Coronavirus

[rooter]

Given the new mutated strains from UK and South Africa, the Australian government is considering closing borders to all travellers from these countries. If it has to be done then there is no choice. As long as we keep the borders closed then we won't have virus clusters popping up. Western Australia is doing well because their borders are closed while NSW is allowing people to arrive given that Sydney is the gateway to the rest of Australia. The only way the virus will set foot here is from returning travellers or airline crew once there is no local transmission in the community.
Yep. The best thing the Australian Government did was to close the borders to travelers way back in February. That is the main reason why we only have a couple of cases of covid and almost every other country in the world has thousands or even millions of cases. It also helps that we are a remote island with no land borders.
To maintain this you have to keep the borders and the quarantine hotels as tight as a virgin's pussy.
You have to let Australian citizens back in but you can limit numbers and have strict testing and quarantine procedures to stop the virus coming in and spreading in the community. The changes made yesterday to reduce numbers allowed to return and stricter quarantine and testing for travelers and flight crew are all good. Worst case scenario will be every now and then one or two get through but this can be easily traced and stopped and will not be enough to start an epidemic.
As long as the borders are controlled we have no worries in Australia and can get on with our lives just following a few basic rules - you can't catch the virus if it isn't there. And then hopefully vaccination will end the pandemic in the rest of the world and we can relax the borders. But that will be at least another 12 months away.
Australia was probably already the best country in the world, and during the pandemic it definitely is.
I do miss all those horny Japanese backpackers, and plane loads of WLs from Asia arriving every week though :cry:

[cuteguy]

I don't think an Australian citizen should be denied entry back into Australia.

Maybe they should create a bubble whereby all ppl providing services to turned travellers are also in the bubble.

But like fly in fly out workers

Cleaners, healthcare workers, police, adf who are rostered works abd isolates in the bubble for say 3 weeks. Then they have 2 weeks off in the bubble and tested. Then they have how many weeks off outside the bubble before coming back in.

They should get paid well as well.

I know we can't deny Australian citizens who for some had ample time to return but weren't sure about returning or now miss their families and want to return or it's getting worse in the countries where they reside and feel safer to be home. We have another island available. How about Christmas Island? When the virus outbreak occurred, we had many Australian citizens returning from Asia arriving on Christmas Island to do their 14 days quarantine and then returning to their community. At least anyone with the more infectious UK or South African strain won't be able to run away from hotel quarantine and into the community because they're on an island. They can still move freely and not be stuck in a hotel room for the entire 14 days.

[God Member]

The Christmas Island facility only has a 750 accommodation limit.

The great majority of the world's nations have been absolutely incompetent at keeping a lid on the virus. All of Europe for example, Great Britain, the whole of the ****ing US, the middle east, Indonesia, India, even Japan (who I usually don't like to hear a word against :prettiness: :D) have all duffed it.

The consequences are the virus has unnecessarily had millions more opportunities (humans) to mutate into worse forms, which it is now doing.

Therefore other country's problems are our problem.

[drifter]

My neighbour's daughter flew home immediately from London like within a week after she heard about the lockdown. I wonder if everyone came home then and not wait and see to the last moment things would be different.

[Dark_nanon]

I heard that some changed flights to get back asap but kept getting cancelled or delayed then cancelled.

[warwick1]

Going to be a quiet couple of weeks at the shops. That QR code is a killer.
Some ongoing intell would be appreciated

Its only a killer if you have got something to hide..........

[Rahul Jupta]

Its only a killer if you have got something to hide..........
Privacy is always a concern for many punters, incl myself. Just cannot imagine if a shop causes trouble eventually, and ring me to go for test and isolate.

[God Member]

I think I'll attend the next NSW coronovirus press conference and pin this note to the lectern before it starts:

"Gladys, take it as read from the start that you have the collective permission of all assembled here to say whatever it is you deem fit. Therefore at no further point do you need to ask us "Can I say..."

In the extreme likelihood that you keep repeatedly asking us for permission regardless, I have a loud klaxon here and will sound it every time you do. This may act helpfully as a memory aid."

[God Member]

So the Astro Zeneca vaccine only has a 62% efficiency. In other words you take the vaccine and still have a 4 in 10 chance of catching the virus after being exposed. Great odds that.

What turkey signed us up to that one just because we can make it here?

The other two vaccines have a 95% efficiency.

Who else wants Rolls Royce standard instead of Great Wall standard?

[warwick1]

Privacy is always a concern for many punters, incl myself. Just cannot imagine if a shop causes trouble eventually, and ring me to go for test and isolate.

Well dont "punt" then....Like giving up smoking, you will save heaps......see who bites...

[altvmla]

So the Astro Zeneca vaccine only has a 62% efficiency. In other words you take the vaccine and still have a 4 in 10 chance of catching the virus after being exposed. Great odds that.

What turkey signed us up to that one just because we can make it here?

The other two vaccines have a 95% efficiency.

Who else wants Rolls Royce standard instead of Great Wall standard?

The Pfizer-BioNTech one is only produced in a few locations around the world and requires something like -70c while transported, not to mention we're probably relatively at the back of the queue after the UK and US etc had emergency use authorisations considering how bad things are over there.

[Climax598]

The Pfizer-BioNTech one is only produced in a few locations around the world and requires something like -70c while transported, not to mention we're probably relatively at the back of the queue after the UK and US etc had emergency use authorisations considering how bad things are over there.
We punters and the girls should be given the Pfizer vaccine because we are in the high risk group. So we can go back to do our normal business.

[altvmla]

We punters and the girls should be given the Pfizer vaccine because we are in the high risk group. So we can go back to do our normal business.

Someone's gotta stimulate the economy *shrug*

[17012430]

North Shore ain't Northern beaches dickhead. Geography 101

Yes our first geography class in year 7 was about North Shore and Northern Beaches how could he forget?

I like how you get triggered like a little girl over the smallest oversights. Still struggling to find any reviews you've written, and with 2800 posts on this site I'm starting to think you're a lurker who beats his meat to other peoples reviews.

[warwick1]

I said you don't know the difference between the North Shore and the Northern Beaches. I bet you are a cheap arse cunt that women loathe to see. In fact, I know. Yet, you walk away, claiming victory......I despise you cunt. You are everything about punters that I hate.

Well done Mr Ray Ray, you slag me for my posts yet you let loose with this and many others, it is disturbing over such a stupid geographical thing, you are probably a protected species, you have said you were giving up a couple of times just do it , and you threatened me before saying "I know more than you think"...Go for it, and we used to be we chat buddies, bring it on old man.....And yes I can fly a plane, it took a lot of study, what have you ever done.............

[Raybo]

Well done Mr Ray Ray, you slag me for my posts yet you let loose with this and many others, it is disturbing over such a stupid geographical thing, you are probably a protected species, you have said you were giving up a couple of times just do it , and you threatened me before saying "I know more than you think"...Go for it, and we used to be we chat buddies, bring it on old man.....And yes I can fly a plane, it took a lot of study, what have you ever done.............

lol, when I found out how much of a pain in the arse you were with a particular girl, I wanted nothing to do with you. This got confirmed by another girl later on. The 2nd girl was totally freaked out by you and had to block you.

[warwick1]

lol, when I found out how much of a pain in the arse you were with a particular girl, I wanted nothing to do with you. This got confirmed by another girl later on. The 2nd girl was totally freaked out by you and had to block you.

How are you going with babycat and bella who you were pimping out..do you want to keep going because I can.........

[Raybo]

How are you going with babycat and bella who you were pimping out..do you want to keep going because I can.........

just remember, you are the creepy old, time wasting guy that fucked up a perfectly good home visit scenario by getting all paranoid about other punters.......I still crack up at the suggestions I am a pimp too, hilarious!

[warwick1]

just remember, you are the creepy old, time wasting guy that fucked up a perfectly good home visit scenario by getting all paranoid about other punters.......

Just look at the forum about the the stupid old cunts like us who get hooked on hookers, take those stupid fucking headphones off, You sent me a selfie of you at MAC and it was not a good look...I will let it go..see ya..

[warwick1]

just remember, you are the creepy old, time wasting guy that fucked up a perfectly good home visit scenario by getting all paranoid about other punters.......I still crack up at the suggestions I am a pimp too, hilarious!

Well you were calling saying there were slots available for Bella/Fon on a Friday PM me if you are interested, that is pimping old man..........

[Raybo]

Well you were calling saying there were slots available for Bella/Fon on a Friday PM me if you are interested, that is pimping old man..........

You are so full of shit...I had stopped talking to you long before I started seeing Bella. Had your medication today?

[warwick1]

You are so full of shit...I had stopped talking to you long before I started seeing Bella.You posted that on the forum you stupid old prick..I think this has gone far enough...If you want me to continue ,maybe another day...I thought you were a nice guy when we did communicate, we all have our faults but your biggest fault is hypocrisy..........

[Raybo]

You posted that on the forum you stupid old prick..I think this has gone far enough...If you want me to continue ,maybe another day...I thought you were a nice guy when we did communicate, we all have our faults but your biggest fault is hypocrisy..........

I stopped talking to you because I found out you were an arsehole in short. And yeah, Bella asked me to put in a good word for her on the forum. She was really struggling financially during lockdown and needed all the work she could get, hardly pimping. Even that considered she couldnt bear to go and see you anymore.

[warwick1]

I stopped talking to you because I found out you were an arsehole in short. And yeah, Bella asked me to put in a good word for her on the forum. She was really struggling financially during lockdown and needed all the work she could get, hardly pimping. Even that considered she couldnt bear to go and see you anymore.

But I did see her again, and yes you were pimping, you are an old married man walking around with headphones and probably a hoody and listening to crap music , very sad, our text between us at the time showed me you were a hypocrite in what you post towards people who dont follow your ideas about anything...I gotta mow the lawns now, more important......I can see from your selfie why you have to pay for it...

[Raybo]

But I did see her again, and yes you were pimping, you are an old married man walking around with headphones and probably a hoody and listening to crap music , very sad, our text between us at the time showed me you were a hypocrite in what you post towards people who dont follow your ideas about anything...I gotta mow the lawns now, more important......I can see from your selfie why you have to pay for it...

Haha, she told me, it was pretty funny actually. She had no idea you were coming to the shop and had no choice bit to see you, then you couldn't go through with it, told her to stop mid-tug hahaha....mental anguish?

And yeah, something we agree on, definitely no oil painting here! Not sure why you think that would bother me!

[Raybo]

And in Corona virus news, no locally acquired cases in NSW today......YAY!

[warwick1]

Haha, she told me, it was pretty funny actually. She had no idea you were coming to the shop and had no choice bit to see you, then you couldn't go through with it, told her to stop mid-tug hahaha....mental anguish?

And yeah, something we agree on, definitely no oil painting here! Not sure why you think that would bother me!

And she did offer FS at quite a reduced rate, and did contact me after, and Tiffany gave me a discount for my next visit because I left early, have you been to Willoughby Sakura lately, so dont believe all what your children tell you...and by the way not mental anguish, just bored...........

[dotcumdotinyou]

It's like watching Statler & Waldorf from the muppets

[warwick1]

It's like watching Statler & Waldorf from the muppets

But on steroids................

[Raybo]

And she did offer FS at quite a reduced rate, and did contact me after, and Tiffany gave me a discount for my next visit because I left early, have you been to Willoughby Sakura lately, so dont believe all what your children tell you...and by the way not mental anguish, just bored...........

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[warwick1]

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Looks like a VU meter, by the way how are you and babycat, still "tight"...you told of a couple of "high profile" people on the forum she hated, and who were they????

[Riff888]

It's like watching Statler & Waldorf from the muppetsLove those guys

https://youtu.be/14njUwJUg1I

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[Raybo]

Looks like a VU meter, by the way how are you and babycat, still "tight"...you told of a couple of "high profile" people on the forum she hated, and who were they????

Why would I tell you, let alone post it here, even if I knew?
You seem to think that a reputation on here is important. A sad truth for a pathetic old man that can do so much better.

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[warwick1]

Why would I tell you, let alone post it here, even if I knew?
You seem to think that a reputation on here is important. A sad truth for a pathetic old man that can do so much better.

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A reputation means jack shit on this forum but you told me that babycat would avoid this old boob lover.....good night old man.......

[Raybo]

A reputation means jack shit on this forum but you told me that babycat would avoid this old boob lover.....good night old man.......

You are the one that brought up high profile people on the forum like it is a badge of honour.

