about numbers is that they dont tell you the whole story and can seem alarming at first glance. E.g Irans mortality rate. But please bear in mind that places like Iran PROBABLY (I cant say for certain having never been there) dont have the level of medical care that for example we do, so the mortality rate is probably going to be higher.

I think the key thing to bear in mind is the simple facts, it appears the Corona is basically the Flu but less deadly, more contagious.

End of the day, as long as the lethality of the virus is low, its not really an issue. Yes, it will cost businesses in downtime for staff, but its just in the long line of things causing that, from IDGAF syndrome to I tried to out-headbutt a pole and lost so ill be concussed for a few days.

I feel like the real issue is the position its putting asians in. I have been very lucky, i have not felt any predjudice from anyone so far and not seen any apart from for behaviour which would clearly warrant it, pushing in line, spitting, the usual.

But i have heard/seen docos on the situation in America. People literally have signs there saying they dont serve Chinese on their shops, or people on trains pushing asians off telling them not to infect the train.

I am actually so thankful its not like that here so far.

Just live and love and let live.

Be safe AL

[AHLUNGOR]

This is about the latest out break in South Korea:


另一方面，南韓早前一個到以色列的39人朝聖團，至今增至28人確診，據報大部分確診者回國後第二日去溫泉 、餐廳等公共設施，或如常上班及參加團體活動，相信社區傳播風險較大。當局表示，由於朝聖團全部是慶北地區 居民，加上以色列尚未出現社區傳播，確診者很可能在南韓國內感染病毒後，在旅遊期間交叉感染。

Brief Translation:

A church group of 39 korean people went to Israel for pilgrimage . Upon return, now 28 people from the group had been confirmed. And after their return, they have done the usual day to day things of going to work , visit hot spring, dining out in restaurants etc so how much risks this specific group had imposed to their local community is unknown ! Nothing reported from Israel side yet, but you would think the whole country will be very nervous won’t you ??

[annintofu]

It's not that much different from Australian Chinese who has returned from China and stayed at home for 14 days as self quarantine. If these students spend 14 days in Thailand they meet the rule for not being in China 14 days before entry.

I'm more worried about Indonesia our dear neighbour reporting 0 cases even with hundreds thousands of Chinese tourists visiting until the end of Jan. Wondering how accurate is their reporting....

should ban all travel from Indonesia,.
even safer: ban all citizens of China, Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Cambodia, etc. until a proven vaccine is found.

[annintofu]

Mate, it’s all precautionary and it’s a serious matter. Just look at South Korea, a week ago they might only have 20+ confirmed cases then in the matter of days, bang bang bang ! They now have over 600+ cases and already 6 death which is 1% fatalities!

And over in Europe you got Italy, it went from just a few to 134 (jumped 55 new cases in a day!) with 2 deaths already,

But the highest fatality rate yet came from all places but Iran ! 43 cases with 8 deaths! That’s 18% man.

As the Coronavirus now seems to be randomly popping up different continents of the world , it’s Not the time to relax any quarantine policy or entry restrictions! We don’t want to be the next headline , no ?

absolutely agree.
the so called chief medical officer and his cronies should take personal responsibility for his stupid decision to relax entry rules for some 700+ students.
if he can put them all up in his backyard, fine by me. (but probably not his family or neighbors)

[AHLUNGOR]

I think we need to keep a very close eyes on the people returning from the Diamond Princess.

Reports from Hong Kong is that the way the Japanese medical people checking and clearing the passengers as Not infected is rather basic and not too reliable:

The fact is, 14 people from the US chartered flights have now tested positive and even Trump is blowing up on the people in charge of that.

England has the same problem with passengers coming from with positive once arrived in UK.

And half a dozen people from the Hong Kong Flights are now positive and they were all cleared by the Japanese authorities !!

Not targeting anyone or any group, but the well being of the mass must be of greater importance and priority over the few. and it is not if or buts that the whole cruise ship is basically a massive infected domain and absolutely No one should be allowed back into the community until they have been tested thoroughly with all available resources and technologies !!

[Pleck]

I think we need to keep a very close eyes on the people returning from the Diamond Princess.

Reports from Hong Kong is that the way the Japanese medical people checking and clearing the passengers as Not infected is rather basic and not too reliable:

The fact is, 14 people from the US chartered flights have now tested positive and even Trump is blowing up on the people in charge of that.

England has the same problem with passengers coming from with positive once arrived in UK.

And half a dozen people from the Hong Kong Flights are now positive and they were all cleared by the Japanese authorities !!

Not targeting anyone or any group, but the well being of the mass must be of greater importance and priority over the few. and it is not if or buts that the whole cruise ship is basically a massive infected domain and absolutely No one should be allowed back into the community until they have been tested thoroughly with all available resources and technologies !!

Australia is too soft with other nations and won't be strong enough to bring in strong measures with the fear of upsetting them. The horse has bolted and the stock markets are now realising this will take far longer to sort out. Welcome to the impendlng recession later this year.

[Niceguy11]

Australia is too soft with other nations and won't be strong enough to bring in strong measures with the fear of upsetting them. The horse has bolted and the stock markets are now realising this will take far longer to sort out. Welcome to the impendlng recession later this year.

I was just thinking that. The flow on effect is the big thing isn't it. People get sick, can't work, production slows down then stock markets etc etc.

[Pleck]

I was just thinking that. The flow on effect is the big thing isn't it. People get sick, can't work, production slows down then stock markets etc etc.