[warwick1]

You are the one that brought up high profile people on the forum like it is a badge of honour.

What the fuck are you on about you stupid old man....good night

[Raybo]

What the fuck are you on about you stupid old man....good night

I wish I was younger, yes. But old.....nah

[warwick1]

I wish I was younger, yes. But old.....nah

You have got to be 60.........

[Raybo]

You have got to be 60.........

why? this is getting boring now. Stick to Artarmon Sushi bars and massage parlors. Don't tell anyone else and enjoy retirement. I truly wish you all the best, cunt.

[warwick1]

why? this is getting boring now. Stick to Artarmon Sushi bars and massage parlors. Don't tell anyone else and enjoy retirement. I truly wish you all the best, cunt.

And all the best as well cunt, good night..............72372

[17012430]

why? this is getting boring now. Stick to Artarmon Sushi bars and massage parlors. Don't tell anyone else and enjoy retirement. I truly wish you all the best, cunt.

Nobody likes you

[GoldfishMan]

Apparently all OS travellers entering China now need to do anal swab tests for COVID:
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/coronavirus-testing-china-trials-anal-swabbing-for-highrisk-cases/news-story/4b4d71274e89120a77c70e282e419704
This turns me on, I'm such a deviant! When I read this, all I can think of are the hot Chinese WL/ML I've fucked lately going back to China and getting anally penetrated like it happens in a good JAV movie, lol!

[cuteguy]

Apparently all OS travellers entering China now need to do anal swab tests for COVID:
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/coronavirus-testing-china-trials-anal-swabbing-for-highrisk-cases/news-story/4b4d71274e89120a77c70e282e419704
This turns me on, I'm such a deviant! When I read this, all I can think of are the hot Chinese WL/ML I've fucked lately going back to China and getting anally penetrated like it happens in a good JAV movie, lol!

The male nurses would have a field day performing the test on the young girls.:shout:

[Raybo]

Apparently all OS travellers entering China now need to do anal swab tests for COVID:
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/coronavirus-testing-china-trials-anal-swabbing-for-highrisk-cases/news-story/4b4d71274e89120a77c70e282e419704
This turns me on, I'm such a deviant! When I read this, all I can think of are the hot Chinese WL/ML I've fucked lately going back to China and getting anally penetrated like it happens in a good JAV movie, lol!

a little cottonbud up the clacker might tickle a bit.

[Raybo]

Nobody likes you

Oh thanks, prefect, 18, seemed easier to add the numbers up of your name on here than typing it out.

As Warwick1 says, I am a pathetic old man that needs to pay for sex. Yet like you, i hang around this forum, looking for the next big thing.

I can't quite recall the thread, but it sounded like you wanted to have a chat in the Carpark. Do you want to elaborate? Now that covid-19 is not so much of an issue, 2 square metres will be legal soon.

[cuteguy]

Here's the latest news about a side effect from testing positive to coronavirus. COVID could affect sperm quality and reduce fertility in infected men.

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/health/covid-can-leave-men-infertile-causing-inflamed-testicles-and-killing-sperm-experts-warn/news-story/8d82364ec82a8e6948488e64c56f1ca8

[drifter]

WA security guard test positive, possibly UK variant. Shut borders now to WA. LOL

[fud]

WA security guard test positive, possibly UK variant. Shut borders now to WA. LOL

Hard lockdown, an ongoing nightmare, Groundhog Day...

[AHLUNGOR]

Hard lockdown, an ongoing nightmare, Groundhog Day...

Bad luck to Perth, first case in 8/9 months ?

But then again, the WA Premier has been ruthless in closing their borders to all other States, time to taste his own medicines?

[AHLUNGOR]

Hard lockdown, an ongoing nightmare, Groundhog Day...

Yeap, hard lockdown and panic buying.

[surething91]

How is the current market going do you think? I mean in terms of offer/demand?

The privates increased price because of the increasing demand. What about the shops? Is the demand increasing now that the coronavirus situation stabilised a bit?

Also as it has been said the fewer reviews is a bit worrying: no new talents because of the borders closure... I don't think it will get better in 2021...

[rooter]

As far as I know the brothels, escorts, privates, R&Ts are still very busy.
Clearly there are less new girls arriving from overseas, but there are still plenty of working girls in Australia and plenty of horny punters keen to pay for their services.
As with the Australian economy in general, business is still good.
We are living in a cage in Australia, but it is a golden, diamond encrusted cage.

[gthgrt]

Victoria again. COVID-19 confirmed in a hotel quarantine worker linked to the Australian Open.

[surething91]

As far as I know the brothels, escorts, privates, R&Ts are still very busy.
Clearly there are less new girls arriving from overseas, but there are still plenty of working girls in Australia and plenty of horny punters keen to pay for their services.
As with the Australian economy in general, business is still good.
We are living in a cage in Australia, but it is a golden, diamond encrusted cage.

Yeah so I'd say the 'power' is on the offer side atm... I was wondering if the demand was a bit lower with people wfh or scared about the covid but I think you are right: still so many horny punters like me!

[rooter]

Yeah so I'd say the 'power' is on the offer side atm... I was wondering if the demand was a bit lower with people wfh or scared about the covid but I think you are right: still so many horny punters like me!

Sex, gambling, and alcohol are recession and disaster proof industries.
They boom in good times and bad.
If times are good, then people party and celebrate.
If times are bad, then people desperately seek relief, hope, escape etc.
They can't lose.

[surething91]

Sex, gambling, and alcohol are recession and disaster proof industries.
They boom in good times and bad.
If times a good, then people party and celebrate.
If times are bad, then people desperately seek relief, hope, escape etc.
They can't lose.

Very true! It's crazy when you think about it. These are very profitable markets!

[rooter]

I'm so keen to be vaccinated I even dreamt I was last night. It was even by the benchmark 95% Pfizr one too. :D

No way do i won't that filthy zoonotic virus in my system in any amount. It is like fucking an animal.

Let me say at the outset I am NOT and anti-vaxer.
I trust the scientific method.
I am open to holistic, metaphysical spiritual etc, there is so much we don't understand.
But hard science is still our best guide.
So I am OK with being vaccinated, and if I was in Europe or the USA or almost any other country in the world where hundreds or even thousands of people are dying every day I would get vaccinated ASAP.
But here in Australia in our golden, diamond encrusted cage where we have zero, or 1 or 2 new cases a day and zero deaths since last September, I don't see the urgency of getting vaccinated.
I will sit it out for now, make sure there are no side effects, see which is the best vaccine to get etc.
Then eventually I will get vaccinated.

[warwick1]

I put anti vaxers in the same camp as the "flat earth" loonies..........

[gthgrt]

Let me say at the outset I am NOT and anti-vaxer.
I trust the scientific method.
I am open to holistic, metaphysical spiritual etc, there is so much we don't understand.
But hard science is still our best guide.
So I am OK with being vaccinated, and if I was in Europe or the USA or almost any other country in the world where hundreds or even thousands of people are dying every day I would get vaccinated ASAP.
But here in Australia in our golden, diamond encrusted cage where we have zero, or 1 or 2 new cases a day and zero deaths since last September, I don't see the urgency of getting vaccinated.
I will sit it out for now, make sure there are no side effects, see which is the best vaccine to get etc.
Then eventually I will get vaccinated.

I agree with rooter. I'm not against getting vaccinated, but I'm happy to wait for this one.

I don't think were going to have any say in which one we get. You will get whatever is being rolled out when it's your turn.

[GoldfishMan]

I'm so keen to be vaccinated I even dreamt I was last night. It was even by the benchmark 95% Pfizr one too. :D

No way do i won't that filthy zoonotic virus in my system in any amount. It is like fucking an animal.
I thought the whole science of vaccination IS to inject that "filthy zoonotic virus" or something similar to it (dead, weakened or artificially created analog) into your system. That's how they stimulate your immune system to create antibodies that will recognise the real thing when it comes and be able to fight it.
Just wanted you to know this so you won't be shocked when you find this out later and swing completely in the opposite direction (ie. Become an anti-vaxxer).

[GoldfishMan]

Let me say at the outset I am NOT and anti-vaxer.
I trust the scientific method.
I am open to holistic, metaphysical spiritual etc, there is so much we don't understand.
But hard science is still our best guide.
So I am OK with being vaccinated, and if I was in Europe or the USA or almost any other country in the world where hundreds or even thousands of people are dying every day I would get vaccinated ASAP.
But here in Australia in our golden, diamond encrusted cage where we have zero, or 1 or 2 new cases a day and zero deaths since last September, I don't see the urgency of getting vaccinated.
I will sit it out for now, make sure there are no side effects, see which is the best vaccine to get etc.
Then eventually I will get vaccinated.
Sorry bro, hate to burst your bubble. The term "anti-vaxxer" does not only mean people who outright refuse to vaccinate, it also includes people who deliberately delay vaccination even when it is readily available. That means if you intend to "wait it out" as you said, that makes you an anti-vaxxer.
I guess the term anti-vaxxer is used broadly to mean anybody who deliberately leaves themselves "open" as an entry-point through which a contagion can attack the population.

It really is no surprise to see so many people not having faith in the new vaccines. We have rules and standards through which vaccines are normally created. These are the things that give us confidence that whatever is created is safe for use. By taking shortcuts on those rules and standards, they've effectively forfeited the confidence that could've been gained had they taken the long road.

If you really need to blame "someone" for the situation we're in now, with so many people not confident in the vaccine, look no further than the circus that is the news media. Had they not been such big mouths and continuously reminded us about how long it normally takes to make a proper vaccine, the majority of everyone would be only happy to be vaccinated. Now? Forget about it, the cat is already out of the bag.

[rooter]

Our golden, diamond encrusted cage :shout:

Life inside the golden diamond encrusted cage is OK bro.
Life is good here in The Lucky Country.
There is no way you want to open the gate and fly out or let anyone else in.
Maybe in around 12 months time we can start to think about it.
I feel so lucky and privileged to have been born here, and anyone else who was born here or immigrated here should feel the same.

[tpol]

Hope the vaccines don't cause impotence. Or will pfizer slip a little blue stuff in it and get guys hooked

[Scanlan]

Vaccine is a hoax. Just like they poison the food supply with high qualities of MSG , sugar and carinogenic additives.
They also do it through prescription medication's and vaccine's.
The Dr relish doping us with antidepressant's and other useless medications you don't need.
Greedy, Sick Bastard's.

[warwick1]

Vaccine is a hoax. Just like they poison the food supply with high qualities of MSG , sugar and carinogenic additives.
They also do it through prescription medication's and vaccine's.
The Dr relish doping us with antidepressant's and other useless medications you don't need.
Greedy, Sick Bastard's.

You are an idiot and you can't spell....."carcinogenic"

[Sharphorse]

Vaccine is a hoax. Just like they poison the food supply with high qualities of MSG , sugar and carinogenic additives.
They also do it through prescription medication's and vaccine's.
The Dr relish doping us with antidepressant's and other useless medications you don't need.
Greedy, Sick Bastard's.

Just drink celery juice. It cures everything. Pete Evans told me

[smn5746]

[QUOTE=aussiegaigin;1918255]Should be OK if they are established girls here. New arrivals might be a concern.[/QUOTE.

[sysad85]

New arrivals? I thought the borders are closed. No?

[rooter]

New arrivals? I thought the borders are closed. No?

No new arrivals bro.
Borders still closed until next year.

[halfway]

No new arrivals bro.
Borders still closed until next year.

I thought they are letting in Students now ?

There are more people traveling to and fro than we are led to believe.

[AHLUNGOR]

I thought they are letting in Students now ?

There are more people traveling to and fro than we are led to believe.

Do you know how much are the air fares these days to come into Australia?

[adahar]

Not sure if the question is rhetorical but here goes.

I can find China Southern round trip from Syd to GZ and return at $13,380 on one day in June. GZ to Syd one way from $3500 (but apparently they won't let you in unless you've got a good reason).

The thing they don't tell you is the cost of doing it and the quarantine ain't free either.

[james912]

nah, they arent letting international students in.

[cuteguy]

nah, they arent letting international students in.

The universities would love to see them return but with cases of covid19 on the rise in some parts of Asia, it's too risky to open the borders at this stage. Of course, it means less variety of girls for punters to try but nothing can be done.

[quackm2002]

We had to have one in our midst. Is the virus a hoax too and is the world secretly controlled by lizard people?