Yes, China and the world was showing signs of slowing even before coronavirus. Our dollar is at the lowest level in around 11 years, car, retail sales are crashing, interest rates are nearly zero, the drought etc etc. China's production is slowing and I doubt that Trump can keep the US stock market on the boil as coronavirus is just about a pandemic now. Imagine how insurance rates will rise after the fires, floods, food price rises etc etc. Lucky I am a positive man. Actually 4 Corners tonight is about the coronavirus I think. Might sit back and watch it with a Corona and a slice of lime.

[Pleck]

if you've gotta put fruit in your beer then you're drinking the wrong beer

will be interesting to see how this whole pandemic plays out, i reckon soon enough all rich people will be living in gated communities or on an island like madagascar while the rest of us die out

You need to get a sense of humour.

[Pleck]

“ Professor Lyn Gilbert, senior researcher at the University of Sydney's Marie Bashir Institute for Infectious Disease and Biosecurity, said the virus would spread throughout Australia “sooner or later”.
"There’s no reason to think it will spread like wildfire through the community or cause chaos," she said. “

“ Coronavirus poses a very small risk to healthy people aged under 60.
“They will have an unremarkable illness comparable to a common cold,” Professor McMillan said. “

https://www.smh.com.au/national/experts-warn-of-global-coronavirus-pandemic-and-local-sport-cancellations-20200224-p543u0.html

Everyone should go and watch Four Corners on iview that was aired tonight. Especially you cockoftheroot

[jimbonz]

“ Professor Lyn Gilbert, senior researcher at the University of Sydney's Marie Bashir Institute for Infectious Disease and Biosecurity, said the virus would spread throughout Australia “sooner or later”.
"There’s no reason to think it will spread like wildfire through the community or cause chaos," she said. “

“ Coronavirus poses a very small risk to healthy people aged under 60.
“They will have an unremarkable illness comparable to a common cold,” Professor McMillan said. “

https://www.smh.com.au/national/experts-warn-of-global-coronavirus-pandemic-and-local-sport-cancellations-20200224-p543u0.html

Universities who are lobbying the government to get their $$$$$$$ money back, I'm sure they don't have any conflict of interest.

[studsg]

I think we need to keep a very close eyes on the people returning from the Diamond Princess.

Reports from Hong Kong is that the way the Japanese medical people checking and clearing the passengers as Not infected is rather basic and not too reliable:

The fact is, 14 people from the US chartered flights have now tested positive and even Trump is blowing up on the people in charge of that.

England has the same problem with passengers coming from with positive once arrived in UK.

And half a dozen people from the Hong Kong Flights are now positive and they were all cleared by the Japanese authorities !!

Not targeting anyone or any group, but the well being of the mass must be of greater importance and priority over the few. and it is not if or buts that the whole cruise ship is basically a massive infected domain and absolutely No one should be allowed back into the community until they have been tested thoroughly with all available resources and technologies !!Aren't those returning from the Diamond Princess subject to 14 day quarantine in Darwin before release into general population ?

[Pleck]

Whilst this may be true, I'm sure you probably have a loved one or know someone that you're in contact with that falls into that age demographic.

Being relatively healthy despite nearing middle age, I think I'll be ok and will get nothing but a really bad case of the flu if I was to be infected.

However, I'm more concerned about becoming a carrier who might manage to infect my loved ones and people around me, who may not have a strong enough immune system to combat it.

Well the Chinese doctor that discovered it was healthy in his early 30's and it killed him.

[eepee]

Well the Chinese doctor that discovered it was healthy in his early 30's and it killed him.
Well that's a scary thought isn't it.

I'm guessing most guys here would be around that mark.

Stay safe out there guys!

[freshjive]

My thought on this....punt as much while you can. If we all gonna die from this fucking virus might as well die knowing that i have fucked all ginza girls.
Some of my friends even believe that the virus was man made to infect only the asian gene.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rw4z-rSwNjY&feature=youtu.be

[AHLUNGOR]

Latest update outside of China:

Iran: 47 cases, 12 deaths

Italy: 229 cases, 6 deaths

S Korea: 833 cases, 7 deaths

From the Diamond Princess alone: worldwide 691 cases, 3 deaths .

[Clownfiesta]

I agree with AHL here, cases outside of China have spiked so we have to be vigilant about who we have to let in. Its not fear mongering, better to be safe than sorry. I really hope these rumors of a longer incubation are not true, 14 days is already a long time.

[God Member]

The Chinese authorities don't muck around! On four corners there was footage of screaming people being dragged out by crews wearing haz mats, bundled into vans and driven off. And other footage of them welding shut the doors of apartment blocks to make sure the residents go nowhere.

Then on Q and I there was a guy from the Chinese embassy tying himself in knots trying to justify the Chinese regime generally (not to do with the virus.) I felt sorry for him, he knowing he was sweating under the observation of the CCP.

Vicky Xu, the journalist was on the panel too. She might have a buzz cut, but I found her to be very cute :D she'd be better with some hair though.

[wilisno]

One WL from Wuhan who works in Singapore has been confirmed to have coronavirus, now the Singapore government has got the list of clients she had seen, they will be rounded up to go for quarantine, and the name list might be published to alert people who had associated with them to get checked up !

[AHLUNGOR]

One WL from Wuhan who works in Singapore has been confirmed to have coronavirus, now the Singapore government has got the list of clients she had seen, they will be rounded up to go for quarantine, and the name list might be published to alert people who had associated with them to get checked up !

Must be this one , case number 26:

42-year-old woman
Chinese national from Wuhan, arrived in Singapore on Jan 21

[jimbonz]

I wonder if a girl gets it here they will get the shops clients and round them up as well?

110% They need to track the source and everyone that's been in contact since.

[Climax598]

I wonder if a girl gets it here they will get the shops clients and round them up as well?
Yes they can round you up if can find you/ know who you are. If you seen Q & A the lady in the panel explain the government can round people up with infection like Clovid-19.

[Pussy HUnter]

China is probably starting to plateau, but it is just the start for the other countries... :(

Unfortunately when you have the nine members of Xi's team in charge of the virus outbreak all members of the propaganda unit of the CCP with no health care professionals, then the outcome will be of course zero infected and zero deaths.

[cuteguy]

In South Korea and Japan, the number of infected cases is on the rise. The Olympic Games are being hosted by Japan this year. I wonder how the virus epidemic will affect these Games. Surely many tourists/visitors will not travel to Japan and this will hit Japan hard because it would want to benefit from the tourist dollar.

[Climax598]

Well that is a big worry to any punter with a partner.
If infection is pandemic than government can close all the shops like a lock down in China, Italy, Korea. Just hope we don't have to go this way.

[azzzn]

I'm just waiting for telegraph or something to report brothels are losing income just like the reports on Chinatown and restaurants experiencing downturn of business by 70% or something


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[God Member]

Noooo...I'm really looking forward to the Tokyo games. Mainly the opening ceremony which will showcase so much tradtional culture. I'm pretty sure Perfume will be performing too.

ps. And if I see one more fat, overweight ochre smeared aborigine waving around smoking leaves for 20 minutes and calling that an entertaining opening ceremony I'll scream, as at the Commonwealth games in Brisbane.

[wilisno]

A further comment from that piece of Singapore news stated that the survival rate of the virus is 98% so far, but the survival rate of the marriages after this incident is 2%.

[Cayman]

Asking this half jokingly, but are you more likely to catch coronavirus if you daty?

[Clownfiesta]

I'm just waiting for telegraph or something to report brothels are losing income just like the reports on Chinatown and restaurants experiencing downturn of business by 70% or something


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One told me that the shop they work in has been quiet recently, no doubt due to the virus.

[Clownfiesta]

Asking this half jokingly, but are you more likely to catch coronavirus if you daty?

I think the moment any of their bodily fluids touch you, there is a good chance you will catch it

[wilisno]

I think the moment any of their bodily fluids touch you, there is a good chance you will catch it

No fluid is needed, the virus is airborne . You only have to get closer than 1.5 meters to any carrier, you’ll be counted.

[cuteguy]

Yes, we all know that. However, they are learning stuff all the time about the virus so they can't give definite answers

Yes, this virus is new to the scientists. For example, they said 14 days is the incubation period but then there was a case of a man in China who's incubation period was close to a month.

[Niceguy11]

Yes, China and the world was showing signs of slowing even before coronavirus. Our dollar is at the lowest level in around 11 years, car, retail sales are crashing, interest rates are nearly zero, the drought etc etc. China's production is slowing and I doubt that Trump can keep the US stock market on the boil as coronavirus is just about a pandemic now. Imagine how insurance rates will rise after the fires, floods, food price rises etc etc. Lucky I am a positive man. Actually 4 Corners tonight is about the coronavirus I think. Might sit back and watch it with a Corona and a slice of lime.

100% agree with you. Coronavirus is bad and from what I have read in 95% of cases, symptoms include a milf cold. Of course if you have existing medical conditions, then it can cause further problems. I'm just glad it is not as bad as ebola. That shit is really bad. Basically you bleed to death.

[toilet33]

I hope that Italy gets it under control soon. Already bad enough with people fearing Chinese due to the virus. Don't need to add another race to it.

[Clownfiesta]

I hope that Italy gets it under control soon. Already bad enough with people fearing Chinese due to the virus. Don't need to add another race to it.

I think Koreans are starting to face international restrictions now as well

[studsg]

A further comment from that piece of Singapore news stated that the survival rate of the virus is 98% so far, but the survival rate of the marriages after this incident is 2%.I was asking friends in Singapore and this news isn't on any of the official channels. Just circulated via social media. No one can validate the info is even true. So probably should take with a pinch of salt.

[studsg]

I hope that Italy gets it under control soon. Already bad enough with people fearing Chinese due to the virus. Don't need to add another race to it.Well at least for those ppl who are saying that this virus only infects Asians... They can learn some truths about viruses [emoji6]

[sr71]

According to the news, this virus is gaining momentum and becoming more widespread. This is really serious.

[Climax598]

Well at least for those ppl who are saying that this virus only infects Asians... They can learn some truths about viruses [emoji6]
Because some people are stupid. Just like virus in computer have no border infect if not careful.

[toilet33]

The researcher for the testing of coronavirus here in AU has already advised that we should stock up on some non-perishables like pasta, cereal, muesli, etc. Worth getting some (leave some for others) and if we do get through relatively uninfected, the food won't go to waste.

[Clownfiesta]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/02/27/coronavirus-live-updates/

Its slowing down in China, but the rest of the world might get a lot worse now. Japan just shut its schools down til April. Korea and Italy getting A LOT of cases daily, lets hope it doesn't spread much further from there. We're lucky its not spreading much here, and I hate to say this but honestly I think we should probably start looking at restrictions for Koreans/Italians for a few weeks

[freshjive]

Yeah attacking the stock market and the global economy.
Probably have to start working from home soon.