Vaccine is a hoax. Just like they poison the food supply with high qualities of MSG , sugar and carinogenic additives.
They also do it through prescription medication's and vaccine's.
The Dr relish doping us with antidepressant's and other useless medications you don't need.
Greedy, Sick Bastard's.

[sysad85]

The universities would love to see them return but with cases of covid19 on the rise in some parts of Asia, it's too risky to open the borders at this stage. Of course, it means less variety of girls for punters to try but nothing can be done.Does it also affect prices? Like less offer while the demand is same, can push the prices up?

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[GoldfishMan]

Does it also affect prices? Like less offer while the demand is same, can push the prices up?

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It is already doing that. Some shops have put prices up. Even popular privates are jacking up their price.
This is a weird situation the world is going through. It's almost like a de-globalization. The opposite of what has been going on that was "powered" by international travel, is now happening.
Let's see how it turns out.

[AHLUNGOR]

Not sure if the question is rhetorical but here goes.

I can find China Southern round trip from Syd to GZ and return at $13,380 on one day in June. GZ to Syd one way from $3500 (but apparently they won't let you in unless you've got a good reason).

The thing they don't tell you is the cost of doing it and the quarantine ain't free either.

Thanks for that , was it AUD or Yuan ?

[adahar]

Thanks for that , was it AUD or Yuan ?

AUD. Not sure if that's a firm price, it might change day to day, who knows.

CS is now docking my points because I haven't been able to use them. It's going to be a close run thing with Cathay and Thai as well if borders stay closed until mid 2022.

[Scanlan]

We live in a world where a population commits national and civilization kamikaze because there terrified of virus snivelling like brainwashed coward's .
We live in a world where the few people who raise question's about the bigger picture , our castastrophic collapse & political
demise's are all labelled all sort of names like idiot by the self annointed luminaries hiding in the basement petrified of COVID 19.

[local]

Just drink celery juice. It cures everything. Pete Evans told me

Best thing about Coronavirus is that I haven't heard anything about pete for at least 6 months !!

[AHLUNGOR]

AUD. Not sure if that's a firm price, it might change day to day, who knows.

CS is now docking my points because I haven't been able to use them. It's going to be a close run thing with Cathay and Thai as well if borders stay closed until mid 2022.

Yeah, those airfare are scary. A few of my regulars have told me that their family members had returned home to China last year and preferred to stay there , mainly due to the very expensive airfares to return and then the hotel quarantine!

[dannyboy]

People definitely are arriving daily, it's not just returning Australian citizens..

[cuteguy]

People definitely are arriving daily, it's not just returning Australian citizens..

The cricketers who fled to Maldives from India were able to return to Australia without any major issues while many ordinary Aussies are still stranded overseas. Just shows priority is given to sports stars and celebrities over ordinary citizens.

[Vader]

The cricketers who fled to Maldives from India were able to return to Australia without any major issues while many ordinary Aussies are still stranded overseas. Just shows priority is given to sports stars and celebrities over ordinary citizens.

The Indian Cricket Board paid for their flights and quarantine. They weren't counted in the weekly 3000

[adahar]

The cricketers who fled to Maldives from India were able to return to Australia without any major issues while many ordinary Aussies are still stranded overseas. Just shows priority is given to sports stars and celebrities over ordinary citizens.

They had all the expenses paid for by the Indian board of the cricket council.

Pity they can't contribute to keep the kids from having to scavenge on rubbish tips, but there you are. It's a cruel world.

[rooter]

They had all the expenses paid for by the Indian board of the cricket council.

Pity they can't contribute to keep the kids from having to scavenge on rubbish tips, but there you are. It's a cruel world.

80% to 90% of the world is a shit hole - poverty, civil war, conflict, oppressive regimes, dictatorships, disease, no human rights or freedom, illiteracy, no opportunity, one party states, etc or some or all of the above.
That's just the way the world is.
It was like this before covid and it will be like this after covid.
That's why so many desperate people try to make it to the west using whatever means they can - legal or illegal.
And the rest just stay in the shit hole they were born in and accept their miserable fate.

[boater]

For those 50+ seems there are plenty of Vaccination slots available to the Homebush vaccine hub over the next week for AZ
You can make an appointment here:
https://vaccination.slhd.nsw.gov.au/vc/SydneyOlympicPark/1

[One23Four]

Unfortunately most of the brothers are under 50 and not eligible for AstraZenaca with a minimal risk of blood clotting side effects. Pfizer/BioNTech is now in short supply throughout the World. In hindsight, the Federal Government should have put their bets on Pfizer/BioNTech rather than AstraZenaca.

[smn5746]

Unfortunately most of the brothers are under 50 and not eligible for AstraZenaca with a minimal risk of blood clotting side effects. Pfizer/BioNTech is now in short supply throughout the World. In hindsight, the Federal Government should have put their bets on Pfizer/BioNTech rather than AstraZenaca.

U can have AstraZenaca if u under 50 just have to sign a disclaimer

[imaragingbull]

Giving this more thought... Government should offer more incentives for those who are vaccinated. This drives the adoption and having a population that is immune. Despite all the failures of the US in 2020, this is the one area of success.

Free AFL/NRL/cricket tickets if you get a shot? Free Opal card if you get a shot? Free lottery entires if you get a shot? Free coffee? Then further expanding what you can do if vaccinated (eventually) - travel, etc.

Food for thought. When incentivised to get their act together, that will prompt the adoption.

[One23Four]

AstraZenaca does pose a greater risk of blood clotting for younger guys aged between 20 to 40 based on international experience and statistics so far particularly female. Also its protection is much smaller than Pfizer/BioNTech particularly to the notorious Indian strain and British strain. Even UK now recommends British residents under 40 to take Pfizer/BioNTech.

In Australia, even with limiting AstraZenaca to people aged 50 and above, the statistics so far is about 1 in 60,000 chance of getting the blood clot problem which is not a minor side effect.

Whether it is a wise choice to sign a waiver for those below 50 in order to get a COVID 19 shot earlier is of course a risk and benefits consideration for the particular person in question.

[jethro751]

I had the first Astrazenica shot on the 12th of April due to my age at mid 60's and I have asthma and mild emphysema from working in polluted factories in my younger days so I was granted a priority by my doctor.
I have learnt to manage each condition for the most part but the worst is the suffocating feeling of shortness of breath whenever I get any serious flu, so I believe I would not survive Covid19.
I was a bit concerned about the blood clotting because I had a minor stroke from clotting when I was 38 that put me in hospital for 7 days while they did tests and inserted a stent to clear the clot.
After receiving the first dose I felt a little strange for 30 minutes and then fine, but then had flu like symptoms for three days but without the runny nose just all the rest like feeling lethargic and aches and pains all over.
Then after that I had fingers of pain going from my neck up to the top of my head which then presented as a sore spot on the top right side of my head like a punch and it was sore to the touch.
This lasted a couple of days then subsided and was never unbearable and since then have had no problems.
I was concerned because of my previous stint in hospital as clots can present as I described with local pain at the site.
But I was more concerned that this virus would definitely kill me and with our close contact with the girls it places us at a high risk profile.
Also I did not want to be the one to either catch it or spread it to others so now I feel much better that I am not only protected with 70 percent effectiveness after the first jab but cannot spread it to our lovely ladies.
I always felt all the working girls should have been shortlisted to get protected but as usual the government does not have any serious care or thoughts about these workers as needing to be protected as a priority.
So in summary, I am a high risk candidate for an adverse reaction but I am now fine so get some peace of mind and get vaccinated as it will open up opportunities later and protect you from the inevitable outbreak's long into the future.

[GoldfishMan]

I had the first Astrazenica shot on the 12th of April due to my age at mid 60's and I have asthma and mild emphysema from working in polluted factories in my younger days so I was granted a priority by my doctor.
I have learnt to manage each condition for the most part but the worst is the suffocating feeling of shortness of breath whenever I get any serious flu, so I believe I would not survive Covid19.
I was a bit concerned about the blood clotting because I had a minor stroke from clotting when I was 38 that put me in hospital for 7 days while they did tests and inserted a stent to clear the clot.
After receiving the first dose I felt a little strange for 30 minutes and then fine, but then had flu like symptoms for three days but without the runny nose just all the rest like feeling lethargic and aches and pains all over.
Then after that I had fingers of pain going from my neck up to the top of my head which then presented as a sore spot on the top right side of my head like a punch and it was sore to the touch.
This lasted a couple of days then subsided and was never unbearable and since then have had no problems.
I was concerned because of my previous stint in hospital as clots can present as I described with local pain at the site.
But I was more concerned that this virus would definitely kill me and with our close contact with the girls it places us at a high risk profile.
Also I did not want to be the one to either catch it or spread it to others so now I feel much better that I am not only protected with 70 percent effectiveness after the first jab but cannot spread it to our lovely ladies.
I always felt all the working girls should have been shortlisted to get protected but as usual the government does not have any serious care or thoughts about these workers as needing to be protected as a priority.
So in summary, I am a high risk candidate for an adverse reaction but I am now fine so get some peace of mind and get vaccinated as it will open up opportunities later and protect you from the inevitable outbreak's long into the future.
Thank you very much for sharing your experience with Covishield (AZ vaccine brand name) and wishing you best of luck with the second shot.

Regarding the girls and vaccination,
I posed the question to a number of Chinese girls about how they would likely be required to get vaccinated due to the nature of their work. All of them gave me a similar answer, that they do not trust any of the Western made vaccines due to the side-effects. Some of them have said that they'd rather put all their efforts into trying to go back to China so they can get the Chinese made vaccine instead (Sinovac).

It has been theorised that the Western made vaccines have more side-effects due to the chemical preservatives that are used on the vaccines, whereas the Chinese one and I think even the Russian one (Sputnik V) only keep the vaccines in saline solution, without preservatives. Comirnaty (Pfizer vaccine) used to be 100% preservative free, requiring storage and subzero temp, but recently this has changed so that you could store them at room temperature. Not sure if this means Pfizer are now also adding preservatives in the vaccines, but it does make you wonder.

[adahar]

It would be an interesting exercise to compare the reaction/results in populations that had Sinovac and Sputnik to those that had AZ and Pfizer. But alas that sort of information is unlikely to be compared let alone released in to the public domain.

So much was known about the effects of a pandemic yet a vast number of "experts" keep plying the public with ignorance and misinformation, mainly driven by political circumstance.

If anyone can be interested and stoic enough here's a link to a document (published in September 2019 by the John Hopkins Centre for Health Security) that predicts the effects and how governments could be prepared for such an event. Be careful, it might change your outlook on the response by those we elect.

https://apps.who.int/gpmb/assets/thematic_papers/tr-6.pdf

[AHLUNGOR]

Two new locally transmitted cases now, lots of hot spot sites in the Eastern suburbs and Bondi Junction. Let’s be very careful out there guys, and don’t let the Victorians laughing at us Sydneysiders!

And hopefully these two house mates are Not punters !!

[Lazor Zap]

Two new locally transmitted cases now, lots of hot spot sites in the Eastern suburbs and Bondi Junction. Let’s be very careful out there guys, and don’t let the Victorians laughing at us Sydneysiders!

And hopefully these two house mates are Not punters !!

I got my 2nd Pfizer shot today no side effects from the 1st jab 3 weeks ago. Hopefully sometime next year the borders will be open again. I've already missed 3 Thailand trips since this pandemic started

[One23Four]

Definitely Thailand will be opened to you after your Pfizer shots. The point is whether Australia will let you go but sometime next year, Australia will open its international borders to many countries though not everyone.

People who have the two full shots say that most of the side effects happen on the second shot though still relatively minor like fatigue and minor fever.

[adahar]

The borders are "closed" apparently and yet there's been over 350 international flights per week (4287 in Jan, Feb and March)! Hazzard gave out the info this morning there's been 37,000 flight crew quarantined in the last six months.

Not sure who all the passengers were, unless the planes are empty, which I doubt. So someone is getting in or out. Maybe it's easier than you think to get an exemption.

[Lazor Zap]

The borders are "closed" apparently and yet there's been over 350 international flights per week (4287 in Jan, Feb and March)! Hazzard gave out the info this morning there's been 37,000 flight crew quarantined in the last six months.

Not sure who all the passengers were, unless the planes are empty, which I doubt. So someone is getting in or out. Maybe it's easier than you think to get an exemption.
There are exemptions but most of the bars are shut there are obviously some open but most people will wait until next year to go back

[moz]

Lots of empty freight flight.

Continuing stream of Aussies coming home (often at only 30 per flight due to the restrictions).
And also a stream of foreigners leaving, and some exceptions.