[Riff888]

Best to move super into the safe zone, less volatile but also less returns.

I'm still seeing people walking around Chinatown.

I was there yesterday and it wasn't too bad, not as busy as usual but not empty as well.

There's so many pretty Thai girls working in pubs and VIP lounges.

So many rich young Chinese parking their Lamborghini near the Destiny Karaoke club.

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[AHLUNGOR]

It’s not all doom and gloom though, the News graphics that I have been following just changed its profiles to also including the numbers on recovery and it’s quite promising:

The most important data: Australia 23 cases, 15 recovered , no death !

And New Zealand - Still all cleared ! good on them !!

Vietnam, 16 cases All recovered ! Same with India , 3 out of 3.

Then there are the more seriously affected countries/regions:

Hong Kong: 92 cases, 18 recovered, 2 deaths.

Singapore: 96 cases - 66 recovered

Japan: 207 cases - 32 recovered, 4 deaths - excluding the Diamond Princess.

South Korea: 1,766 cases, 24 recovered, 13 deaths

Just wondering why the Australian government has Not yet imposed a travel ban from Japan and S Korea ??


And finally, how trustworthy is this next set of figures ?

Hubei: 65,596 cases, 23,383 recovered, 2,641 deaths !


For the rest of the world, these are the two real and present danger areas:

Italy: 528 cases, 42 recovered, 14 deaths

Iran: 245 cases, 54 recovered, 26 deaths !!


Lord have mercy on us all.

[cuteguy]

Weren't there many Chinese tourists in Indonesia? This is one country where many Aussies travel to for a holiday. Any statistics for Indonesia?

[Tiankou]

Many of countries do not have enough resource or test kits, or simply not even bother to test. Their philosophy is no fever, no sympton, no problem. Include USA

[Climax598]

Weren't there many Chinese tourists in Indonesia? This is one country where many Aussies travel to for a holiday. Any statistics for Indonesia?
No infection. From what I know. Maybe their water are better. Maybe not tell/reporting but then many Australian still travel to Bali have not infection reported after coming back.

[AHLUNGOR]

Many of countries do not have enough resource or test kits, or simply not even bother to test. Their philosophy is no fever, no sympton, no problem. Include USA

Yeap, just heard the news the latest case in California, the woman was only just tested but has been having symptoms for a while ? The reason why she hasn’t been tested earlier was that she hadn’t recently travelled to China and hadn’t been in close contact with any high risk group .

But the more alarming side show of this news was that the hospital or the city ? Only have about 200 test kits for the virus !! They are Not equipped to deal with any level of out break if ever! Let’s hope they are lucky !

[bigeasy]

My superannuation went down $1k in couple of days..dammnnnn this virus also attacking your super.
Only $1k!!! You either have bugger all super, most of your super in cash or you're the world's luckiest bastard. Mine's down $17k and counting

[birch]

Yes - I doubt very much that claim is correct. There's been lots of cases in the media the virus has been contracted where contact wasn't direct with a known carrier. Think about the Princess Ship in Yokohama - for two weeks all passengers wore masks, the ship was cleaned (reasonably well!) and there was very little mixing of passengers - but still the virus spread to hundreds of passengers. This indicates that the virus stays alive out of the body for quite a while - so on a hand rail, table, elevator button, etc. until the next person touches that surface and then touches their mouth or nose... That's almost certainly how this particular virus is spreading so quickly...

[halfway]

I saw this theory come up today, any truth in this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oLllJ5sSZw&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3yLAbP5Z3OxXLCdFX1QMS-3n9ZjnySdARZu3wH6psZXKb2gNVYfZe7l-A

[Climax598]

I saw this theory come up today, any truth in this ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oLllJ5sSZw&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3yLAbP5Z3OxXLCdFX1QMS-3n9ZjnySdARZu3wH6psZXKb2gNVYfZe7l-A
I would give her $50 for a BBBJ/CIM just to shut her fucking mouth.

[Riff888]

1800 Chinatown looks alive again.70160

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[AHLUNGOR]

1800 Chinatown looks alive again.70160

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Thanks Riff!

It’s always a good sign when no one is wearing a mask !

[Basil22]

I’ve been googling for days trying to figure out why we are all so panicked about Covid-19, as opposed to regular influenza that kills hundreds of thousands of people every single year. I’m not being rhetorical, I genuinely want to know why there has been such an intense reaction. Looks like 85% of infected people only show mild symptoms. SARS had a mortality rate of like 15% compared to 1-2% for Covid-19.

Anyone know why the world
Is going into total meltdown over this?

[AHLUNGOR]

I’ve been googling for days trying to figure out why we are all so panicked about Covid-19, as opposed to regular influenza that kills hundreds of thousands of people every single year. I’m not being rhetorical, I genuinely want to know why there has been such an intense reaction. Looks like 85% of infected people only show mild symptoms. SARS had a mortality rate of like 15% compared to 1-2% for Covid-19.

Anyone know why the world
Is going into total meltdown over this?

The mortality rate in Iran at the moment is 11%?

[toilet33]

No infection. From what I know. Maybe their water are better. Maybe not tell/reporting but then many Australian still travel to Bali have not infection reported after coming back.

Their water is definitely not good. Can't drink from the tap without getting giardia! They are not testing, so they won't find confirmed cases. Their government is currently relying on prayers. Seriously.....