[local]

Lots of empty freight flight.

Continuing stream of Aussies coming home (often at only 30 per flight due to the restrictions).
And also a stream of foreigners leaving, and some exceptions.

Actually, coming out of china at the moment is increasing freight volume by air, maybe not direct, but overall with their wharf issues, definitely increasing.

Many passenger planes arriving in Australia, with few (if any) passengers, but their holds are full of freight.

[dannyboy]

I got my 2nd Pfizer shot today no side effects from the 1st jab 3 weeks ago. Hopefully sometime next year the borders will be open again. I've already missed 3 Thailand trips since this pandemic started

Analyst's at the International Air Transport Association (IATA) have stated that air traffic
will take several years to normalise and pre covid levels won't return until 2024.. When I read that I knew straight away it would be years away before international travel will resume again. Even scomo has stated it will be years away, he knows borders aren't opening for a long time, look at the UK now, nearly 70% vaccinated and they had 10k cases in a day, now its the delta varient.. I'd forget about international travel and just punt local..

[BAM]

With all the alerts in Sydney CBD and Surrey Hills areas what are the odds we'll be seeing brothels go to outcall only again soon?

[cuteguy]

With all the alerts in Sydney CBD and Surrey Hills areas what are the odds we'll be seeing brothels go to outcall only again soon?

This one is spreading and we have to wear masks indoors. The virus will never leave us and life will never return to normal.

[Starved]

This one is spreading and we have to wear masks indoors. The virus will never leave us and life will never return to normal.

If we get some herd immunity we will learn to live with it like the flu and other diseases.

[avnyyy]

Things are not looking too good again... hopefully it settles soon


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[One23Four]

Exposure sites keep on rising and testing rates stay at around 25,000. If no more unknown source cases in the next few days and testing rates increased to 30,000 or more then I think the outbreak in Bondi Junction Westfield is contained and settled. Otherwise more restrictions will be forthcoming.

[boater]

Exposure sites keep on rising and testing rates stay at around 25,000. If no more unknown source cases in the next few days and testing rates increased to 30,000 or more then I think the outbreak in Bondi Junction Westfield is contained and settled. Otherwise more restrictions will be forthcoming.

The big risk is we miss some one, like they did in Vic with the infection from SA, and it grows undetected for a few weeks before being caught again.
So even if the cases go to zero we won't know we are in the clear for several weeks or a month.

Fun times.

[GoldfishMan]

Exposure sites keep on rising and testing rates stay at around 25,000. If no more unknown source cases in the next few days and testing rates increased to 30,000 or more then I think the outbreak in Bondi Junction Westfield is contained and settled. Otherwise more restrictions will be forthcoming.
I think it would be a mistake to think that we can deal with this Delta variant in the same way we dealt with the other variants. Just look at how it spread in that Bondi Junction case. One guy simply walked past the same "air" as the infected guy and he got it. And the lady who was sitting outside the cafe getting it from the guy who was inside.
That tells us the "rules of the game" have changed because of Delta. 1.5m apart, stay in same room for more than 1 hour, etc... Do they still apply to this Delta variant? These "rules" were also used by the health "experts" to come up with the exposure sites list and who are considered close contacts and not. If those rules have changed, surely they would have to change the way they come up with all these collateral stuff?
The biggest danger for us is people who have the virus and not coming out to get tested. The fear of losing income for weeks must be a huge incentive to just try to fight the virus on their own!
I mean, is it a coincidence that a majority of the recent positive cases we've had are from the rich Eastern suburbs people? These are the ones that can afford to go without an income for extended periods of time. You try asking a Uber driver out west, who's probably living hand to mouth as it is, to get tested and possibly have to go into quarantine for weeks and no income... Forget about it!

[rooter]

21 cases in a city of 6 million people is nothing to panic about.
Just need to keep the international borders closed and improve quarantine and vaccination procedures and we are OK here until the world reaches 80% vaccination and/or herd immunity kicks in.

[One23Four]

The Delta Variant originated in India is definitely very terrible and much more highly contagious than the UK Variant. Nevertheless, an Epidemiologist has opined that the spread will also depend on the infected person who spread it. The flight crews driver is himself also a super-spreader and so spreading it easily via his airspace ie high airborne efficiency in Westfield but others infected by him don’t seem to have spread the same Delta Variant so efficiently. The same seems to be holding true in the Melbourne outbreak for this Delta Variant. This maybe the only comfort we can have now in monitoring the current outbreak in Sydney.

[james912]

well, there is mandatory mask-wearing now in indoor venues.

Quoted:
Sydney's mask-wearing restrictions will remain in force for an additional week, Ms Berejiklian has announced.
The restrictions were initially set to lift at 12.01am on Thursday.
The requirement is also being extended to all of Greater Sydney, meaning everybody in the metropolitan area will have to wear masks while at an indoor venue, including hospitality venues, grocery stores, or any indoor events.
A person can only take their mask off at an indoor venue if they are eating or drinking.

[Climax598]

No punting massage or FS for me now. My regular will be poorer for the next weeks.

[One23Four]

Very very sad !!!

[adahar]

It was also announced that QR codes will be mandatory at ALL retail outlets soon. It's highly likely this will never be repealed.

Say goodbye to pre-covid normality, it's been nice knowing you.

[james912]

No punting massage or FS for me now. My regular will be poorer for the next weeks.

well, can't you just go for it? its not like its closed or restricted right? hahaha

[Climax598]

well, can't you just go for it? its not like its closed or restricted right? hahaha
Do you want to get Delta. Hahaha

[james912]

Do you want to get Delta. Hahaha

True, its a valid concern. hahaha. but personally, i think punting is still safer than heading off to do groceries and etc.

[Ziggurat]

we are OK here until the world reaches 80% vaccination and/or herd immunity kicks in.

Have you been vaccinated? If not, you are part of the problem, not part of the solution you espouse.

Not answering this question can only be viewed as a "no." :question:

[Riff888]

Had my second shot of the Pfizer vaccine.

Had a punt the next night.

Still not going to leave home without a mask though.

Hope everyone keeps safe, girls, punters and staff.

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[Assandlegs]

https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/rules/face-mask-rules

Facemasks now compulsory for most indoor venues... even massage parlours gets a mention

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[Climax598]

But FS shop is not on the list for face mask how surprising. I m sure it be add in later after Premier and CHO have read this forum like last year that sex shops and night clubs were excluded

[Lazor Zap]

well, there is mandatory mask-wearing now in indoor venues.

Quoted:
Sydney's mask-wearing restrictions will remain in force for an additional week, Ms Berejiklian has announced.
The restrictions were initially set to lift at 12.01am on Thursday.
The requirement is also being extended to all of Greater Sydney, meaning everybody in the metropolitan area will have to wear masks while at an indoor venue, including hospitality venues, grocery stores, or any indoor events.
A person can only take their mask off at an indoor venue if they are eating or drinking.
I was at Castle Towers shopping centre Castle Hill today hardly anyone wearing masks even in post office not one person was wearing a mask, I've had 2 shots of Pfizer and I was wearing a mask. I was speaking to a mate from Melbourne he said himself and all his friends with will never get the Vaccine he said he knows doctors you can pay money to and they will sign documents saying they were vaccinated. I think this will be commonplace for Aniti Vaxxers to get around the Vaccine unfortunately if they want to travel overseas

[dannyboy]

I was at Castle Towers shopping centre Castle Hill today hardly anyone wearing masks even in post office not one person was wearing a mask, I've had 2 shots of Pfizer and I was wearing a mask. I was speaking to a mate from Melbourne he said himself and all his friends with will never get the Vaccine he said he knows doctors you can pay money to and they will sign documents saying they were vaccinated. I think this will be commonplace for Aniti Vaxxers to get around the Vaccine unfortunately if they want to travel overseas

If you have had 2 doses of the vaccine you're protected aren't you?? Why would you be concerned about mask less people..

[Riff888]

I was at Castle Towers shopping centre Castle Hill today hardly anyone wearing masks even in post office not one person was wearing a mask, I've had 2 shots of Pfizer and I was wearing a mask. I was speaking to a mate from Melbourne he said himself and all his friends with will never get the Vaccine he said he knows doctors you can pay money to and they will sign documents saying they were vaccinated. I think this will be commonplace for Aniti Vaxxers to get around the Vaccine unfortunately if they want to travel overseasWhere'd you hear that rubbish.

These vaccines are recorded on your Health Record, you can verify via MyGov.

This is something that may be on your passport.

None of this fake document signing crap.

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[wilisno]

If you have had 2 doses of the vaccine you're protected aren't you?? Why would you be concerned about mask less people..

It is said that the vaccine will protect you in a way even if you contracted the virus, there will be no symptoms, it won’t harm you. But as a carrier, you still can pass it on to others….

So mask wearing is still recommended.

[BAM]

It was also announced that QR codes will be mandatory at ALL retail outlets soon. It's highly likely this will never be repealed.

Say goodbye to pre-covid normality, it's been nice knowing you.
I don't see myself scanning the QR code at the brothels though.

[suka02]

I blame those people who were at overseas that didn’t returned back earlier when the pandemic were in lockdown in this country. Especially with people coming back from UK and India. I cannot believe why they were still there otherwise just stay there for good Don’t comeback until it’s over.

[AHLUNGOR]

I blame those people who were at overseas that didn’t returned back earlier when the pandemic were in lockdown in this country. Especially with people coming back from UK and India. I cannot believe why they were still there otherwise just stay there for good Don’t comeback until it’s over.

Not their choices to remain in those countries. Flights coming back home were very hard to come by and very expensive. They all need help and it’s the government responsibility to bring our people home quickly and safely, no ?

[GoldfishMan]

Have to agree, the level of mask-wearing in NSW is appalling. Went out for a walk in the CBD yesterday, I reckon less than 50% of the people in shopping centres were wearing masks. It's a slight improvement over Sunday... I counted consistently less than 2 out of 10 people were wearing masks. They were just going about their business as if there's no pandemic going on.

I think the biggest risk with NSW right now is that we have been so comfortable with what we've had so far, all of us have become complacent right when this Delta variant comes. This includes the NSW government.

I mean, they go on and on about how we don't need a lockdown because all the infections detected so far are from close contacts of the known infections. Well, what did they expect to find when their own health alerts single out areas where the known infections have been to and they tell only those areas to go and get tested? It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy!

[suka02]

Not their choices to remain in those countries. Flights coming back home were very hard to come by and very expensive. They all need help and it’s the government responsibility to bring our people home quickly and safely, no ?

This were from early last year 2020. Didn’t they bought return ticket? so plenty of time to get home since last year lockdown, they knew it is highly restricted lockdown (no open int. boders) before the deadline coming back. If they got no money how they be able to travel and spend? At least they could borrow and work for it when they get home. plenty of vacancies right now, as we are shortages of staff in this country. Some are just lazy.

[adahar]

This were from early last year 2020. Didn’t they bought return ticket? so plenty of time to get home since last year lockdown, they knew it is highly restricted lockdown (no open int. boders) before the deadline coming back. If they got no money how they be able to travel and spend? At least they could borrow and work for it when they get home. plenty of vacancies right now, as we are shortages of staff in this country. Some are just lazy.

Back in April 2020 a person I know was in the UK (not a student), traveling and working. When the lock down came and our Govt advised returning asap he tried to get a flight out. Lots of calls to the Govt had no effect and it took almost a month to get a flight and in the end cost $5000. This was a single guy with no family, no permanent work commitments, no health issues and willing to put up with anything to get back home.

Many people had to book several flights to have a chance of getting just one but this required substantial funds with the risk of incurring heavy cancellation fees (airlines were yet to amend their ticket conditions). If you had enough cash then you stood a chance but this created a shortage of seats for those that couldn't afford to do so which resulted in a chaotic booking system. Remember the rest of the world was trying to do the same. Prior to Covid there were 80,000 passenger movements per DAY going through Heathrow. Multiply that by a factor and imagine the logistical problems that resulted.

Unless you've been in that position it's rash to generalise, AH is correct, the Govt was sadly lacking in this area and is still dragging it's feet in all areas.

[suka02]

Back in April 2020 a person I know was in the UK (not a student), traveling and working. When the lock down came and our Govt advised returning asap he tried to get a flight out. Lots of calls to the Govt had no effect and it took almost a month to get a flight and in the end cost $5000. This was a single guy with no family, no permanent work commitments, no health issues and willing to put up with anything to get back home.

Many people had to book several flights to have a chance of getting just one but this required substantial funds with the risk of incurring heavy cancellation fees (airlines were yet to amend their ticket conditions). If you had enough cash then you stood a chance but this created a shortage of seats for those that couldn't afford to do so which resulted in a chaotic booking system. Remember the rest of the world was trying to do the same. Prior to Covid there were 80,000 passenger movements per DAY going through Heathrow. Multiply that by a factor and imagine the logistical problems that resulted.

Unless you've been in that position it's rash to generalise, AH is correct, the Govt was sadly lacking in this area and is still dragging it's feet in all areas.

I Agree. always plan for unexpected situation. People should have emergency fund if something will go bad especially if they are travelling overseas. Like i said work for it to earn. i’m sure it was noticed call early feb/march it gotten bad but people are still ignorant not coming back asap. We are lucky to be in Australia where jobs are available everywhere, it’s just people are being lazy (the healthy ones). They said people from overseas are stealing the aussies job, jobs are a/v everywhere but it’s them who don’t want to work for their own future saving. Hence now they have very little saving or meet end to end.

[adahar]

I don't see myself scanning the QR code at the brothels though.

I heard an interesting question posed by a journalist at a press conference held in Vic. The question was aimed at Brett Sutton (Vic CMO) within the context of limiting gathering numbers.

"What do you say about 100 people a day visiting brothels but only two people can visit a home" (as near as I can remember).

His expression and demeanor never changed and simply replied that there's a lot more families that visit than go to those limited number of establishments. I took the totality of this reply to indicate they are fully aware of the risk but not willing to expand in the public arena about our little "hobby". You might notice that no establishment of this type has been listed as an exposure site (apart from the massage shop on the northern beaches which by all accounts was legit). Given the number of close and casual contacts generated it seems statistically unlikely that there wouldn't be someone with a dark secret.

It seems that it serves no public interest by highlighting this activity so maybe if a venue was caught up in this it would unlikely to be discussed openly even though brothels are legal in Vic. (but must be licensed).

[Awqjoq]

Just as I'm getting the urge to go for a RnT again the covid restrictions are back. Will be holding fire til this outbreak passes over

[Vader]

Not their choices to remain in those countries. Flights coming back home were very hard to come by and very expensive. They all need help and it’s the government responsibility to bring our people home quickly and safely, no ?

I don't think it is the Government's responsibility at all.

[adahar]

I don't think it is the Government's responsibility at all.

Governments are not naturally occurring institutions, they are elected by a contract of indulgence with the people. They are paid by the people and therefore are accountable and responsible to the people.

If they institute rules and regulations for the common good which disadvantage some of its citizens they are duty bound to provide compensating assistance.

[Meng]

Governments are not naturally occurring institutions, they are elected by a contract of indulgence with the people. They are paid by the people and therefore are accountable and responsible to the people.

If they institute rules and regulations for the common good which disadvantage some of its citizens they are duty bound to provide compensating assistance.

Lol. You're saying that, "Governments are not naturally occurring institutions".. So is that why every country in the world has a government? If it's not naturally occurring then why is it everywhere? Like, "contract of indulgence"?! What does that even mean? Did you just randomly pick out some words from a dictionary and decided to use it?

Why should the government be responsible? If one chooses to leave the country during this pandemic and then all of a sudden found themselves unable to return, why should the government compensate them for their own choice?

A lot of people here want to travel but don't because of this pandemic so why should those few that do get to receive "compensating assistance". That's just selfish.

[dannyboy]

Lol. You're saying that, "Governments are not naturally occurring institutions".. So is that why every country in the world has a government? If it's not naturally occurring then why is it everywhere? Like, "contract of indulgence"?! What does that even mean? Did you just randomly pick out some words from a dictionary and decided to use it?

Why should the government be responsible? If one chooses to leave the country during this pandemic and then all of a sudden found themselves unable to return, why should the government compensate them for their own choice?

A lot of people here want to travel but don't because of this pandemic so why should those few that do get to receive "compensating assistance". That's just selfish.

Where can people travel too now, apart from. NZ?

[Meng]

Where can people travel too now, apart from. NZ?

No idea but people are obviously getting exemptions because our current situation comes from a driver who's ferrying arrivals spreading the new variant.

[CountryPunter]

No idea but people are obviously getting exemptions because our current situation comes from a driver who's ferrying arrivals spreading the new variant.

The driver was transporting, amongst others, flight crew from freight carrying planes.

Plenty of people still travelling. The likes of sporting teams.....ie our Olympic squad who are about to go to Japan. Professional athletes seem to get a travel exemption as no doubt do medical professionals who are assisting other countries.

Politicians, I'm sure would get a leave pass too.

I very much doubt too many general population will be taking overseas holidays any time soon. Plenty of Austalia to see unless state borders keep closing. Once the majority of our population are vaccinated then hopefully we have less state border closures.

[adahar]

Lol. You're saying that, "Governments are not naturally occurring institutions".. So is that why every country in the world has a government? If it's not naturally occurring then why is it everywhere? Like, "contract of indulgence"?! What does that even mean? Did you just randomly pick out some words from a dictionary and decided to use it?

Why should the government be responsible? If one chooses to leave the country during this pandemic and then all of a sudden found themselves unable to return, why should the government compensate them for their own choice?

A lot of people here want to travel but don't because of this pandemic so why should those few that do get to receive "compensating assistance". That's just selfish.

Thanks, you've just allowed me to get to my 50th post.

I'm sorry you fail to understand, perhaps the dictionary is better off on your reading list.

People had left before the borders were closed and subsequently found they were virtually stranded. They have every right to return. The fact that they can't due to some arbitrary limit imposed by their govt isn't their fault and shouldn't suffer an exponential loss. Those that do wish to travel must have an exemption and therefore are fully aware of the consequences.

[adahar]

Not forgetting all the Hollywood "celebrities" providing much needed work for our struggling entertainment industry (a pathetic attempt at cynicism).

[surething91]

Just as I'm getting the urge to go for a RnT again the covid restrictions are back. Will be holding fire til this outbreak passes over
See you in 1month then hehe

[Meng]

Thanks, you've just allowed me to get to my 50th post.

I'm sorry you fail to understand, perhaps the dictionary is better off on your reading list.

People had left before the borders were closed and subsequently found they were virtually stranded. They have every right to return. The fact that they can't due to some arbitrary limit imposed by their govt isn't their fault and shouldn't suffer an exponential loss. Those that do wish to travel must have an exemption and therefore are fully aware of the consequences.


The borders were closed last year around March or April. Do you have some figures on anyone who's left the country before the closures last year and still stuck there? Anyone who
left after the border closures are owed nothing by the government as they knew the risk and cost but went anyway.

[quackm2002]

Where did you get this bullshit from and what do you mean by duty bound? Are you implying a legal obligation or are you expecting governments to act morally? If the former, that has already been tested in court by some fuckwit in India and found in favour of the government. If the latter, dream on.




Governments are not naturally occurring institutions, they are elected by a contract of indulgence with the people. They are paid by the people and therefore are accountable and responsible to the people.

If they institute rules and regulations for the common good which disadvantage some of its citizens they are duty bound to provide compensating assistance.

[GoldfishMan]

Governments are not naturally occurring institutions, they are elected by a contract of indulgence with the people. They are paid by the people and therefore are accountable and responsible to the people.

If they institute rules and regulations for the common good which disadvantage some of its citizens they are duty bound to provide compensating assistance.
Duty bound? No mate, more like public opinion bound. As in, if they do not reach out and help save some stranded Aussie cricketers in India, public opinion may turn against them and they might end up losing too many votes because of that. Or it could happen the other way around, they help the cricketers and end up earning the ire of the majority of the voting public because most people here don't want to import the virus. The government is just another political party, the only difference is they're currently in power, so they will do whatever it is they think will help them cling to power.

That's pretty much the only thing guiding them in situations like this. There's no law that says a government of a country must always help their own citizens get home.

[adahar]

The borders were closed last year around March or April. Do you have some figures on anyone who's left the country before the closures last year and still stuck there? Anyone who
left after the border closures are owed nothing by the government as they knew the risk and cost but went anyway.

No I don't know, apart from the person I mentioned earlier. But then I doubt anybody else knows either. Conversely it's unlikely that anybody knows the breakdown of those that chose to travel for enjoyment (supposedly not a good enough reason to gain exemption) or for compelling reasons so there's not enough data to mount an argument for or against.

[suka02]

No I don't know, apart from the person I mentioned earlier. But then I doubt anybody else knows either. Conversely it's unlikely that anybody knows the breakdown of those that chose to travel for enjoyment (supposedly not a good enough reason to gain exemption) or for compelling reasons so there's not enough data to mount an argument for or against.

Yes, they may get exemption but they should take the consequences for the unexpected. That is why border is closed. People had plenty of time since early last year to comeback, why cant they get back? No money? how did they manage to stay longer there? how would they pay for their rent/mortgages back here? I really can’t understand those people who still travels at least buy return tickets and you’re set but know that is only for emergency situation and come back asap not staying there for vacation.

[adahar]

Yes, they may get exemption but they should take the consequences for the unexpected. That is why border is closed. People had plenty of time since early last year to comeback, why cant they get back? No money? how did they manage to stay longer there? how would they pay for their rent/mortgages back here? I really can’t understand those people who still travels at least buy return tickets and you’re set but know that is only for emergency situation and come back asap not staying there for vacation.

I suggest you Google the subject. There are plenty of reports and examples from various news organisations, even Senate enquiries into it. Not everything is as simple as you like to make out.

[scrim57]

Will shops stay open tomorrow?

[Meng]

I suggest you Google the subject. There are plenty of reports and examples from various news organisations, even Senate enquiries into it. Not everything is as simple as you like to make out.
Either way. Borders are still closed. The government has not compensated anyone who's stuck overseas (nor do I think they should) and the overall sentiment of the population is that the government is doing a great job for not letting people especially in areas with the highly infectious variants into Australia.

So your opinion means nothing.

Also on a side note so you can write normally. Thank goodness. Was that original post just you trying to sound smart by using some words you picked out of a dictionary?

[adahar]

Either way. Borders are still closed. The government has not compensated anyone who's stuck overseas (nor do I think they should) and the overall sentiment of the population is that the government is doing a great job for not letting people especially in areas with the highly infectious variants into Australia.

So your opinion means nothing.

Also on a side note so you can write normally. Thank goodness. Was that original post just you trying to sound smart by using some words you picked out of a dictionary?

To be accurate I never suggested "compensation", if anything they should be offered assistance, which is a different thing. It was all in the context of responsibility towards it's citizens.

You're correct in saying my opinion means nothing, and in the spirit of equality yours is equally valueless.

[Awqjoq]

See you in 1month then hehe

The big lockdown last year saved me a ton of money, might be the same this time round!

[Rand8144]

The big lockdown last year saved me a ton of money, might be the same this time round!

Haha I just started soooo it's been good while it lasted haha.

[someguy88]

I haven't seen figures, but I know of people that have had multiple return flights months apart cancelled on them.
So not as though they willingly chose to stay overseas, the second covid got big flight schedules were all chopped and changed.

Imagine being a health worker and the second something goes wrong the community you're serving wants your head on the chopping block.
If it was me I'd probably just want to quit.

Great to see fellow Australians are out to blame everyone and cut you loose the second its not convienient for them.

I think I read earlier in this thread about people with casual work being reluctant to get tested as it means they're out of pocket for two weeks work.
It's a valid point. A property investor or professional could quarintene for 2 weeks with little to no financial impact, however I wouldn't be surprised if that property investor would expect that casual worker to do the right thing, get tested, quarintene for 2 but still expect them to (somehow work harder) and still pay full rent.

Whats the incentive to do the right thing, even if they do chances are they'll get there movements leaked on the media and they'll be public enemy no. 1 and be two weeks behind in rent. it's a a loose loose.

If this outbreak gets bigger, probably a good approach to capture a lot of unknow/undetected cases could be to offer automatic two/three week support payments when you test positive.
This could go a long way to capture any possible unknown cases. Obviously there would need to be some global cap, but hopefully it would prevent such a big out break.

[quackm2002]

Are you still trying to process what a “contract of indulgence” is? Don’t you realise that using big words and terms creates a perception of being more learned?


Either way. Borders are still closed. The government has not compensated anyone who's stuck overseas (nor do I think they should) and the overall sentiment of the population is that the government is doing a great job for not letting people especially in areas with the highly infectious variants into Australia.