[TwiceAweek]

I’ve been googling for days trying to figure out why we are all so panicked about Covid-19, as opposed to regular influenza that kills hundreds of thousands of people every single year. I’m not being rhetorical, I genuinely want to know why there has been such an intense reaction. Looks like 85% of infected people only show mild symptoms. SARS had a mortality rate of like 15% compared to 1-2% for Covid-19.

Anyone know why the world
Is going into total meltdown over this?Mortality rate isn't the only factor in determining how dangerous a virus is. In fact a lower mortality rate with a higher rate of transmission can be more devastating to the general population than a virus with polar traits, say Ebola. With Ebola the sympoms onset quickly and the host dies too fast for the virus to be transmitted to large numbers.

COVID-19 is scary as at appears to be transmittable in gestation before the host shows symptoms. Most reports suggest 14 days, but some cases have suggested closer to a month. Think about how many people you would be in contact with for a good part of month. How many people would WL/ML be close to in that time!

While 70% of 1000 cases for something nasty like Ebola is bad. 2% potentially 100's million people is fucking horrendous!

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[Apha1401]

life is mundane, we need something to instill fear into soc. It makes us feel human/alive just like watching a horror movie. I feel very sorry for the chinese restaurants and business that have been forced to close out of our stupidity. On the plus, lobsters are cheaper.

[studsg]

The flu does not kill hundreds of thousands of people in Australia each year. It kills 1 or 2 thousand. There are only about 150k deaths in Australia each year in total.

SARS is a scary disease but it doesn't spread as readily as COVID19. MERS is even worse at 45% fatality rate, bird flu is 80% or something. But we are very unlikely to have an outbreak of any of these diseases. We are unlikely to not have a COVID19 outbreak here.

The estimate for Australia in the event of a large COVID19 outbreak (with 50% of the population infected) is about 1.4-1.6 million requiring hospitalisation (I forget how many for ICU, but it was a lot) and over 200 thousand dead. We do not have 1.4-1.6 million hospital beds available and we do not have tens of thousands of ICU beds. I do not believe we will take actions similar to the Chinese to limit the spread. Hopefully we won't have a large outbreak. I don't see how we wont, but we can hope. The real issue is that 15% or so of cases have serious pneumonia. That would put an impossible strain on our health system and people will also die from other things because they can't get treatment.With 50% of the population being infected, how is the number only 1.4 - 1.5 million ? Surely our population is bigger than 3 million ?

Absolutely agree. Australia is not ready for the outbreak. We do not have enough hospital facilities nor medical staff to deal with the outbreak here.

And when the virus does land, they won't implement strong quarantine measures like China. Thus the spread will be "fast & furious" like Italy and Korea.

As of yesterday. Flights from Korea and Japan are still landing without restrictions.

[hornedone]

is condom made in China? Might we run out of stock?

[studsg]

Roughly speaking : Population 26 million, infected 12 million, serious 1.8 million, hospitalised 1.4-1.6 million, ICU several hundred thousand, dead over 200k.

The focus needs to be on slowing the spread once it gets here so these cases are spread out over a longer time frame. Even over a year we will be seriously challenged by those numbers. If it gets into the community just before winter that is not favourable.

Cancelling events like Mardi gras and the f1 have obviously huge costs. As does closing borders, etc. The estimates above are best guess with many unknowns and also involve huge costs. Not easy decisions.Yes agree that once it gets here, and it will, how do we limit the spread.

So far govt agencies here are still not doing near enough. As of yesterday's visit at the airport. There still aren't any temperature scanners deployed anywhere !! So many other countries have already implemented them as basic measure... But not here ??

Custom officers are also not wearing any face masks...

If we are still allowing flights in from countries with large increases of infected on a daily basis, in talking about Japan, Korea and Italy. At least have some level of checks for people who are entering our borders right ?

[studsg]

Similar to New Zealand. Fresh back from Iran beautician in Gold Coast has been tested positive for Covid-19 and has interacted with 40 customers on Thur alone...[emoji3525]

Maybe they shld be applying the same 14 day quarantine procedure to those coming in from those huge outbreak countries like Iran, Japan, Korea and Italy ?

[sukeong]

Similar to New Zealand. Fresh back from Iran beautician in Gold Coast has been tested positive for Covid-19 and has interacted with 40 customers on Thur alone...[emoji3525]

Maybe they shld be applying the same 14 day quarantine procedure to those coming in from those huge outbreak countries like Iran, Japan, Korea and Italy ?


Chill out dude. Take a page out of the orange guy's book. Embrace the virus the recession and all that shit. Everyones gonna die anyway

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-anthony-fauci-trump-admin-stops-discussion-2020-2

[studsg]

Chill out dude. Take a page out of the orange guy's book. Embrace the virus the recession and all that shit. Everyones gonna die anyway

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-anthony-fauci-trump-admin-stops-discussion-2020-2Lol... Yes I shld take a chill pill. That's a good article for those who say only China practice the muzzling of medical professionals from speaking [emoji6]

[AHLUNGOR]

It won’t really hit the Aussie life style until the footy seasons start and all AFL and NRL games will have to be cancelled ?

[Riff888]

This virus doesn't like the hot weather so we still have at least a month before it starts getting cooler.

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[AHLUNGOR]

This virus doesn't like the hot weather so we still have at least a month before it starts getting cooler.

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I hope you are right ?