So your opinion means nothing.

Also on a side note so you can write normally. Thank goodness. Was that original post just you trying to sound smart by using some words you picked out of a dictionary?

[cuteguy]

I wonder whether Gladys will take firm action and lockdown the Bondi area. It was done to the Northern Beaches.

[Meng]

Are you still trying to process what a “contract of indulgence” is? Don’t you realise that using big words and terms creates a perception of being more learned?

Mate I hate that sort of pretentiousness. You can also tell when people do this because some of the ways the words are phrased, feel like they specifically go out of their way to insert some of that shit in the sentence.

You can sound "learned" without sounding like a pretentious tool. In fact when someone does that I get the opposite impression of said person.

[One23Four]

Unknown source infected cases keep rising in addition to the number of confirmed cases in double digits for 3 days in a row.
Medical experts have advised a lockdown for Sydney for a few days at least but the Premier, the Health Minister and Chief Medical Officer won’t do so because all three are fully vaccinated and not at risk themselves. The Minister of Agriculture (not yet vaccinated as a young guy) got infected just dining in Paddington without physical contact with anyone. This Delta variant is airborne and highly efficient in transmission indoor inside a room or even a restaurant with much bigger space. Brothers who have not yet been fully vaccinated should think twice before punting now at the height of the outbreak. Waiting for a few days to allow the outbreak to settle down maybe a better risk management approach to take. One infected visiting a brothel infecting a girl will mean cast-atrophic result for not only all brothers who visited the same girl but maybe the entire brothel including all girls and staff.

As the Premier has said, the most scary time in the pandemic because of this highly contagious and airborne Delta variant.

[quackm2002]

I think a lot of us feel the same way. As I noted earlier, what is this bullshit?! What the fuck is a contract of indulgence?


Mate I hate that sort of pretentiousness. You can also tell when people do this because some of the ways the words are phrased, feel like they specifically go out of their way to insert some of that shit in the sentence.

You can sound "learned" without sounding like a pretentious tool. In fact when someone does that I get the opposite impression of said person.

[smn5746]

I wonder whether Gladys will take firm action and lockdown the Bondi area. It was done to the Northern Beaches.

To late it’s already out of Bondi, she be locking down the whole Sydney if she does

[One23Four]

Yeah, should lockdown Syd for a few days. As I said in my reply above, very risky to punt at the height of an outbreak with unknown source cases growing for this highly contagious airborne Delta variant. Let’s see what the numbers in the next two days before planning your next punt maybe a conservative approach. The girls won’t disappear in 2 days.

[CharlieM]

Unknown source infected cases keep rising in addition to the number of confirmed cases in double digits for 3 days in a row.
Medical experts have advised a lockdown for Sydney for a few days at least but the Premier, the Health Minister and Chief Medical Officer won’t do so because all three are fully vaccinated and not at risk themselves. The Minister of Agriculture (not yet vaccinated as a young guy) got infected just dining in Paddington without physical contact with anyone. This Delta variant is airborne and highly efficient in transmission indoor inside a room or even a restaurant with much bigger space. Brothers who have not yet been fully vaccinated should think twice before punting now at the height of the outbreak. Waiting for a few days to allow the outbreak to settle down maybe a better risk management approach to take. One infected visiting a brothel infecting a girl will mean cast-atrophic result for not only all brothers who visited the same girl but maybe the entire brothel including all girls and staff.

As the Premier has said, the most scary time in the pandemic because of this highly contagious and airborne Delta variant.

You make a heap of sense...

[someguy88]

If there's still unknown cases getting around, I doubt a few days would be enough, probably a week or so to make sure things are stable/reducing and not just making the rounds unknowingly.

Alternatively, to ensure contract tracing for brothels, would be expensive, but they'd need a front, a QR code front. When you check in, its actually a check in for say a cafe they could own in the near vicinity.
That way as far as checking in/hot spots and listing your every whereabouts to NSW health is concerned, we were all just at a cafe..... coincidentally all for 1hr each.

[Climax598]

If there's still unknown cases getting around, I doubt a few days would be enough, probably a week or so to make sure things are stable/reducing and not just making the rounds unknowingly.

Alternatively, to ensure contract tracing for brothels, would be expensive, but they'd need a front, a QR code front. When you check in, its actually a check in for say a cafe they could own in the near vicinity.
That way as far as checking in/hot spots and listing your every whereabouts to NSW health is concerned, we were all just at a cafe..... coincidentally all for 1hr each.
Lol a Cafe open at weird hour like 1am.

[Climax598]

Unknown source infected cases keep rising in addition to the number of confirmed cases in double digits for 3 days in a row.
Medical experts have advised a lockdown for Sydney for a few days at least but the Premier, the Health Minister and Chief Medical Officer won’t do so because all three are fully vaccinated and not at risk themselves. The Minister of Agriculture (not yet vaccinated as a young guy) got infected just dining in Paddington without physical contact with anyone. This Delta variant is airborne and highly efficient in transmission indoor inside a room or even a restaurant with much bigger space. Brothers who have not yet been fully vaccinated should think twice before punting now at the height of the outbreak. Waiting for a few days to allow the outbreak to settle down maybe a better risk management approach to take. One infected visiting a brothel infecting a girl will mean cast-atrophic result for not only all brothers who visited the same girl but maybe the entire brothel including all girls and staff.

As the Premier has said, the most scary time in the pandemic because of this highly contagious and airborne Delta variant.
Then why is still open!. Very strange if you think about it you can get it from cafe/hairdresser/myer but not from massage/sex parlour.

[Vader]

If there's still unknown cases getting around, I doubt a few days would be enough, probably a week or so to make sure things are stable/reducing and not just making the rounds unknowingly.

Alternatively, to ensure contract tracing for brothels, would be expensive, but they'd need a front, a QR code front. When you check in, its actually a check in for say a cafe they could own in the near vicinity.
That way as far as checking in/hot spots and listing your every whereabouts to NSW health is concerned, we were all just at a cafe..... coincidentally all for 1hr each.

I can't see why you say it would be more expensive for contact tracing for brothels. Anyway it's the ones that don't log in that makes it harder for contact tracers and makes outbreaks go for longer.

[someguy88]

Well you don't have to go at 1 am.

But hey, could be a new market, aren't cafes in Asian countries open till quite late?

[someguy88]

I can't see why you say it would be more expensive for contact tracing for brothels. Anyway it's the ones that don't log in that makes it harder for contact tracers and makes outbreaks go for longer.

Sorry, I meant it would be more expensive for the brothel, to open a cafe as a front. To help ensure they keep punters coming in who would otherwise not go if they had to check in to a brothel.
I suppose they'd have to way up cost of renting a shop for a cafe vs lost revenue from punters not coming in.

[Vader]

Sorry, I meant it would be more expensive for the brothel, to open a cafe as a front. To help ensure they keep punters coming in who would otherwise not go if they had to check in to a brothel.
I suppose they'd have to way up cost of renting a shop for a cafe vs lost revenue from punters not coming in.

So you think it would be smart for a brothel to open a cafe as a front for their QR code to defy public health orders? What planet are you from?

[One23Four]

Then why is still open!. Very strange if you think about it you can get it from cafe/hairdresser/myer but not from massage/sex parlour.


Brothel and Massage Parlour still open is the decision of the Premier, Health Minister and the Chief Medical Officer all fully vaccinated so not at risk. I am in favor of a week lockdown which means Brothel and Massage will be closed for a week. My reply is asking brothers who have not yet been fully vaccinated to think twice before punting in the next few days. Risk management tells us not to take undue risk at the height of an outbreak. If you read the news, the Sydney outbreak is spreading to Melbourne now via a Melbourne man visiting his Sydney daughter going back to Melbourne during the last weekend.

[Rand8144]

Brothel and Massage Parlour still open is the decision of the Premier, Health Minister and the Chief Medical Officer all fully vaccinated so not at risk. I am in favor of a week lockdown which means Brothel and Massage will be closed for a week. My reply is asking brothers who have not yet been fully vaccinated to think twice before punting in the next few days. Risk management tells us not to take undue risk at the height of an outbreak. If you read the news, the Sydney outbreak is spreading to Melbourne now via a Melbourne man visiting his Sydney daughter going back to Melbourne during the last weekend.

i told my regular im not going tomorrow. hard to do but until covid dies down here its not worth the risk for all of us.

[GoldfishMan]

All this contact tracing will only work if people who get sick from it come forward to get tested. I still think that there's a cohort out there that may have been infected but are resisting the directive to get tested. I think there have been people like this even before this outbreak. They keep detecting virus fragments in sewage for large swathes of suburbs, sound the alarm for people in those areas to get tested, but the next thing you know that news is old news and never heard of again.

Also, don't forget that the limo guy who started all this was found out to have been infected only because he's mandated to get tested regularly due to his line of work, missed a couple of days, then was forced to get tested. If it was up to him, would he have voluntarily done it, even if he got sick? I don't think so.

Bottom line is, I don't buy that crap the Gov keeps peddling, that we're "safe" because all the current infections are from previously known ones, simply because I don't think they're looking hard enough.

[Rogeryou]

i told my regular im not going tomorrow. hard to do but until covid dies down here its not worth the risk for all of us.

I think we all need to stock up as many FS sessions as possible before lock down, just like the cunts that horde toilet paper.
I did one today have one lined up for Sunday might do a blow and go tomorrow night.
Have my regular on Wednesday next week. So Gladys if you are reading this hold off till Wednesday.
Thank god during lockdown I have a regular private to get me through 🤗

[Rand8144]

I think we all need to stock up as many FS sessions as possible before lock down, just like the cunts that horde toilet paper.
I did one today have one lined up for Sunday might do a blow and go tomorrow night.
Have my regular on Wednesday next week. So Gladys if you are reading this hold off till Wednesday.
Thank god during lockdown I have a regular private to get me through 🤗

Haha damn bro go for it. Gotta find me a good private.

[adahar]

All this contact tracing will only work if people who get sick from it come forward to get tested. I still think that there's a cohort out there that may have been infected but are resisting the directive to get tested. I think there have been people like this even before this outbreak. They keep detecting virus fragments in sewage for large swathes of suburbs, sound the alarm for people in those areas to get tested, but the next thing you know that news is old news and never heard of again.

Also, don't forget that the limo guy who started all this was found out to have been infected only because he's mandated to get tested regularly due to his line of work, missed a couple of days, then was forced to get tested. If it was up to him, would he have voluntarily done it, even if he got sick? I don't think so.

Bottom line is, I don't buy that crap the Gov keeps peddling, that we're "safe" because all the current infections are from previously known ones, simply because I don't think they're looking hard enough.

Just to take this theory a little further.

If we are "all" vaccinated (insomuch as every person than wants it gets it) and herd immunity is achieved will there still be testing and quarantine?

If the answer is yes, then there will be little incentive for people to submit and risk being off work/business for up to 14 days! What would be the point? After all, everybody is protected aren't they! If the answer is no, then the borders open up.

I suspect the govt is wary of getting to that point as it risks the virus returning in a big way with no where else to go.

[Climax598]

Brothel and Massage Parlour still open is the decision of the Premier, Health Minister and the Chief Medical Officer all fully vaccinated so not at risk. I am in favor of a week lockdown which means Brothel and Massage will be closed for a week. My reply is asking brothers who have not yet been fully vaccinated to think twice before punting in the next few days. Risk management tells us not to take undue risk at the height of an outbreak. If you read the news, the Sydney outbreak is spreading to Melbourne now via a Melbourne man visiting his Sydney daughter going back to Melbourne during the last weekend.
I know some ml/wl are not vaccinated at all. Even if you are fully vaccinated is Not a guaranteed you would not get covid, only you might not end up in hospital. With this Delta even Pfizer is only 88% effective with AstraZenica is only 66% effective.

Update
According to Israel news report the Delta variant is infecting vaccinated people as many as 50% of cases but they are less severe - Business Inside

[One23Four]

The exposure sites have been updated 3 times in the last few hours in NSW Health websites with numerous venues all over Sydney including inner city included. Good luck to those brothers who want to stock up and punt more in the next few days before a possible lockdown. If one guy is positive then the room will become an “infectious place” for all brothers using the same room afterwards even if the lady is spared from infection based on the highly infectious nature of this Delta Variant. The Bondi Westfield, the hair/ beauty salon, the cafe and the restaurant demonstrate how efficient is this airborne Delta Variant transmission. Safety punting and good luck to all.