So the summer Olympics will be safe ?

[mkkid]

I highly doubt Tokyo 2020 will go ahead

[wilisno]

The US victim from Washington has not traveled overseas nor has been in contact with people from China, yet she got the virus and died. Should it be called Washington virus ?

Yes, it is said that the virus can’t survive temperature over 28°.

[F0x]

I’ve been googling for days trying to figure out why we are all so panicked about Covid-19, as opposed to regular influenza that kills hundreds of thousands of people every single year. I’m not being rhetorical, I genuinely want to know why there has been such an intense reaction. Looks like 85% of infected people only show mild symptoms. SARS had a mortality rate of like 15% compared to 1-2% for Covid-19.

Anyone know why the world
Is going into total meltdown over this?

Im with Basil on this one.

Still dont really get the panic, and in reference to ALs Iranian Mortalilty rate, i think i already put something forward around their grade of hospital and medical care opposed to others is likely a factor. Not to say your opinion didnt mean anything mate.

Im quite certain way more than the numbers stated (specifically in AU) have the virus, or, probably more appropriately HAVE had it.

At work we got multiple people with sore throats and a "chesty" cough, known symptons of Coro.

They WFH for a few days or take a bit of time off (usually not more than 4 days) and they are back right as rain.

When asked, all they took was over the counter stuff. Your basic cough medicine cold n flu tablets etc.

Now MAYBE it WAS just your average friendly neighbourhood cold/flu. But if the contagiousness of Coro is to be trusted, its more than likely that that was what it was.

And those multiple people sneezing coughing om public transport? Yeah probably experiencing a touch of the Coro as well.

Look.
The bottom line is this. This does not seem to be the plague 2, return of the plague. Or Black Death 2: the blackening.

If you are scared and concerned thats fine. Do what you need to do, to assure yourself and your loved ones of your safety.

But understand that fear, makes you incredibly easy to control. So easy that you'll buy masks off me for more than the price of a triple diamond at Ginza for a paltry pack of 10. Youll buy because your scared, and it will be childs play for me to convince you those masks are your only chance of survival.

Not that im selling any.

Its basically businesses suffering, xenophobia, and economy issues that are the biggest negative outcomes of Coro.

Imo anyway.

[Riff888]

I hope you are right ?

So the summer Olympics will be safe ?It might be too late for Japan since more people are getting infected.

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[jimbonz]

The olympics is one big giant orgy, things could go south pretty fast...

[cuteguy]

I didn't say everyone at the mardi gras sas from overseas. Where did you get that from?

The Mardi gras attracts quite a few foreign tourists. Good on them. But any large gathering is a perfect environment for spreading this infection. All it takes is one infected carrier at a large gathering, as the public harm auntie in Korea and the cruise ship exemplify. Do you actually to think people don't come from Thailand, Singapore, Korea, China, Iran, or Italy to go to the Sydney Mardi gras?

You have a point there. Were any people that arrived from overseas for the Mardi Gras checked? We don't have anything set up at the airports to monitor whether people are arriving with fevers or other virus symptoms. Someone said the virus prefers cold conditions. We're moving to winter in a few months. Let's see how it will affect us within the next few months.

[mkkid]

better stock up on food supplies

[Idurian]

better stock up on food supplies

I've just been adding a few extra bits and pieces each time but whoa.. all the rice and toilet paper has been purchased in the last couple of days.

[AHLUNGOR]

Latest news for South Korea, the government has arrested the founder of that church group where the infected cases had exploded, him and 12 of the group leaders may be charged with attempted murder as they had hidden the fact that many of their members had visit Wuhan in January, their members were told to have faith and no need to wear mask. Then afterwards had refused to supply their members lists to the authority hence missing out on any opportunity of containing the spread.

[halfway]

The MotoGP race in Qatar has been cancelled as the Government there has enforced 14 day quarantine for anyone coming from Italy.

[dt333]

The most infectious countries all share one thing in common: Winter
Now that it just turned to Spring over there and the weather is warming up, the infection rate should slow down. I think Australia had been insulated from the viral infection because of the Summer temperatures.

[PornHunter]

My good friend whom use to be a regular for Ginza just find out caught the virus after visit one of the Jap girl last week. He was all of sudden keep coughing with light fever after the visit in the next day.

Damn, all of AUS99 brothers!!

Pls watch out & stay away GINZA!!!

[wilisno]

My good friend whom use to be a regular for Ginza just find out caught the virus after visit one of the Jap girl last week. He was all of sudden keep coughing with light fever after the visit in the next day.

Damn, all of AUS99 brothers!!

Pls watch out & stay away GINZA!!!
Unsubstantiated accusations ! If you don’t back off, you’ll be kicked out of here !

If your friend visited Ginza and felt the symptoms after he got home, most probably your friend was a carrier before going to Ginza, because the symptoms don’t show during the incubation period. He got it from somewhere else in the last two weeks and brought the risk to Ginza !

Unless your friend with the health authority confirmed the source, malicious attack to an advertiser is not allowed.

[Sydlong]

There will be an outbreak here, just a matter of when it will be.

Yes more than likely, like the growing number of countries already.

Major events being cancelled worldwide, Geneva Motor Show. F1 Gran Prix is still very uncertain

I reckon they will cancel the Olympics by the end of this month

[AHLUNGOR]

Unsubstantiated accusations ! If you don’t back off, you’ll be kicked out of here !