[Rand8144]

The exposure sites have been updated 3 times in the last few hours in NSW Health websites with numerous venues all over Sydney including inner city included. Good luck to those brothers who want to stock up and punt more in the next few days before a possible lockdown. If one guy is positive then the room will become an “infectious place” for all brothers using the same room afterwards even if the lady is spared from infection based on the highly infectious nature of this Delta Variant. The Bondi Westfield, the hair/ beauty salon, the cafe and the restaurant demonstrate how efficient is this airborne Delta Variant transmission. Safety punting and good luck to all.

Wow just checked the list. Might as well lockdown at this point. It's reaching far east to west and north to south now. Not concentrated just in Bondi anymore

[DireStraits]

We can only hope Gladys reads this thread…

[AJ84]

I have allergy and when i sneeze in a room.. it's super awkward and when you hold it in, the sneeze is even louder when it comes out.

[One23Four]

I know some ml/wl are not vaccinated at all. Even if you are fully vaccinated is Not a guaranteed you would not get covid, only you might not end up in hospital. With this Delta even Pfizer is only 88% effective with AstraZenica is only 66% effective.

Update
According to Israel news report the Delta variant is infecting vaccinated people as many as 50% of cases but they are less severe - Business Inside


Yeah, you are absolutely right. I believe 99.99% of the WL and ML are not vaccinated as they are below 40 (though many advertised as 20s but 10 years older at least) and sex industry is not in the priority lists. Even if the WL and ML is fully vaccinated and herself partially protected, she can act as “agent” to transmit the virus to customers according to Medical Experts.

[Rand8144]

We can only hope Gladys reads this thread…

Looks like city of Sydney is going in lockdown for a week. Alot of our favourite ML and WL will be home too.

[One23Four]

I hope brothers and girls and City shops have read the announcements by The Premier just now that Sydney City is in lockdown and all brothers and girls living or working in city areas should stay at home ie go home now. The shops in the city areas including wooloomoloo, Surry hills, Redfern and Sydney CBD should close temporarily to comply with the Health Orders until they are abandoned.

I hope my interpretation is correct.

[One23Four]

This is a very serious matter for the benefits of the Sex Industry to move forward during the Covid era. If an outbreak occurs in a brothel in the Sydney City areas which can be traced to a brother or girl not complying the above Health Order, both the girl, the brother and the shop will be heavily fined and maybe jailed. The contact tracer will definitely refer the case to the Police for investigation.

For the benefits of all brothers, girls and shops, I guess everybody should take it seriously and comply. Health and spreading a serious illness are not any human being will want. Just temporarily stopping an entertainment or business for a few days in order to move forward is no big deal

[AHLUNGOR]

Let’s just get on the Parramatta Road and head out West then ?

[Discotech]

This is a very serious matter for the benefits of the Sex Industry to move forward during the Covid era. If an outbreak occurs in a brothel in the Sydney City areas which can be traced to a brother or girl not complying the above Health Order, both the girl, the brother and the shop will be heavily fined and maybe jailed. The contact tracer will definitely refer the case to the Police for investigation.

For the benefits of all brothers, girls and shops, I guess everybody should take it seriously and comply. Health and spreading a serious illness are not any human being will want. Just temporarily stopping an entertainment or business for a few days in order to move forward is no big deal

I think you’ve been living under a rock as most of the city shops were operating secretly throughout lockdown and what happened there? Absolutely nothing.

[Climax598]

Let’s just get on the Parramatta Road and head out West then ?
This order is useless just like Melbourne having a few LGA shut down didn't work then the whole Melbourne was shut down for few weeks. People move in this city's.

[Climax598]

Let’s just get on the Parramatta Road and head out West then ?
Well 42G will be popular. See if Ginza girls move to 42G?

[DireStraits]

Well 42G will be popular. See if Ginza girls move to 42G?
Interesting… The rules state you can only leave home for 4 reasons, one of which is for work IF YOU CAN’T WORK FROM HOME. So say a WL lives in the city and the shops there are all closed, does that mean she’s good to travel to 42G to work..?

[One23Four]

I think you’ve been living under a rock as most of the city shops were operating secretly throughout lockdown and what happened there? Absolutely nothing.

I guess you are not updating your knowledge on this Covid virus so making this ignorant comment. This time we are dealing with the Delta Variant which at least 60% more contagious than the UK strain which in turn is much more contagious than the strain we had in March 2020. The Delta variant is more lethal too causing many deaths in India including young people.

Also we are talking about a one week closure of shop or lockdown instead of the over 3-month long lockdown and closure of shops in March 2020. Shops and girls might be difficult to survive such a long closure and need to operate secretly only to a restricted number of VIP customers who are willing to take the risk in private apartments. I guess shops and girls in the City can afford a week closure this time given that they have been operating openly in accordance with law since July 2020 for nearly one years.

Good luck to you as a VIP if the city shops and girls will still want your business operating for you during the pending one week lockdown starting midnight tonight.

[Isaidwtf]

The way i interpret this is you can go to work only if your job requires your physical presence which a ML/WL is required.

[DireStraits]

The way i interpret this is you can go to work only if your job requires your physical presence which a ML/WL is required.

Have they explicitly said brothels and massage parlours in those 4 LGAs must remain closed during this one week lockdown, or does that come under ‘common sense’?

[Meng]

Even if brothels stay open some girls will use this as a excuse to provide less service and charge the same rate.

[One23Four]

Read or listen Glady’s comments this morning “If you are in a business in those 4 LGA, unfortunately, unless you’re providing essential food and services - that is, takeaway food and services or grocery services of that nature - we don’t expect those businesses to remain open”. Also she specifically mentioned “That means Nightclubs and things of that nature won’t be open”

I guess it is beyond reasonable doubt that brothels and Rnt will not be offering essential services unless you can engage a lawyer good enough to argue successfully in Court that they are essential services. Please let me know his/her name if you have a lawyer capable to convince the Judge to interpret so.

The Health Orders to be released soon will make it clear I believe.

[aussiegaigin]

It doesn't come into effect until midnight, so rush down to your local shop NOW.

[aussiegaigin]

Have they explicitly said brothels and massage parlours in those 4 LGAs must remain closed during this one week lockdown, or does that come under ‘common sense’?

They have stated what services CAN operate, so if a place doesn't come within an approved category, common sense will tell you the answer.

Trouble is common sense is no longer taught in educational establishments, so everybody will attempt to carry on regardless.

[someguy88]

So you think it would be smart for a brothel to open a cafe as a front for their QR code to defy public health orders? What planet are you from?

It's not too hide people from being identified as close contacts, it's just so they can be identified with out being outed.
Instead of checking in at XXX brothel you'd check in as DDD cafe. If there's a positive case then everyone from DDD Cafe can be contacted quickly.
So its still serving the intention for the public health order.

[aussiegaigin]

Looks like city of Sydney is going in lockdown for a week. Alot of our favourite ML and WL will be home too.

Not just CoS, but several surrounding LGAs.

If you LIVE in a lockdown area, you can't travel outside that area.

[adahar]

From a cynics point of view it appears that massage shops and brothels are the safest place to be; not one has been listed as an exposure site. Perhaps they take a different approach?

The number of close and casual contacts must be getting up to many thousands now. Can it be that not one has punted in the last couple of weeks? Checking the member stats reveals 45,000 are members (allow half from Sydney). Given a population of 5,000,000 of which half would be ineligible that leaves 1 in 100 as potential punters.

Of course the alternative is that they don't check in.

[Rooster18]

I think the shops outside of these areas like your 42G and alike ML places will be doing a roaring trade this weekend and next week. Simple market conditions... Hopefully everyone safe safe as well.

[Vader]

It's not too hide people from being identified as close contacts, it's just so they can be identified with out being outed.
Instead of checking in at XXX brothel you'd check in as DDD cafe. If there's a positive case then everyone from DDD Cafe can be contacted quickly.
So its still serving the intention for the public health order.

They are not allowed to out you. Give me strength...

[Rand8144]

I think the shops outside of these areas like your 42G and alike ML places will be doing a roaring trade this weekend and next week. Simple market conditions... Hopefully everyone safe safe as well.

Good point. If gladesville becomes a hotspot this weekend we know why haha

[Raybo]

Please let me know his/her name if you have a lawyer capable to convince the Judge to interpret so..

Lets get Cleaver Greene on the case, he is a punter too!

https://www.abc.net.au/tv/rake/images/cleaver_greene.jpg

[GoldfishMan]

It doesn't come into effect until midnight, so rush down to your local shop NOW.
You're a champ! I swear when I first read the announcement it said 11:59am but you were right, it only takes effect at midnight tonight.
Thanks to your tip, I managed to get one in with my fave girl. Fantastic punt, felt like "apocalyptic" sex!
Thank you very much, kind sir!

[sukeong]

This is a very serious matter for the benefits of the Sex Industry to move forward during the Covid era. If an outbreak occurs in a brothel in the Sydney City areas which can be traced to a brother or girl not complying the above Health Order, both the girl, the brother and the shop will be heavily fined and maybe jailed. The contact tracer will definitely refer the case to the Police for investigation.

For the benefits of all brothers, girls and shops, I guess everybody should take it seriously and comply. Health and spreading a serious illness are not any human being will want. Just temporarily stopping an entertainment or business for a few days in order to move forward is no big deal

We are in middle of pandemic. Punting is way down the list for most of us, only horny selfish idiots are going to take the risk of exacerbating an outbreak.

[sukeong]

If there's still unknown cases getting around, I doubt a few days would be enough, probably a week or so to make sure things are stable/reducing and not just making the rounds unknowingly.

Alternatively, to ensure contract tracing for brothels, would be expensive, but they'd need a front, a QR code front. When you check in, its actually a check in for say a cafe they could own in the near vicinity.
That way as far as checking in/hot spots and listing your every whereabouts to NSW health is concerned, we were all just at a cafe..... coincidentally all for 1hr each.

It won't be enough. Especially with the highly transmissable delta variant. When we look at successful cases in Asia, especially mainland China, all proven methods have to be used. That is mass testing, fast reliable contact tracing, border control, quarantine, masking, social distancing, and mass vaccination to reach herd immunity.


Localized lock downs and inefficient contact tracing and hoping that it won't spread further,is like simply a hail Mary hoping for the best kind of desperate move.

[One23Four]

You're a champ! I swear when I first read the announcement it said 11:59am but you were right, it only takes effect at midnight tonight.
Thanks to your tip, I managed to get one in with my fave girl. Fantastic punt, felt like "apocalyptic" sex!
Thank you very much, kind sir!


I guess it was your anticipation that it is “apocalyptic sex” that made the punt so wonderful. Do another one before midnight tonight, it will be even more wonderful but don’t make it a real “apocalyptic sex” for you and the girl. 7 days’ lockdown without punting is so miserable for brothers living in the city areas, no wonder the city brothels are doing well even in Covid.

[Sentinels]

well I guess lockdown came at a good time somewhat for us gamers at least, was planning on going to no5 tomorrow but don't want to risk it so I guess ill spend the money on some games from steam sales.

[boater]

Have they explicitly said brothels and massage parlours in those 4 LGAs must remain closed during this one week lockdown, or does that come under ‘common sense’?
See, https://gazette.legislation.nsw.gov.au/so/download.w3p?id=Gazette_2021_2021-281.pdf
page 6

15F Directions of Minister concerning closure of certain premises(1) The Minister directs that the following must not be open to members of thepublic except as provided in this clause—
...
(m) sex services premises,
(n) sex on premises venues,
...

[Rogeryou]

You're a champ! I swear when I first read the announcement it said 11:59am but you were right, it only takes effect at midnight tonight.
Thanks to your tip, I managed to get one in with my fave girl. Fantastic punt, felt like "apocalyptic" sex!
Thank you very much, kind sir!
Well done broo 👉👌 I smashed one out yesterday

[DireStraits]

See https://gazette.legislation.nsw.gov.au/so/download.w3p?id=Gazette_2021_2021-281.pdf
page 6

15F Directions of Minister concerning closure of certain premises(1) The Minister directs that the following must not be open to members of thepublic except as provided in this clause—
...
(m) sex services premises,
(n) sex on premises venues,
...
Thanks Boater, good to see it in black and white.