If your friend visited Ginza and felt the symptoms after he got home, most probably your friend was a carrier before going to Ginza, because the symptoms don’t show during the incubation period. He got it from somewhere else in the last two weeks and brought the risk to Ginza !

Unless your friend with the health authority confirmed the source, malicious attack to an advertiser is not allowed.

Pure speculation? Yes !

But looking at his previous posts, he seemed to be a Ginza/278 fans all along ?

[wilisno]

Pure speculation? Yes !

But looking at his previous posts, he seemed to be a Ginza/278 fans all along ?

It doesn’t matter who he is or who he was, just judge the accusation in a logical way.

[PornHunter]

It doesn’t matter who he is or who he was, just judge the accusation in a logical way.

Brother Willsno, it was really what happened to my friend... he is waiting for further testing to confirm & stay in hospital right now.....he feel so sick and scare...not much he can do now....

[PornHunter]

Pure speculation? Yes !

But looking at his previous posts, he seemed to be a Ginza/278 fans all along ?

Brother Ahlungor, it only happened after he visited a J gal in Ginza for 1 hr, he never travelled to other place....... just normal drive to work & stay at home most of time....

[wilisno]

Brother Willsno, it was really what happened to my friend... he is waiting for further testing to confirm & stay in hospital right now.....he feel so sick and scare...not much he can do now....

Yes, I understand that, just don’t accuse the shop of anything yet, as I said, if he shows symptoms so soon after the visit, most probably he got it from somewhere else, way before he visited the shop !

[PornHunter]

At the end of day, just hope all the brother stay safe & happy punting..... Don't risk yourself and your family for this virus!

[halfway]

Brother Willsno, it was really what happened to my friend... he is waiting for further testing to confirm & stay in hospital right now.....he feel so sick and scare...not much he can do now....

If this is the case, then the Authorities will be wanting track all his movements and test everyone he has been in contact with.

[dundersyd1]

Getting sick the next day doesn't really line up with the average case. If he has it, he had it before seeing her. I think most likely he just has another type of illness

[wilisno]

If this is the case, then the Authorities will be wanting track all his movements and test everyone he has been in contact with.

Yes, even his friend is not confirmed with coronavirus !

[moz]

The most infectious countries all share one thing in common: Winter
.

Other than say Singapore, where it's summer temp all year. Even Hong Kong doesn't really have a winter

[PornHunter]

Yes, I understand that, just don’t accuse the shop of anything yet, as I said, if he shows symptoms so soon after the visit, most probably he got it from somewhere else, way before he visited the shop !

Man, I am not here to accuse anyone or any shop. It is merely the fact that, he started all these symptoms after he visited the shop just over a week. Other than that, he mainly drives himself to work/ home & living by himself.

He is now so bloody regret about it and warn all the AUS99 brothers to notice that!

Since we all know that many mainland Chinese use to hang around there anyway, you never know what shit they bring over there as well......

[moz]

Man, I am not here to accuse anyone or any shop.

That's pretty much exactly what you did.
Could have been his workplace, could have been someone on the street.
And as mentioned above its typically a week after infection before most people start showing symptoms.

So has your friend actually been to the hospital?
Has he been properly tested (result take under 24hrs)?
Has he been isolated?
Has he given the health authorities a list of places he visited in the prior weeks.

If so, let the authorities deal with it

[PornHunter]

That's pretty much exactly what you did.
Could have been his workplace, could have been someone on the street.
And as mentioned above its typically a week after infection before most people start showing symptoms.

So has your friend actually been to the hospital?
Has he been properly tested (result take under 24hrs)?
Has he been isolated?
Has he given the health authorities a list of places he visited in the prior weeks.

If so, let the authorities deal with it

No matter what, I don't gain any benefit to share the news.....

Of coz, he has been isolated & waiting for the result for further testing....

[wilisno]

Man, I am not here to accuse anyone or any shop. It is merely the fact that, he started all these symptoms after he visited the shop just over a week. Other than that, he mainly drives himself to work/ home & living by himself.

He is now so bloody regret about it and warn all the AUS99 brothers to notice that!

Since we all know that many mainland Chinese use to hang around there anyway, you neveer know what shot they bring over therr as well......

Naming a shop and calling for others not to visit that shop is not accusing the shop ? What is ?

I don’t think only you know Ginza is frequented by a lot of Chinese, so is every other shops.

[donkeykong]

Is there any evidence to support this PornHunter?

[AHLUNGOR]

Is there any evidence to support this PornHunter?

If the health department can prove that, Ginza would be all over the news by now ! And it’s not about the shop or any shop or the industry. Every country right now if they have got a new cases which is Not related to a Chinese coming out from Wuhan, they will do everything they can to find the source in order to track down everyone who could have possibly come into contact with the infected. They would have no hesitation in shutting down / or quarantine any restaurant or bar, office or building, school or hospital - it’s their job and the only way!

Ps, so far it is only one member’s post in an anonymous punting forum , so I guess I’ll just wait for the news IMHO!

[AHLUNGOR]

Just to set everyone at ease, according to NSW Health, as of 1 March there were 6 confirmed cases in NSW:

Cases no 5 & 6 were both persons just returned from Iran .

So unless this person in question is confirmed to be case no 7. This is all BS.

Cheers

[yug]

Brother Willsno, it was really what happened to my friend... he is waiting for further testing to confirm & stay in hospital right now.....he feel so sick and scare...not much he can do now....

It was good idea to sound the alarm bells but not a good idea to name the shop (especially when it's not confirmed yet).