[boater]

and it looks like Brothels and other "Intimate Service" venues will be open Dec 1st using the 4sqm rule.
No requirement for vax

[tpol]

Guys here aren't scared of the Vax, they're more scared of the qr code.but that might go on 1st Dec too

[AHLUNGOR]

I think whether you are vaccinated or not, masks wearing is still the best minimum protection everyone should continue. By all accounts, if you are vaccinated your chance of getting the infection would be reduced ? But the most important benefit is that you won’t be getting very sick like those unvaccinated and your chance of dying is drastically reduced. That’s the deal, take it or leave it, it’s your life and the health and safety of your family and loved ones around you.

But I do hope the government will continue the masks mandate at least in all public transport and indoor venues so that the virus could not run rampant.

Just my two cents.

Good luck to us all by 1 December.

Cheers



Ps. Mandatory check in with QR Code in All shops ? That’s a totally different beast !

[tpol]

Don't know why it wasn't such a big issue but in the original sars transmission via surface was a big thing.

So now with delta, wesr a mask.get a bbj,ML has delta and transfers it to your cock. Afterwards you take a pee and and transfer the covid to your hand. Then you touch your eyes

[tpol]

OK which one if you caused this?

https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/news/qld-venue-alerts-multiple-massage-parlours-listed-as-exposure-sites/news-story/6adbfc22b6707ad5e06d0f216f7944b9

[tpol]

Qld has been quite lucky how their cases don't spread.

[TheMaestro]

I think QLD will be next!

[tpol]

I think QLD will be next!
Yeah me too. My only explanation is that the weather is warmer and they don't have high testing rates

[wilisno]

Yeah me too. My only explanation is that the weather is warmer and they don't have high testing rates

Warm weather doesn’t help at all, look at Vietnam !

[tpol]

True. Vic and nz went hard and they can't seem to stop the spread but qld, it doesnt spread there. Maybe u need a certain iq to get infected

[GoldfishMan]

True. Vic and nz went hard and they can't seem to stop the spread but qld, it doesnt spread there. Maybe u need a certain iq to get infected
I reckon it's all about population density and how amenable the state Govts are to the development of dwellings. Is it surprising that the 2 states with the highest land values in Australia are also the 2 hardest hit?
The pop density per SQM in VIC is 26, NSW is around 9, QLD is down at 3. However, these numbers don't paint the real picture. Need to consider how concentrated the population is around certain areas.
All that land value speculation has brought us to this situation, I guess.

[rooter]

Another factor is the different demographics regarding density and ethnicity in Sydney/Melbourne compared to Brisbane, Adelaide, Perth, Hobart.

[AHLUNGOR]

Another factor is the different demographics regarding density and ethnicity in Sydney/Melbourne compared to Brisbane, Adelaide, Perth, Hobart.


Plus 1 here, definitely had more to do with the ethnic groups ? Large family and religious gatherings ?

[tpol]

The issue this time around was it ripped through 20 to 39s who weren't all in the vaccination range and were still working like construction, delivery, retail and they all brought it home and they missed with other family members

[studsg]

True. Vic and nz went hard and they can't seem to stop the spread but qld, it doesnt spread there. Maybe u need a certain iq to get infected

Donald Trump says his IQ is higher than Sleepy Joe.... maybe that's why he got it ? :shout:

[studsg]

Another factor is the different demographics regarding density and ethnicity in Sydney/Melbourne compared to Brisbane, Adelaide, Perth, Hobart.

Agree with the density factor. in both Melb and Sydney, many of those clusters are either in apartment blocks or in family homes where large extended family live together or gather together daily for their meals.

That's why everyone is moving out to the burbs, look at property prices in the rural areas have more than doubled.

[GoldfishMan]

Agree with the density factor. in both Melb and Sydney, many of those clusters are either in apartment blocks or in family homes where large extended family live together or gather together daily for their meals.

That's why everyone is moving out to the burbs, look at property prices in the rural areas have more than doubled.
This is true. People are just using all the extra liquidity to buy themselves out of "trouble". Phil Lowe with his PhD in Optimistic Thinking was hoping all the extra liquidity created by extra low interest rates woulda made people put money in productive assets like manufacturing companies etc to drive the econony, but nooo, it all went to bubbly property asset bubbles and the likes. Tough luck, looks like Optimistic Thinking wasn't very helpful after all!
Well, let's see how this pans out. Human beings are social animals, who wants to be a recluse if they don't have to be one?

The RBA keeps saying "bubbles are not our problem, we just focus on the immediate economy"... Well, if something big enough to wipe out the entire financial stability of the thing they're "in charge" of comes along, surely they would recognise that eventually something that wasn't their problem would become their problem? Maybe instead of a PhD, he just needs a better pair of glasses!

[Ziggurat]

True. Vic and nz went hard and they can't seem to stop the spread but qld, it doesnt spread there. Maybe u need a certain iq to get infected

Ha ha. By contrast the ACT has reached 97% first doses for all over 12s. They will be a great test case for a dream run post opening up. Just goes to show the difference an educated rational community can make. Compare that with the US.

[Ziggurat]

The doctors and epidemiologists are saying that everyone is going to get covid-19. "It is just a matter of time" they are saying. I just read it in today's Australian Financial Review.

That means you reading this now are going to get it. Yes, you.

And me.

What do you think about that?

I'm vaxxed, sure, but not looking forward to the dice roll of our individual way of responding to it.

[Vader]

The doctors and epidemiologists are saying that everyone is going to get covid-19. "It is just a matter of time" they are saying. I just read it in today's Australian Financial Review.

That means you reading this now are going to get it. Yes, you.

And me.

What do you think about that?

I'm vaxxed, sure, but not looking forward to the dice roll of our individual way of responding to it.

That has been common knowledge for ages scoop. The whole idea of vaccinations is so you don't end up in hospital. Lockdowns etc is to slow the spread and to keep the hospitals from being over run. There will be a huge increase of cases in the next few weeks, hopefully the hospitals won't be over run and then cases will drop again.

[Climax598]

The doctors and epidemiologists are saying that everyone is going to get covid-19. "It is just a matter of time" they are saying. I just read it in today's Australian Financial Review.

That means you reading this now are going to get it. Yes, you.

And me.

What do you think about that?

I'm vaxxed, sure, but not looking forward to the dice roll of our individual way of responding to it.
Then in the end is like a common flu we have every year but we are only hoping it turn out that way. If this covid is only get everyone some fever, cough, sneezing and not going to hospital and many dies the government wouldn't care just ask people to take some aspin.

[Ziggurat]

That has been common knowledge for ages scoop.

Well it wasn't obvious to me, and I don't think the fact that everyone is going to get covid-19 was obvious to many others either. Put your hand up if you didn't know this astonishing fact within the mountains of data we've been deluged in. I think it is far from common knowledge. The Spanish Flu, the last great pandemic, was deadlier, but far from everyone caught it. It was more like 5% from vague memory. This time around, everyone is going to catch covid. This is unprecedented, and it isn't me saying it, it is the medical experts.

[spir55]

the american encyclopedia of medicine (1984) had a description of the corona virus.

[tpol]

Well it wasn't obvious to me, and I don't think the fact that everyone is going to get covid-19 was obvious to many others either. Put your hand up if you didn't know this astonishing fact within the mountains of data we've been deluged in. I think it is far from common knowledge. The Spanish Flu, the last great pandemic, was deadlier, but far from everyone caught it. It was more like 5% from vague memory. This time around, everyone is going to catch covid. This is unprecedented, and it isn't me saying it, it is the medical experts.
It was quite obvious.

If double vaxxed ppl can get covid and double vaxxed ppl have already died, it is inevitable we'll all get it unless you stay isolated

And when the international borders open and a new strain slips through no one will know until ppl get infected.

Look at the mutated new delta case that just came into the local community.

We don't know where it came from

We didn't even know who the international traveller was who brought it in and how it got into the community

[dotcumdotinyou]

delta was the indian varient of covid, it got into Sydney from air crew of a freight flight and was spread initially around the eastern suburbs by the limo driver who was unvaccinated

[tpol]

delta was the indian varient of covid, it got into Sydney from air crew of a freight flight and was spread initially around the eastern suburbs by the limo driver who was unvaccinated

Dude, there is a newer delta variant... not the original one from india

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HK63uBsZjw

[tpol]

delta was the indian varient of covid, it got into Sydney from air crew of a freight flight and was spread initially around the eastern suburbs by the limo driver who was unvaccinated

Dude, there is a newer delta variant... not the original one from india.

They don't know how it got into the community.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HK63uBsZjw

[GoldfishMan]

Well it wasn't obvious to me, and I don't think the fact that everyone is going to get covid-19 was obvious to many others either. Put your hand up if you didn't know this astonishing fact within the mountains of data we've been deluged in. I think it is far from common knowledge. The Spanish Flu, the last great pandemic, was deadlier, but far from everyone caught it. It was more like 5% from vague memory. This time around, everyone is going to catch covid. This is unprecedented, and it isn't me saying it, it is the medical experts.
Chin up, bro, it's not all doom and gloom. There's every chance that over time, COVID will evolve / mutate into a much less lethal variant. If that were to happen, such a variant would gain dominance because it would be able to keep the hosts alive and continue to spread much easier than a lethal one.
Maybe it's already started happening. The Delta variant itself appears to be less lethal than the original variant even though it is more transmissible.

[Ziggurat]

I don't understand, and it is never explained, how "asymptomatic" covid is possible. btw, how the fuck can we be two years into this and there are still basic things that have never been explained? Covid is a coronavirus, so is the common cold. Has anyone in the history of the universe had an "unsymptomatic" common cold? No! You either have a cold or you don't. So is the flu. You either have the flu or you don't. That is it. I fail to see how having loads of covid-19 virus in your body can result in no symptoms at all. Get a bit of dirt in a scratch for example and it will get really inflamed. Yet we are expected to believe that a body full of foreign virus causes nothing at all.:grimace: I don't fucking believe it. More relevantly the human immune response doesn't believe it either.

[tpol]

Mate, just do some reading. It's actually interesting

[boater]

Well, turns out NSW Brothels can reopen at 80%
Just noticed "Sex services premises" (Brothels etc) in NSW may reopen at 80%, it is "sex on premises" venues (Swingers clubs) that have to wait till Dec 1st


https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/easing-covid-19-restrictions/80-percent


https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/easing-covid-19-restrictions/opening-in-dec


Definitions:
https://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/development-control-plans/adult-entertainment-sex-industry-premises-dcp-2006


Snips from 80%, Dec 1st and defs
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBdMKhHakAEJblb?format=png&name=small
https://forums.punterplanet.com/uploads/monthly_2021_10/image.png.986ae8ff420466cd96593038adeb50c8.png
https://forums.punterplanet.com/uploads/monthly_2021_10/image.png.24d60d6e699ad04c618e134ff302edae.png

[AHLUNGOR]

NSW has overtaken Victoria (1,622) today with 1,742 new cases recorded overnight.

[cuteguy]

NSW has overtaken Victoria (1,622) today with 1,742 new cases recorded overnight.

Let's not create any more fear and panic. The latest 'moronic' variant has only mild symptoms. Covid19 is here to stay and will never be eliminated thanks to Dr Fauci and his gain a function research. We just need to live with it and get back to normality.

[avnyyy]

I don’t see NSW entering lockdown again, unless Omnicron leads to a lot of cases resulting in hospitalization. For the majority of us who are vaxxed, I’d say we’d be quite likely to contract it anyway - and we’ll just experience it and move on.

The cost of lockdown again is far too much for the govt to want to do that again...


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[AHLUNGOR]

I don’t see NSW entering lockdown again, unless Omnicron leads to a lot of cases resulting in hospitalization. For the majority of us who are vaxxed, I’d say we’d be quite likely to contract it anyway - and we’ll just experience it and move on.

The cost of lockdown again is far too much for the govt to want to do that again...


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No Government is gonna to take the risk of another lockdown when Xmas is just around the corner. They call this risk assessment! Especially when you now have an ex Treasurer as Premier.

Let people live and spend ! They decided.

If you are infected, so be it, you should have been all fully vaccinated by now !

Let’s see whether we are still the lucky country in a months time.

Stay safe everyone.

Cheers

[AHLUNGOR]

Least of your concern is an Asian from overseas as their government processes and procedures are strict and people are compliant in contrast to white Aussies that protest against vaccination and the many of non compliant local citizens, on top of that the numerous amount of disobedience shown to disregard public health orders and getting arrested by police.

Look at Hong Kong, virtually zero local transmission in months and still in closed border with China and Macau !

Can you imagine if they got like a 100 cases a day.

Most of the world are now actually living with Covid, (including Australia) just see who can manage it better with the least human cost ?