Well, what can we do now!..What's done is done!

Please do keep us posted on your friend and whether or not he is confirmed to have the virus.

I have kept away from punting for quite a while now and I will continue to do so until this situation is under control.

Edit: If my friend was confirmed or unconfirmed with Coronavirus, I wouldn't even think about my punting adventures let alone post how good my latest punting conquest was. Surprisingly, brother PornHunter went ahead and just did that. BS meter on this is hitting high.

"Great Hongkie with so many cheeky act...she can even swallow all your cream if she happy with you...he BBBJDT is one of the best in Sydney so far!" - PornHunter on his comment for Olivia at 3:06 PM, 02March, 2020.

Is that how you tell your fellow brothers to stay away?

[dundersyd1]

Another thing to add. It's really linked to Iran currently in AUS and around the world except Asia. All these cases have links to Iran or contact with someone from there. We're moving past the China stage it seems

[moz]

In Australia due to the travel ban.
But I'm sure that Iran case came second hand from China.

Also absolutely don't believe the numbers going down in China as they are reporting. Think they've simply stopped reporting.
Stock markets got spooked today by reports that Chinese factories en masse are being shut down

[halfway]

Australian Govt needs to close up shop at all international airports, shits about to blow up all around the world.

China is looking a like a safe option.......................

[Idurian]

In Australia due to the travel ban.
But I'm sure that Iran case came second hand from China.

Also absolutely don't believe the numbers going down in China as they are reporting. Think they've simply stopped reporting.
Stock markets got spooked today by reports that Chinese factories en masse are being shut down

What's certain is that there is a few products that will become short of supply soon. Maybe time to stock up on condoms? lol

[F0x]

Man, I am not here to accuse anyone or any shop. It is merely the fact that, he started all these symptoms after he visited the shop just over a week. Other than that, he mainly drives himself to work/ home & living by himself.

He is now so bloody regret about it and warn all the AUS99 brothers to notice that!

Since we all know that many mainland Chinese use to hang around there anyway, you neveer know what shot they bring over therr as well......

2 things

1. GINZA was the shop with the passport checks. Doubt they would allow a girl who is infected to keep working. I dont follow the Ginza roster but ill make an assumption this girl has been on for a while

2. Unless your friend has an auto-immune disease or is otherwise about to die anyway, its very unlikely anything more than being miserable with a cough and sore throat will occur to him. He doesnt sound like he is in bad health if he is punting so he should be fine. The only other concern ive just thought of actually, would be if he had asthma, as ive heard one of coronas symptoms is difficulty breathing, if he gets an acute asthma attack and add that on top he could be a goner without assistance around.

Im with the others, its unlikely your friend caught it off the girl.

But the problem is now, your friend probably gave it to her, if it is in fact Corona.

Id tell your friend to tell GINZA asap who you saw so they can confirm and isolate if necessary.

Your friend... ive used that so many times in this post. Is it really your friend or is that a metaphor for you lol

/jks.

[AHLUNGOR]

Hey PornHunter,

Is your friend a 53 yr old health worker ?

If so, then unfortunately he is now no. 9 tested positive in NSW.

As posted before, there were six confirmed cases but the Health Minister just announced this afternoon three more people had also tested positive . No 7 also just came back from Iran, and no. 8 is the sister of no. 6 but she didn’t travel so it is assumed at this stage that she was infected within the local household / family environment.

That no 9 though is a concern as he hadn’t travelled nor in close contact with anyone who had. So now they are investigating very closely all his contacts at work, socially and at home .

[God Member]

Even the shelves in my small local supermarket in whiter-than-white Sutherland Shire had a run on various staples. Rice, pasta and sauce, parmesian cheese. The biggest joke was the shelves were empty of dunny paper. First sign WWIII or the apocalypse is looming - no dunny paper on the shelves. :shout:

[Climax598]

If this health worker is a man then poor guy if people who know him read this forum will thinks this is him. He can be innocent never being to Ginza.

[Climax598]

Interesting Ginza is having a $10 off. Business must be slow.

[PornHunter]

Anyway, I done my best to provide the info...the rest up to you guys....if you just want to take a gameble to your life...just go ahead!

[Bunty4]

Wow smh confirm first human to human virus in Australia.....@pronhunter hope your friend is not 53. And if he is let Ginza know so that the girl can be isolated....hope she did not get it from your friend.

[GoldfishMan]

Now comes the real problem: will a bloke infected with the disease ever come clean to anyone about his punting history?
Don't forget, we're talking about visiting a brothel here.... Some punters would take that secret to their graves, let alone work with the authorities.
To Pornhunter, you're actually in tight spot because IF (deliberately big if there) what you say is true, you actually have a duty as a citizen to alert the authorities to the elevated risk that this situation poses to the general population. Nobody else knows the ins and outs.

[jimbonz]

Now comes the real problem: will a bloke infected with the disease ever come clean to anyone about his punting history?
Don't forget, we're talking about visiting a brothel here.... Some punters would take that secret to their graves, let alone work with the authorities.
To Pornhunter, you're actually in tight spot because IF (deliberately big if there) what you say is true, you actually have a duty as a citizen to alert the authorities to the elevated risk that this situation poses to the general population. Nobody else knows the ins and outs.

I think if that was the case he should come forward, but I can also see how this will be a moral issue. If it as your mate would you do him dirty like that? We are talking about completely wrecking your mate's family situation.